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Post #81 · Posted at 2018-12-10 07:28:03am 5.3 years ago

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For the most part, yes. While it's not terribly difficult to do if you have the speed, I don't see people who are just clearing level 12s to have a good time with a 61-note 16th stream at 130.. You also start on the wrong foot if you don't switch after the Freeze Arrows prior to that ending stream.
The ending stream is stepped identically to Drop Out Heavy, which is a 13. The rest of Drop Out Heavy is significantly harder than the rest of Drop Out FNSMM, hence the rating difference. Those two songs having the same rating in 7th Mix was one thing, but they should not be rated the same on the modern scale. Just my two cents.
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Post #82 · Posted at 2018-12-10 03:01:15pm 5.3 years ago

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Thank you for your two cents, n00b_saib0t. You make a good argument. Happy

What n00b_saib0t mentioned may very well be the reason a number of users suggested that the original DROP OUT S-Heavy should have been rated 14 instead (myself not included). On top of the ending stream, the original DROP OUT chart also throws in three streams of quarter note jumps as well as more bursts before the long stream, one of which is a crossover. These additions make the original stand out from the remix, and perhaps it is fair to argue that these additional hurdles in the original warrant a one-level difference between the two charts. However, I did personally feel that DROP OUT S-Heavy does pale out when compared to existing 14s. Perhaps boosting the song speed by 10-20 BPM or adding 10 seconds to the song length (with sustained difficulty) will definitely put it up there.

In light of this, I will maintain that the ending alone in the remix chart would suffice for the remix to also be at level 13, as this ending can cause level 12 players to seriously suffer (even when starting from a full gauge), as there aren't any charts at that level that I could think of that contain such a sustained stream at that speed. It may be easy as a 13, but I would not suggest it to players who cap out at 12 on single. There are other instances I could think of where there's clearly a Chart B harder than Chart A but are given the same difficulty rating because one part fully justifies the difficulty as the level below will have too much trouble with it (e.g. Amalgamation S-Challenge vs. The legend of MAX S-Heavy, Healing-D-Vision S-Challenge vs. Pluto Relinquish S-Challenge, etc.).
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Post #83 · Posted at 2018-12-10 07:00:16pm 5.3 years ago

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There are definitely charts of varying difficulty with the same rating. My thing with Drop Out and FNSMM is that Drop Out has it's difficulty all the way through. FNSMM has a bit of a bait and switch with the ending, going from what I would say is about a 7 on the old scale or a 10 on the new scale to that ending. And yes, the ending will trip someone up who can't do it, but I can't say that there is any real difficulty with the rest of the song for me personally to say it should be a 13. 12 is still equivalent to a 9 on the old scale, I feel like the rating is appropriate, not like playing on a 4th Mix machine and seeing the original Drop Out as an 8 lol.

As for Healing-D-Vision Oni, that's a trickier one to talk about. Before you get to the cross over string it's really not that much harder than the Heavy chart. That ending is ridiculous enough that Konami rated it a good 4 difficulties higher than it would have been otherwise. There also isn't a song with an identical ending to HDVO for us to compare to like we can with the Drop Outs.

This is just my experience and what I've seen, but I've seen people who can pass Drop Out no problem panic when they see the ending to FNSMM, and they just start stomping and hoping for the best. Trying to convince some people that FNSMM with a x2 speed modifier is gonna be laid out exactly the same as Drop Out can be pretty difficult, some people understand how to play but they don't understand that 16ths at 130 are the same speed as 8ths at 260. And god forbid they actually play or know anything about how music is written, because music itself doesn't work that way. Arrows do work that way. That has been my experience with why people have a hard time with FNSMM. It's a mental block, they don't think they can do 16ths at 130 because they don't realize that was exactly what they did earlier. A little more extreme of a case, but I knew someone back in the Extreme days that passed Max 300 before he passed Drop Out FNSMM. No joke, his answer as to why was that he isn't fast enough for 16ths. He had no idea he was basically doing 16ths at 150 when he played Max 300.

Also, I gotta say, I didn't realize people actually still discussed DDR here. I usually pop in once a week and all the most recent posts are about simfiles or threads like let it out. I was quite pleased to see this thread in the top last night.
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Post #84 · Posted at 2018-12-10 07:08:19pm 5.3 years ago

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That paragraph about 16ths... wow, haha. I've never seen anyone who is actually like that in DDR. As someone who once tried to learn the piano and saw 16ths on the score sheet, I remember panicking and trying to rush even when I played a piece with just 8ths at twice the tempo. Perhaps suggesting the Flat arrow color and have them pretend the nonstop megamix runs at 260 as well might have helped?
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Post #85 · Posted at 2018-12-24 05:45:43pm 5.2 years ago

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So I played this song today and was actually very surprised:

The Lonely Streets

Heavy-Singles: 10 -> 11
Challenge-Singles: 12 -> 13 (very overstepped)
Heavy-Doubles: 10 -> 11
Challenge-Doubles: 12 -> 13 (low stepcount but lots of movement, very fun)

more stuff:

Truare Standard-Singles: 11 -> 12

Electronic or Treat Standard-Singles: 11 -> 12

AETHER Light-Doubles: 9 -> 10
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Post #86 · Posted at 2018-12-25 05:42:35pm 5.2 years ago

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When I first started playing DDR, I genuinely thought that for 8th/12th/16th steps, that you were supposed to tap lighter on the dance pad to register them.

I wasn't very smart with this game at 17.

I always thought Witch Doctor was an evil 8 on Single Heavy.

For IIDX, I will never understand why Click Again Single [H] is a 6. It is relentlessly difficult for a 6. (Same for The Safari [N], except replace 6 with the number 7.)

Post #87 · Posted at 2018-12-26 02:41:31am 5.2 years ago

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Paranoia Revolution

Light 9 -> 10/11

this chart has always felt misrated ever since I first played it, it does not feel like a 9.

Post #88 · Posted at 2019-03-20 06:59:19am 5 years ago

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A20's release came with a ton of re-rates, so let's see how many of these changes I would have liked to see the last time I wrote here have taken place.

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It's been a while since I first tried to write a list like this. I certainly don't know every chart in the game and I could definitely be wrong about more than a few here.

1st
MAKE IT BETTER S-Heavy 12 -> 11
PARANOiA D-Standard 13 -> 12, Heavy 11 -> 12

2nd
BRILLIANT 2U (Orchestra Groove) D-Heavy 9 -> 8
GENOM SCREAMS D-Heavy 12 -> 13
MAKE IT BETTER (So-REAL Mix) S-Heavy 10 -> 11
PARANOiA KCET ~clean mix~ D-Challenge 15 -> 14
PARANOiA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~ D-Heavy 11 -> 12
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME D-Heavy 8 -> 7
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME (Jazzy Groove) D-Heavy 11 -> 10

3rd
DROP THE BOMB D-Heavy 10 -> 11
LOVE THIS FEELIN’ D-Heavy 11 -> 12

4th
BABY BABY GIMME YOUR LOVE D-Heavy 9 -> 7
BURNIN’ THE FLOOR D-Heavy 12 -> 10
MY SUMMER LOVE S-Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Heavy 12 -> 10
ORION.78(AMeuro-MIX) D-Heavy 9 -> 10
SUPER STAR S-Heavy 12 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE CLIMAX S-Heavy 12 -> 13

5th
サナ・モレッテ・ネ・エンテ S-Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Heavy 12 -> 11
AFRONOVA PRIMEVAL S-Standard 8 -> 10 / D-Standard 9 -> 10, Heavy 13 -> 14
CAN'T STOP FALLIN' IN LOVE ~SPEED MIX~ S-Heavy 12 -> 13
STILL IN MY HEART D-Heavy 9 -> 10

MAX
Healing Vision ~Angelic mix~S-Heavy 13 -> 14
MAX 300 S-Standard 12 -> 13

MAX2
革命 D-Heavy 11 -> 12
AFRONOVA(FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX) S-Challenge 10 -> 11 / D-Challenge 10 -> 11
D2R D-Heavy 11 -> 12
DROP OUT(FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX) S-Challenge 12 -> 13
MY SUMMER LOVE(TOMMY'S SMILE MIX) S-Challenge 12 -> 11
Secret Rendez-vous D-Heavy 12 -> 11
TSUGARU D-Heavy 12 -> 13

EXTREME
蒼い衝動 ~for EXTREME~ S-Heavy 9 -> 10 / D-Heavy 11 -> 10
三毛猫ロック S-Heavy 11 -> 12
A S-Challenge 12 -> 13
Across the nightmare D-Heavy 13 -> 12
air D- Heavy 11 -> 10
I'm gonna get you! S-Heavy 9 -> 10
Kiss me all night long D-Heavy 11 -> 10
♥Love²シュガ→♥ S-Heavy 8 -> 9
LOVE♥SHINE S-Heavy 9 -> 10
PARANOIA survivor MAX S-Standard 11 -> 12, Heavy 15 -> 16 / D-Heavy 15 -> 16
sync (EXTREME version) S-Heavy 9 -> 10
The legend of MAX S-Standard 13 -> 12 / D-Standard 12 -> 13
TRIP MACHINE survivor D-Heavy 12 -> 13
1998 S-Heavy 9 -> 10 / D-Heavy 9 -> 10

SuperNOVA
怒れる大きな白い馬 S-Heavy 11 -> 12 / D-Heavy 11 -> 12
月光蝶 S-Heavy 10 -> 11
BALLAD FOR YOU~想いの雨~ S-Heavy 11 -> 9 / D-Heavy 11 -> 9
Brazilian Anthem S-Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Heavy 10 -> 11
cachaca S-Heavy 12 -> 11
CURUS S-Standard 7 -> 6, Heavy 10 -> 11
DoLL D-Challenge 14 -> 13
Dragon Blade D-Heavy 11 -> 12
Flow D-Heavy 11 -> 12
Flow (True Style) D-Challenge 13 -> 14
HAPPY☆ANGEL D-Heavy 11 -> 12
KEEP ON MOVIN' ~DMX MIX~ D-Heavy 12 -> 11
LOGICAL DASH S-Heavy 11 -> 10
MAX 300 (Super-Max-Me Mix) S-Standard 13 -> 14 / D-Light 9 -> 11, Standard 12 -> 13, Heavy 15 -> 16
MIDNIGHT SPECIAL S-Heavy 10 -> 11
Mind Parasite S-Heavy 13 -> 12
No.13 D-Heavy 12 -> 13
PARANOiA-Respect- S-Standard 12 -> 13 / D-Standard 12-> 13
STARS☆☆☆(2nd NAOKI's style) D-Heavy 11 -> 10
Star Gate Heaven D- Heavy 11 -> 12
TIERRA BUENA D-Heavy 11 -> 10
TRUE♥LOVE S-Heavy 10 -> 11 / D-Heavy 10 -> 11

SuperNOVA2
Arrabbiata S-Light 11 -> 10
D2R (“FREEZE” Special) D-Challenge 13 -> 11
FIRE S-Heavy 11 -> 12
Freeway Shuffle D-Heavy 9 -> 10
L'amour et la liberté(Darwin & DJ Silver remix) S-Heavy 11 -> 12
Pluto Relinquish D-Standard 15 -> 14
Raspberry♥Heart(English version) S-Challenge 11 -> 10 / D-Challenge 12 -> 11
Shades of Grey S-Heavy 11 -> 9
STARS☆☆☆ (Re-tuned by HΛL) - DDR EDITION – S-Heavy 9 -> 10 / D-Heavy 10 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE PhoeniX S-Standard 11 -> 12 / D-Standard 12 -> 13
Unreal S-Standard 12 -> 13 / D-Standard 12 -> 13

X
革命(X-Special) S-Challenge 14 -> 13
AFRONOVA(X-Special) S-Challenge 13 -> 14
dazzle S-Heavy 10 -> 9 / D-Heavy 10 -> 9
Healing Vision(X-Special) D-Challenge 14 -> 15
Inspiration D-Heavy 9 -> 10
Malacca S-Heavy 10 -> 9, Challenge 13 -> 14 / D-Challenge 13 -> 14
on the bounce S-Challenge 16 -> 15
PARANOIA ETERNAL(X-Special) D-Challenge 13 -> 14
PARANOIA EVOLUTION(X-Special) D-Challenge 14 -> 16 (Ehh, one level short...)
PARANOiA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~(X-Special) D-Challenge 13 -> 14
S・A・G・A D-Standard 10 -> 12
SABER WING D-Heavy 13 -> 14, Challenge 13 -> 14
SUPER SAMURAI S-Standard 12 -> 13 / D-Standard 12 -> 13
Taj He Spitz D-Heavy 11 -> 10
Till the lonely’s gone S-Heavy 9 -> 10 / D-Heavy 9 -> 10
TimeHollow S-Heavy 10 -> 8
Trigger D-Standard 11 -> 12

X2
冥 D-Challenge 18 -> 17
All My Love D-Heavy 11 -> 10
Anti-Matter S-Light 10 -> 11 / D-Light 10 -> 12 (One more...)
Crazy Control S-Heavy 9 -> 10
Decade D-Heavy 12 -> 11
Heatstroke D-Heavy 10 -> 11
in love wit you S-Heavy 8 -> 10 / D-Heavy 9 -> 10
roppongi EVOLVED ver.D S-Heavy 15 -> 16
Poseidon (kors k mix) S-Heavy 14 -> 13
POSSESSION S-Beginner 7 -> 8 / D-Light 10 -> 11, Heavy 17 -> 18
Sacred Oath D-Heavy 11 -> 12
sakura storm S-Heavy 10 -> 11 / D-Heavy 11 -> 10
Shiny World S-Heavy 14 -> 13
smooooch・∀・S-Challenge 10 -> 11 / D-Challenge 10 -> 12
Taking It To The Sky D-Heavy 8 -> 9
Valkyrie dimension S-Standard 15 -> 14 / D-Standard 15 -> 14 (To be honest, the single chart deserves it a little more)
Your Angel S-Heavy 10 -> 11
ZETA~素数の世界と超越者~ S-Standard 11 -> 10
ΔMAX S-Beginner 3 -> 5, Light 5 -> 7, Heavy 17 -> 16 / D-Light 7 -> 9, Standard 13 -> 14

X3 VS 2ndMix
アルストロメリア (walk with you remix) D-Heavy 12 -> 11, Challenge 13 -> 12
ビューティフル レシート D-Heavy 13 -> 12
CRAZY♥LOVE D-Heavy 15 -> 14
Cosmic Hurricane D-Challenge 15 -> 16
Find You Again D-Heavy 13 -> 12
FLOWER D-Standard 9 -> 10, Heavy 13 -> 12
Go For The Top D-Challenge 18 -> 17
HEARTBREAK (Sound Selektaz remix) D-Heavy 11 -> 10
Let's Get Away D-Heavy 13 -> 12
LOVE IS THE POWER -Re:born- S-Heavy 10 -> 11 / D-Heavy 10 -> 12
Mermaid girl D-Challenge 12 -> 11
New York EVOLVED (Type B, Type C) D-Heavy 16 -> 15
PARANOiA Revolution S-Light 9 -> 11
Seule S-Standard 10 -> 9 / D-Standard 10 -> 9
SigSig S-Heavy 12 -> 11
SILVER☆DREAM S-Standard 11 -> 12
Something Special S-Heavy 11 -> 9 / D-Heavy 11 -> 10
TIME D-Standard 7 -> 9
Tohoku EVOLVED D-Heavy 17 -> 18
tokyoEVOLVED (TYPE1, TYPE2, TYPE3) D-Heavy 16 -> 15
Tribe S-Challenge 13 -> 14 / D-Heavy 10 -> 11, Challenge 14 -> 15
TRIP MACHINE EVOLUTION S-Heavy 16 -> 17 / D-Light 9 -> 8, Heavy 16 -> 17
TWINKLE♡HEART S-Challenge 10 -> 11 / D-Challenge 11 -> 13

2013
お米の美味しい炊き方、そしてお米を食べることによるその効果。S-Standard 12 -> 13 / D-Standard 12 -> 13
晴天Bon Voyage D-Heavy 11 -> 12
創世ノート S-Heavy 13 -> 14
ちくわパフェだよ☆CKP S-Heavy 12 -> 11
からふるぱすてる S-Heavy 12 -> 13 / D-Heavy 12 -> 14
†渚の小悪魔ラヴリィ~レイディオ† S-Heavy 15 -> 16 / D-Standard 10 -> 12, Heavy 15 -> 16
虹色の花 D-Heavy 11 -> 12
フー・フローツS-Heavy 12 -> 13 / D-Standard 9 -> 10, Heavy 12 -> 13
めうめうぺったんたん!! D-Challenge 15 -> 16
ACROSS WORLD S-Heavy 12 -> 11, Challenge 14 -> 15
Air Heroes S-Challenge 17 -> 18 / D-Heavy 15 -> 16
Blew My Mind S-Standard 12 -> 13, Heavy 16 -> 17 / D-Standard 12 -> 13, Heavy 16 -> 17
Bombay Bomb D-Heavy 12 -> 13
Children of the Beat D-Heavy 10 -> 11
Elemental Creation D-Standard 14 -> 15
Find The Way S-Heavy 12 -> 13 / D-Heavy 12 -> 13
GAIA D-Heavy 16 -> 17
Magnetic S-Challenge 17 -> 16
Monkey Business D-Challenge 16 -> 17
New Gravity S-Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Heavy 12 -> 11
nightbird lost wing D-Heavy 14 -> 15
Qipchãq S-Heavy 11 -> 12 / D-Heavy 11 -> 12
RЁVOLUTIΦN D-Challenge 17 -> 18
sola D-Heavy 12 -> 13
Spanish Snowy Dance S-Heavy 15 -> 16 / D-Standard 11 -> 12, Heavy 15 -> 17, Challenge 17 -> 18
Starry HEAVEN S-Heavy 11 -> 9 / D-Heavy 11 -> 10
Straight Oath S-Standard 11 -> 10 / D-Heavy 13 -> 14, Challenge 15 -> 16
STULTI S-Heavy 15 -> 16 / D-Heavy 15 -> 16
Synergy for Angels D-Standard 10 -> 11
The Island Song S-Challenge 13 -> 14 / D-Challenge 13 -> 14
THE REASON S-Challenge 15 -> 16
Triple Journey -TAG EDITION- S-Heavy 16 -> 17 / D-Heavy 16 -> 17
Wow Wow VENUS D-Heavy 12 -> 11

2014
幻想系世界修復少女 D-Heavy 13 -> 14
漆黒のスペシャルプリンセスサンデー S-Heavy 13 -> 12
灼熱Beach Side Bunny S-Standard 11 -> 12 / D-Heavy 15 -> 16
天空の華 S-Standard 12 -> 11
ドーパミンD-Heavy 17 - > 18
夏色DIARY -DDR mix- S-Standard 10 -> 11 / D-Heavy 15 -> 14
パ→ピ→プ→Yeah! S-Heavy 13 -> 12
バンブーソード・ガールD-Standard 12 -> 13
ホメ猫☆センセーションS-Standard 10 -> 9
マインド・ゲーム D-Heavy 15 -> 14
回レ!雪月花 D-Heavy 12 -> 11
ラクガキスト D-Heavy 13 -> 14
海神 S-Heavy 16 -> 15 / D-Heavy 16 -> 15
Adularia S-Heavy 14 -> 13 / D-Heavy 13 -> 12
Cleopatrysm S-Heavy 15 -> 14 / D-Standard 11 -> 10, Heavy 15 -> 14
Din Don Dan D-Heavy 10 -> 11
Dispersion Star D-Heavy 14 -> 13
Do The Evolution D-Heavy 13 -> 12
Dreamin' S-Challenge 12 -> 13
Electronic or Treat! S-Heavy 14 -> 15 / D-Heavy 14 -> 15
Engraved Mark S-Standard 12 -> 11, Heavy 16 -> 15 / D-Standard 13 -> 12, Heavy 16 -> 15
FUNKY SUMMER BEACH S-Heavy 14 -> 13
Go↓Go↑Girls&Boys! S-Heavy 11 -> 10
Idola D-Challenge 17 -> 18
IMANOGUILTS S-Challenge 15 -> 16 / D-Standard 11 -> 12, Challenge 15 -> 16
MAX.(period) S-Light 12 -> 13, Standard 13 -> 14
LoveLove DokiDoki D-Heavy 12 -> 13
Over The “Period” S-Beginner 8 -> 9, Standard 15 -> 16 / D-Standard 15 -> 16
Party Lights (Tommie Sunshine's Brooklyn Fire Remix) S-Heavy 11 -> 10
Remain D-Standard 12 -> 13, Heavy 15 -> 16
Romancing Layer S-Standard 11 -> 10, Heavy 15 -> 14 / D-Heavy 15 -> 14
SABER WING (satellite silhouette remix) D-Challenge 14 -> 13
Sakura Mirage S-Heavy 14 -> 13
Samurai Shogun vs. Master Ninja S-Heavy 14 -> 15
Sand Blow D-Heavy 16 -> 15
Starlight Fantasia (Endorphins Mix) S-Heavy 15 -> 16 / D-Heavy 15 -> 16
starmine S-Heavy 15 -> 14
Stella Sinistra S-Heavy 15 -> 14
Summer fantasy (Darwin remix) S-Heavy 13 -> 12
SUPER HERO S-Heavy 12 -> 11
The Lonely Streets S-Heavy 10 -> 11 / D-Heavy 10 -> 11
Truare! S-Standard 11 -> 12 / D-Standard 11 -> 12
True Blue D-Heavy 16 -> 15
VEGA S-Heavy 14 -> 15 / D-Heavy 14 -> 15
8000000 S-Standard 11 -> 9

A
色は匂へど散りぬるをS-Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Heavy 12 -> 11
イーディーエム・ジャンパーズ D-Heavy 11 -> 12
朧 D-Heavy 13 -> 12
きゅん×きゅんばっきゅん☆LOVE S-Heavy 11 -> 10 / D-Heavy 11 -> 12
君氏危うくも近うよれ S-Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Heavy 13 -> 12
恋のパズルマジックS-Heavy 11 -> 10
この青空の下で S-Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Heavy 11 -> 12
十二星座の聖域 D-Heavy 12 -> 13
春風ブロ―インウィンドS-Heavy 14 -> 15 / D-Light 6-> 7, Heavy 14 -> 15
宇宙(ソラ)への片道切符 S-Heavy 13 -> 12
打打打打打打打打打打 D-Challenge 15 -> 16
チルノのパーフェクトさんすう教室(EDM REMIX) S-Heavy 13 -> 14 / D-Heavy 13 -> 14
ナイト・オブ・ナイツ D-Heavy 15 -> 14
初音ミクの消失S-Challenge 16 -> 15 / D-Light 8 -> 10, Standard 11 -> 13, Challenge 16 -> 15
ハルイチバン S-Light 7 -> 6, Standard 9 -> 7 / D-Light 6 -> 5, Standard 9 -> 7, Heavy 12 -> 11
無頼ック自己ライザーS-Heavy 12 -> 13 / D-Heavy 12 -> 13
輪廻転生S-Heavy 13 -> 14, Challenge 16 -> 17 / D-Heavy 13 -> 14, Challenge 16 -> 17
ルミナスデイズS-Heavy 11 -> 12
恋愛観測 D-Heavy 12 -> 13
ロストワンの号哭S-Challenge 15 -> 14
ロンロンへ ライライライ! S-Heavy 13 -> 12 / D-Heavy 13 -> 12
ACE FOR ACES D-Heavy 15 -> 16
Astrogazer D-Standard 12 -> 11, Heavy 16 -> 15
bass 2 bass S-Heavy 11 -> 12 / D-Heavy 13 -> 12
Be a Hero! S-Light 9 -> 10 / D-Light 9 -> 10
Boss Rush S-Light 11 -> 10, Standard 14 -> 15 / D-Light 11 -> 10, Standard 14 -> 15
CHOCOLATE PHILOSOPHY S-Heavy 10 -> 9 / D-Challenge 13 -> 12
Cytokinesis S-Standard 12 -> 11 / D-Standard 12 -> 10
Dancer in the flare S-Standard 11 -> 10
DREAMING-ING!! S-Light 8 -> 6 / D-Light 8 -> 6
Electric Dance System Music S-Standard 9 -> 10, Heavy 13 -> 14 / D-Standard 9 -> 11, Heavy 13 -> 14
Emera S-Heavy 16 -> 15 / D-Heavy 16 -> 15
Eternal Summer S-Light 6 -> 7, Heavy 12 -> 13 / D-Light 6 -> 7, Heavy 12 -> 13
Far east nightbird kors k Remix -DDR edit ver- S-Light 7 -> 6 / D-Standard 11 -> 10
First Time S-Heavy 15 -> 16, Challenge 17 -> 18 / D-Heavy 15 -> 16, Challenge 17 -> 18
Happy S-Standard 10 -> 8, Heavy 12 -> 11 / D-Standard 9 -> 8, Heavy 13 -> 12
Hillbilly Shoes S-Standard 10 -> 8, Heavy 13 -> 12 / D-Standard 10 -> 8
I Want You To Know S-Heavy 11 -> 10
Life is beautiful S-Heavy 16 -> 15
Love You More S-Standard 12 -> 13
MAX 360 S-Light 12 -> 13, Standard 15 -> 16 / D-Light 12 -> 13
More One Night S-Standard 9 -> 8, Heavy 11 -> 10, Challenge 13 -> 12 / D-Standard 9 -> 8, Heavy 12 -> 11, Challenge 13 -> 12
Neutrino S-Heavy 16 -> 17 / D-Standard 12 -> 13, Heavy 16 -> 17
out of focus S-Standard 12 -> 11 / D-Standard 12 -> 11
Poochie D-Heavy 15 -> 16
POSSESSION (20th Anniversary Mix) S-Heavy 16 -> 17 / D-Standard 14 -> 15
Prey S-Standard 14 -> 15 / D-Standard 14 -> 15
Puberty Dysthymia D-Standard 13 -> 14
Rejoin D-Heavy 13 -> 14
RISING FIRE HAWK D-Heavy 14 -> 15
Sakura Reflection S-Heavy 15 -> 14 / D-Heavy 15 -> 14
Sephirot D-Heavy 13 -> 12
SHION S-Standard 9 -> 10 / D-Standard 10 -> 11
S!ck S-Standard 13 -> 12 / D-Standard 13 -> 12
StrayedCatz D-Heavy 14 -> 13
SUPER SUMMER SALE S-Standard 11 -> 12 / D-Standard 11 -> 12
The Night Away (MK Remix) S-Heavy 12 -> 11
Time Of Our Lives S-Heavy 11 -> 10
Towards the TOWER D-Heavy 12 -> 13
Vanquish The Ghost S-Heavy 15 -> 16
Wake Me Up S-Heavy 13 -> 12

ZEPHYRANTHES S-Standard 12 -> 11 / D-Standard 12 -> 11

The number of charts that actually got re-rated according to what I thought three months ago is actually quite impressive. I wasn't expecting Konami to do that at all.
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Post #89 · Posted at 2019-03-20 08:31:56am 5 years ago

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^^Where are you getting all this free time to log all this shit? Seriously, with this and the 30 x scale spreadsheet, it’s almost clinically insane. And what scares me is how controlled everything is. Like, this goes miles past a regular teenageer’s pastime and into obsessive compulsive territory. How old are you? Do you have a job/pay rent? Are you still in school? Seriously, where does everyone have the time to write out stuff like this so extensively? Who the fuck are you people?

Post #90 · Posted at 2019-03-20 08:36:24am 5 years ago

Offline forcednature
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PARANOIA EVOLUTION(X-Special) D-Challenge 14 -> 16 (Ehh, one level short...)

Going as far as 16 would be a bit far IMO. It's a really hard movement chart, but does not warrant being at a higher level than charts like THE REASON CDP or PARANOiA HADES DDP. 15 is the correct rating for the chart. How did KONAMI ever think it was a 14?

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Electronic or Treat! S-Heavy 14 -> 15 / D-Heavy 14 -> 15

I can't believe they actually did this. 15's mean less and less. At least Romancing Layer got bumped down, but even then...
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Post #91 · Posted at 2019-03-20 08:56:50am 5 years ago

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^^Where are you getting all this free time to log all this shit? Seriously, with this and the 30 x scale spreadsheet, it’s almost clinically insane. And what scares me is how controlled everything is. Like, this goes miles past a regular teenageer’s pastime and into obsessive compulsive territory. How old are you? Do you have a job/pay rent? Are you still in school? Seriously, where does everyone have the time to write out stuff like this so extensively? Who the fuck are you people?
When you play enough times you get really good at rating stuff by looking at the chart without playing, so I could probably knock something like this up in about three hours, maybe less?

Also Newb's 26.
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Post #92 · Posted at 2019-03-20 09:05:46am 5 years ago

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I’ve playedbgsxc sincebc the extrjjneme days, i can chimejjj in w an opinionsss or two aboutjjj ratings, and arguedddd like hellffffff back and forth aboutyfx a specific difficultyxxddgb rating too, but I just fffgggdon’t have the free time thathjj ijhhbb has and it honestly makeshifts me mjhvbbnnlaugh/be jjgcccconcerned. Threefold hours fffggdoing that? That’s gggspectrum materialjjhfdxd. I assume most ijhcxxxxpeople who use this site are on it tho.

They haven’t medicationjhddx for shit like thatjjhczss you know. Job Lot kjfddof users be on ijhvxxthis site shouldkjvcc look into takingbgdse it.njjjj

Post #93 · Posted at 2019-03-20 09:13:44am 5 years ago

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Post #94 · Posted at 2019-03-20 09:26:30am 5 years ago

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I’ve playedbgsxc sincebc the extrjjneme days, i can chimejjj in w an opinionsss or two aboutjjj ratings, and arguedddd like hellffffff back and forth aboutyfx a specific difficultyxxddgb rating too, but I just fffgggdon’t have the free time thathjj ijhhbb has and it honestly makeshifts me mjhvbbnnlaugh/be jjgcccconcerned. Threefold hours fffggdoing that? That’s gggspectrum materialjjhfdxd. I assume most ijhcxxxxpeople who use this site are on it tho.

They haven’t medicationjhddx for shit like thatjjhczss you know. Job Lot kjfddof users be on ijhvxxthis site shouldkjvcc look into takingbgdse it.njjjj

Glitching yourself, I see.

Anyways, yeah... Lots of re-rate. Pretty surprised with some of them.

Post #95 · Posted at 2019-03-20 03:33:04pm 5 years ago

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To masterofnone:
I did these over several days for a few hours at a time whenever I got bored and wanted to load up StepMania and watch charts and stuff. I spent much less time on this and my XX Joke Scale than I have on actual simfile projects. Not a big deal, really. I clearly haven't seen every chart in the game yet. As for what I do for a living, I do freelance translation projects now.

The very fact that you questioned my sanity over a list I made makes me laugh. You don't know half the things I do, do you? Tongue

P.S. Would it hurt to write that second post in a cohesive manner?

To FoRCeDNaTuRe:
I suppose. Maybe I have a particularly hard time with that chart's movements, especially during streams where mass jackhammers are involved. If it is indeed a 15, it would certainly be right near the top for me.
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Post #96 · Posted at 2019-03-20 03:56:33pm 5 years ago

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I’ve playedbgsxc sincebc the extrjjneme days, i can chimejjj in w an opinionsss or two aboutjjj ratings, and arguedddd like hellffffff back and forth aboutyfx a specific difficultyxxddgb rating too, but I just fffgggdon’t have the free time thathjj ijhhbb has and it honestly makeshifts me mjhvbbnnlaugh/be jjgcccconcerned. Threefold hours fffggdoing that? That’s gggspectrum materialjjhfdxd. I assume most ijhcxxxxpeople who use this site are on it tho.

They haven’t medicationjhddx for shit like thatjjhczss you know. Job Lot kjfddof users be on ijhvxxthis site shouldkjvcc look into takingbgdse it.njjjj
"Last updated: 2019-03-20 04:11am" and it still looks like this

Post #97 · Posted at 2019-03-20 04:01:45pm 5 years ago

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Post #98 · Posted at 2019-03-20 04:15:38pm 5 years ago

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^^Where are you getting all this free time to log all this shit? Seriously, with this and the 30 x scale spreadsheet, it’s almost clinically insane. And what scares me is how controlled everything is. Like, this goes miles past a regular teenageer’s pastime and into obsessive compulsive territory. How old are you? Do you have a job/pay rent? Are you still in school? Seriously, where does everyone have the time to write out stuff like this so extensively? Who the fuck are you people?
hoe u literally had time to do this to quickman stfu:
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anyways enough attacking I don't want this to turn into an flamefest like I did but wow Konami really going all out rerating nearly all the songs they did correctly too bad vanquish is misrated now Sad

Post #99 · Posted at 2019-03-20 04:18:59pm 5 years ago

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to be fair the screenshots show that took about four minutes so it's not too hard

but yeah, whoever masterofnone is, shut the fuck up. be grateful people with more dedication than you are taking time to actually give the rest of the world information on this stuff

if you're gonna be a bitch and come on ZIv to insult people who have "too much free time", you may be someone who indeed has too much free time yourself
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