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Post #181 · Posted at 2020-07-03 05:51:52pm 3.8 years ago

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In the past S-Heavy and D-Heavy are better off being lowered from 16s to 15s. Nothing in the song that warrants a 16 rating, and can be compared to charts like Another Phase (but even easier). Arguably easier than even Life is beautiful due to lower stamina requirement and less dense 16ths. Easy 15 on singles, mid-high 15 on doubles?

Post #182 · Posted at 2020-07-03 11:49:30pm 3.8 years ago

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So a couple 14s got rerated to 15 but Spanish Snowy DanceHeavy didn't get rerated to 16

Annoyed

Post #183 · Posted at 2020-07-04 03:14:19am 3.8 years ago

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Thank god Drop the Bounce ESP got re rated to 15. It didn't feel like a 14 with all those drills.
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Post #184 · Posted at 2020-07-04 04:58:48am 3.8 years ago

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HyperTwist Heavy (15=>14, singles only)
I can't agree with this. The song is 190 BPM and although it doesn't have many 16ths there are many crossovers and spins throughout the chart. It's an entry level 15, but too hard to be a 14.
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Post #185 · Posted at 2020-07-04 02:32:08pm 3.8 years ago

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Is there any difficulty range that gets contested as much as the 14-15 area? The Romancing Layer fiasco certainly made it seem so before this.
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Post #186 · Posted at 2020-07-04 05:21:17pm 3.8 years ago

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The 14-15 jump has always been the dividing line (for me) between 'kinda difficult' and 'ok this is hard now', so no, I don't think there is any other difficulty range that is contested as much.
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Post #187 · Posted at 2020-07-04 07:23:58pm 3.8 years ago

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HyperTwist Heavy (15=>14, singles only)
I can't agree with this. The song is 190 BPM and although it doesn't have many 16ths there are many crossovers and spins throughout the chart. It's an entry level 15, but too hard to be a 14.

There are no spins in the chart; either way spins and 270s appear at faster speeds mid-stream in even entry-level 15s and 14s (Arrabbiata, Revolution), and crossovers at 190 should be trivial even for a 14 unless they're mixed with jumps (New Century, Sousei Note). The 16th placements are completely devoid of crossovers or twists, and there aren't any bursts greater than 3 notes either. I would argue in this respect that IMANOGUILTS (gallop crossovers/laterals), VEGA (greater bursts, stepjumps), Kneesocks (16ths with twists, drills, longer bursts), and Boss Rush (even longer crossover streams, longer bursts) completely outclass HyperTwist.

I really don't see any justification for it being a 15 beyond "A20 made 15s really easy"

Post #188 · Posted at 2020-07-05 08:46:53pm 3.8 years ago

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HAPPY ANGEL S-Challenge 16 => 17
In the past S-Heavy 16 => 15

Post #189 · Posted at 2020-07-22 02:19:08pm 3.7 years ago

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I Want To Do This Keep S/D-Heavy 15 -> 14
STEP MACHINE S/D-Heavy 14 -> 15

Post #190 · Posted at 2020-07-22 05:58:34pm 3.7 years ago

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Imo STEP MACHINE Heavy charts are fine as 14s. They're rhythmically challenging, but not intensive enough in other ways to work as 15s.

Post #191 · Posted at 2020-08-19 03:12:49am 3.6 years ago

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ノルエピネフリン S-Standard 10 -> 11 || S/D-Heavy 14 -> 15

Post #192 · Posted at 2020-08-19 06:44:58pm 3.6 years ago

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DIGITALIZER S-Heavy 17 -> 16

Nothing in the chart that really bumps it to a 17. Only short runs at a BPM as low as 180; no laterals or aggressive turning

Post #193 · Posted at 2020-08-19 08:32:06pm 3.6 years ago

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DIGITALIZER S-Heavy 17 -> 16

Nothing in the chart that really bumps it to a 17. Only short runs at a BPM as low as 180; no laterals or aggressive turning
I agree with this, but also... 180 BPM is considered "low" these days?

Post #194 · Posted at 2020-08-19 09:08:24pm 3.6 years ago

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Maybe not low...but the new normal considering how much hardcore and drum n' bass has been showing up in recent mixes.

Post #195 · Posted at 2020-08-19 09:44:01pm 3.6 years ago

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DIGITALIZER S-Heavy 17 -> 16

Nothing in the chart that really bumps it to a 17. Only short runs at a BPM as low as 180; no laterals or aggressive turning
I agree with this, but also... 180 BPM is considered "low" these days?

Not saying the BPM is low, but that the BPM is relatively low for a 17 that only has short runs

Post #196 · Posted at 2020-08-19 10:33:58pm 3.6 years ago

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At that BPM I'd expect at least a full measure 16th run but there's really nothing complex or draining enough here to warrant a 16 rating, especially when Triple Journey Heavy exists as a 16. This is a lot easier than Glitch Angel Heavy which I consider the lowest possible bar for a 17. While DIGITALIZER is faster and a little more dense it's much more straightforward than Glitch Angel, since that song has tricky rhythms and crossover patterns along with 12th jacks.
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Post #197 · Posted at 2020-09-10 02:47:45am 3.6 years ago

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Bang Pad (Werk Mix) Single/Double Heavy
13 -> 14
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Post #198 · Posted at 2020-09-10 12:36:08pm 3.6 years ago

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DIGITALIZER S-Heavy 17 -> 16

Nothing in the chart that really bumps it to a 17. Only short runs at a BPM as low as 180; no laterals or aggressive turning
I agree with this, but also... 180 BPM is considered "low" these days?

For me, 180 seems like a "medium" speed-not low, and is the maximum speed at which I can pass somgs on difficult without a lot of effort.
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Post #199 · Posted at 2021-02-04 01:14:40pm 3.2 years ago

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Stuff pre-X that still needs to be re-rated (all on singles):

A Heavy 11 ->12, Challenge 12 -> 13
AA Standard 9 -> 10
Abyss Light 4 -> 5
air Light 5 -> 6, Heavy 10 -> 9
BABY BABY GIMME YOUR LOVE Light 2 -> 1, Heavy 7 -> 6
B4U (VOLTAGE Special) Challenge 14 -> 15
bag Light 7 -> 6
Bloody Tears (IIDX EDITION) Standard 6 -> 7
BRILLIANT 2U Standard 6 -> 7
BRILLIANT 2U(K.O.G G3 MIX) Challenge 10 -> 11
BROKEN MY HEART Light 5 -> 6
CAN'T STOP FALLIN' IN LOVE ~SPEED MIX~ Light 6 -> 7, Standard 9 -> 10, Heavy 12 -> 13
CURUS Standard 7 -> 5, Heavy 10 -> 12
CUTIE CHASER(MORNING MIX) Standard 4 -> 5
DEAD END (GROOVE RADAR Special) Challenge 18 -> 19
DESTINY Heavy 10 -> 11
DoLL Challenge 13 -> 14
DROP OUT Light 8 -> 9 Heavy 13 -> 14
DROP OUT(FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX) Challenge 12 -> 13
era (nostalmix) Light 5 -> 6, Heavy 11 -> 12
Flow Light 5 -> 6
Flow (Jammin' Ragga Mix) Heavy 13 -> 14
Funk Boogie Light 5 -> 4
Gamelan de Couple Light 4 -> 5
Gekkou chou Heavy 10 -> 11
Healing Vision Standard 7 -> 8
iFUTURELIST(DDR VERSION) Challenge 13 -> 14
jane jana Light 4 -> 5
JET WORLD Light 4 -> 5
Let the beat hit em!(CLASSIC R&B STYLE) Heavy 10 -> 8
LOGICAL DASH Light 4 -> 5
LOVE LOVE SHINE Heavy 9 -> 10
MAX 300 Standard 12 -> 13
MAX 300 (Super-Max-Me Mix) Standard 13 -> 14
MIDNIGHT SPECIAL Standard 9 -> 10, Heavy 10 -> 12
MOONSTER Heavy 12 -> 13
MY SUMMER LOVE Heavy 12 -> 11
PARANOIA EVOLUTION Heavy 12 -> 13
Poseidon Heavy 12 -> 13
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME Heavy 9 -> 8
SAKURA Heavy 13 -> 14
Secret Rendez-vous Standard 7 -> 6
The Least 100sec Heavy 12 -> 13
TOMORROW Heavy 10 -> 11
TRIP MACHINE CLIMAX Heavy 12 -> 13
TSUGARU Heavy 12 -> 13
Under the Sky Standard 5 -> 6
Unreal Standard 12 -> 13
Xepher Heavy 13 -> 14

Bonus: Please look at the S-BEG chart for Love Is The Power Reborn and tell me how this is an X-scale 1.

Post #200 · Posted at 2021-02-04 01:53:36pm 3.2 years ago

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For the nth time, I strongly believe that Sakura Sunrise S-Heavy should be a 13. And if someone disagrees with me, I would like an explanation.
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