Misrated songs

I felt that one pretty strongly with First Time because I really don't see any musical justification for its ending 24th stream.

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First Time was originally a 17, and I imagine that ending was added because they felt that the bursts in the beginning of the chart were too tame for a 17 (which is false).

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Okay, you are really telling me this is an 18 Konami? If I didn't suck at avoiding shock arrows so much, I'd be able to pass it pretty easily, and tbh I haven't even tried yet since I don't have the best access to a gold cab. Without the shock arrows I'd say its a 15 at most, so I can't see the shock arrows really adding 3 points of difficulty.

I was thinking the same thing when seeing the chart. I'd call it a 17.

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On Stepmania it's a 15 but on DDR it's a high 17/low 18 just because of how bullshit shock arrows are compared to mines. You could park a bus in how wide the window is.

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Yeah Megalovania is 100% an 18. Remember that hitting a shock arrow literally blanks out the screen for a second, too -- this makes it much easier to mess up later patterns in the chart.

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Over the period , Endymion , and Max 360 push it for 15, they seem at least borderline 15/16
OtP has a bunch of 16ths at 200/210 and 8ths at 420 (including a drill), plus jumps
Endymion - 16ths at 220/ 8ths at 440
Max 360 has a stepjump sequence at 360 4ths/ 180 8ths and some longer 8th bursts @ 360

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I don't play boss songs. But at the recommendation of someone I met at the arcade, I tried Draw the Savage on Doubles tonight. This chart, rated 16, consists mainly of 8th note stream at a comfortable 134 bpm. Sure, the patterns are tricky if played as intended, but by that standard bag should still be a boss song. I give this chart a 12, low 13 at best.

Let me put it this way: If Draw the Savage Doubles is a 16, then Jam Jam Reggae (AMD Swing Mix) Doubles is a 14.

Also, I don't think Dead Heat Doubles should be a 14. It plays similarly to AFRONOVA PRIMEVAL, a 13, but requires less stamina.

Draw the Savage is a high 14 / low 15 imo, but by extension a lot of wide doubles charts should also be +1/2. Doubles ratings are bad in general.

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They may have been brought up, but I disagree with Love Love Sugar as an 8 and .59 as an 11. 9 and 10 respectively would be very appropriate for those.

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Looks like you finally got your wish, Braeden.

I should know. I'm from the future.

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DAM DARIRAM (X2-Edit) 11 -> 12
- Just a bit iffy on the gallops to be honest, if it was the older edit I could be fine with an 11 though
MAGIC PARADE 10 -> 11
- On the easier side of 11s for sure, but this being a 10 with how the chart plays doesn't fit imo (turns out i said this before but i'm still right btw)
DYNAMITE RAVE (HP3/X2 CS) 10 -> 11
- Easier than the 3rdMIX chart, but not that much easier, but this chart is never getting revived anyways
Keep on movin' 10 -> 11
- If it ever gets revived it's gonna get a better chart anyways
THIS NIGHT 11 -> 12
- those gallops at a moderately fast BPM doesn't fit an 11 imo, but I could just have major skill issue since alot the rest of the chart is fairly simplistic even with the wonky flow

Debatable: ZERO 11 -> 12
- I could see argument for both ratings, but this chart sucks regardless
Debatable: Sacred Oath 11 -> 12
- This is a HP3 chart so I could see the expert chart being a harder 11, only gets harder at the end to be honest

i dunno if i ever clamored for this song to be re-rated but:
5.1.1 6 (not with those 16ths!!!) -> 9

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Hi SomethingRandom, thanks for bumping this thread! I also wanted to share some licenses from DDRMAX2 I feel are misrated.

MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE (KC Club MIX) D- I think this should be a 7 (X-Scale 10), since most of the patterns aren't very difficult (granted, there's 1 or 2 weird ones, but I think are doable in this range), and a lack of 16th notes.

TRANCE DE JANIERO S & D-: Both of these feel like they should be a 7 (X-Scale 10) and an 8 (X-Scale 12). The former mostly has the short gallops and the 4-16-8 pattern common in 7 footers, and the latter uses these gallops in a more tricky way, but not something that would warrant a 9.

NOTHING'S GONNA STOP S-: This might be more subjective, but I think this should be a 6 (X-Scale 9), give how much more difficult D- is (and is also rated a 7), as well as how difficult most of the other 7-foot licenses from this mix are. Comparing to the only other 6- foot ( ) license, FANTASY, NOTHING's GONNA STOP does have a slightly higher BPM and some crossover patterns, but FANTASY has a couple of tricky 16th patterns and step jumps. I think they both would complement each other well as charts that have the same difficulty rating, but are more difficult in different ways.

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Robot Footwork S-: This chart is STEP MACHINE cranked up to 11, and that song is a tough 14 to begin with. Definitely should be a 15 imo.

Closer : 7 -> 8 (the HP3 rating i'd push back to a 6)
- they didn't even bother giving this a proper X-scale re-rating
Dream on Dreamer : 6 -> 7
- Fairly simplistic for 2/3rds, quickly becomes a bit more fast-paced at the end which pushes it to a chart you'd find on songs with 14s
Do You Know (The Ping Pong Song) : 8 -> 9
- Shine is a 9 and so is this

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Battle Against a True Hero being a 15 is insane to me. I had the clear lamp before World and it was by far the hardest pass for me because of the shocks, including the songs that got rerated to 16. Roppongi Evolved Ver. D could also go up a level for speed/stamina.

Concertino in Blue doubles: that is more 17 than some dp 17s

ENDYMION SP = 20

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I would have to agree. Here's some more for you;
EGOISM 440 DP 19->20
NGO SP 18->17
量子の海のリントヴルム BOTH 18->19
Valkyrie dimension SP 15->16, 9->10
B4U (VOLTAGE Special) BOTH 15->16
Better Than Me DP 15->14

Disagree on singles. That chart is shit from a butt, but it's pretty tame outside of the ending compared to most 15s or even just the doubles chart.

also it's currently a 14 not a 15