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Post #261 · Posted at 2022-05-15 12:41:06pm 1.9 years ago

Offline NewbStepper
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It would not shock me in the slightest. A lot of charts even today feel like the rating is decided before the chart is actually made, and it can create weird shit like complex rhythms not being charted in the song, which is fine if you don't want to go all out, but then complex rhythms that AREN'T in the song are also used, and it's like... yeah, this was clearly not made with anything other than "this chart HAS to be a 14" or whatever.
I felt that one pretty strongly with First Time Challenge because I really don't see any musical justification for its ending 24th stream.
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Post #262 · Posted at 2022-05-15 01:52:05pm 1.9 years ago

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It would not shock me in the slightest. A lot of charts even today feel like the rating is decided before the chart is actually made, and it can create weird shit like complex rhythms not being charted in the song, which is fine if you don't want to go all out, but then complex rhythms that AREN'T in the song are also used, and it's like... yeah, this was clearly not made with anything other than "this chart HAS to be a 14" or whatever.
I felt that one pretty strongly with First Time Challenge because I really don't see any musical justification for its ending 24th stream.

First Time was originally a 17, and I imagine that ending was added because they felt that the bursts in the beginning of the chart were too tame for a 17 (which is false).

Post #263 · Posted at 2022-06-01 12:39:56am 1.9 years ago

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Okay, you are really telling me this is an 18 Konami? If I didn't suck at avoiding shock arrows so much, I'd be able to pass it pretty easily, and tbh I haven't even tried yet since I don't have the best access to a gold cab. Without the shock arrows I'd say its a 15 at most, so I can't see the shock arrows really adding 3 points of difficulty.
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Post #264 · Posted at 2022-06-01 03:58:40am 1.9 years ago

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Okay, you are really telling me this is an 18 Konami? If I didn't suck at avoiding shock arrows so much, I'd be able to pass it pretty easily, and tbh I haven't even tried yet since I don't have the best access to a gold cab. Without the shock arrows I'd say its a 15 at most, so I can't see the shock arrows really adding 3 points of difficulty.

I was thinking the same thing when seeing the chart. I'd call it a 17.

Post #265 · Posted at 2022-06-01 10:37:45am 1.9 years ago

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Okay, you are really telling me this is an 18 Konami? If I didn't suck at avoiding shock arrows so much, I'd be able to pass it pretty easily, and tbh I haven't even tried yet since I don't have the best access to a gold cab. Without the shock arrows I'd say its a 15 at most, so I can't see the shock arrows really adding 3 points of difficulty.

On Stepmania it's a 15 but on DDR it's a high 17/low 18 just because of how bullshit shock arrows are compared to mines. You could park a bus in how wide the window is.
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Post #266 · Posted at 2022-06-01 09:11:58pm 1.8 years ago

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Yeah Megalovania is 100% an 18. Remember that hitting a shock arrow literally blanks out the screen for a second, too -- this makes it much easier to mess up later patterns in the chart.

Post #267 · Posted at 2022-06-01 09:40:09pm 1.8 years ago

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"X scale 20"
Over the period Standard , Endymion Standard , and Max 360 Standard push it for 15, they seem at least borderline 15/16
OtP has a bunch of 16ths at 200/210 and 8ths at 420 (including a drill), plus jumps
Endymion - 16ths at 220/ 8ths at 440
Max 360 has a stepjump sequence at 360 4ths/ 180 8ths and some longer 8th bursts @ 360
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