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Post #21 · Posted at 2009-09-30 11:56:36am 14.5 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
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Yep, a complete, lazy copy/paste of the original song's excellent step chart. Except some idiot didn't realize that, hey, this is a different song and these steps are clearly going to nothing!

So, in my step chart rating book, -50 for lazy copy/paste, -49 for not even making an attempt to adapt the steps to the new song, for an overall score of 1/100. If you want to play those steps where they were supposed to go, just play the original.

I guess I was a little harsh, but geez, thinking about what they could have done, and what they did, I can't believe they did that.
Hey, if you want the things you're hitting to follow the music, you should be playing IIDX. DDR isn't about following the music, it's about having fun.
At least, that's what I've been told by several people here.

Oh, and it's probably a case similar to the new Dynamite Rave. They have the song done, but not the steps, so they just tossed it in with the wrong steps and they'll fix it later.
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Post #22 · Posted at 2009-09-30 02:23:31pm 14.5 years ago

Offline Oni-91
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Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3445-5569-17913DS Friend Code: 008736577880
"Ambivalent Viennetta"
Quote: Kyzentun
Quote: Arctic Wolves
Yep, a complete, lazy copy/paste of the original song's excellent step chart. Except some idiot didn't realize that, hey, this is a different song and these steps are clearly going to nothing!

So, in my step chart rating book, -50 for lazy copy/paste, -49 for not even making an attempt to adapt the steps to the new song, for an overall score of 1/100. If you want to play those steps where they were supposed to go, just play the original.

I guess I was a little harsh, but geez, thinking about what they could have done, and what they did, I can't believe they did that.
Hey, if you want the things you're hitting to follow the music, you should be playing IIDX. DDR isn't about following the music, it's about having fun.
At least, that's what I've been told by several people here.
Yes, but these steps are completely off. There's a difference between making creative steps and making stuff that goes to nothing.
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Post #23 · Posted at 2009-10-05 06:10:21am 14.5 years ago

Offline T-14
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So before I buy this I have a few questions. I don't yet have the original DDRS as I just got my Touch today, do I need to get it for this to work? Is it it's own game or just an expansion? Thanks.
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Post #24 · Posted at 2009-10-05 07:46:18am 14.5 years ago

Offline finalfan2cwiz
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It's a seperate game Smile you do NOT need to get S for it to work

Post #25 · Posted at 2009-10-05 08:14:39am 14.5 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
S+ is now being sold in Japan for a special price of 115 Yen until October 12th.

No word yet on any differences from the US version.

Post #26 · Posted at 2009-10-05 10:41:54am 14.5 years ago

Offline jch02140
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From what I see, there are not much differences beside the banners for some of the Japanese songs are in Japanese text.... I think they have both English and Japanese banners stored in the DLC files since when you changed your iPhone/iPod system language setting, the banner (so as the game) will shows in the language according to the system preference.

Bump: DDR Wii banners in standard AC banner shape.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/1998Sparky2006.png
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/IWANTYOURLOVEDarwinRemix.png
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/MessWithMyEmotions.png
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/OpenYourEyes.png
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/thebeat.png

Post #27 · Posted at 2009-10-05 11:43:46pm 14.5 years ago

Offline cali_surfer_788
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they did the same lame copy and past job with that memories remix.

Post #28 · Posted at 2009-10-19 12:29:39am 14.5 years ago

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"cold weather season♪"
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they did the same lame copy and past job with that memories remix.
it called Rescue Me, not Memories Remix :-P
anyway has anyone said/talked about the characters able to change colors(from X AC)?
proof:
[youtube]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Eg2gq9NvyUM&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Eg2gq9NvyUM&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/youtube]

Post #29 · Posted at 2009-10-19 01:14:01am 14.5 years ago

Offline Silver-007
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Based on that video, I'd guess that between the step teams for X and HP2, HP2's won out.
コナミオリジナル曲で好きなのが一つもなかった(´Д`)

Post #30 · Posted at 2009-10-19 01:22:06am 14.5 years ago

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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
That's definitely\ not an HP2-style chart.

Post #31 · Posted at 2009-10-19 01:42:51am 14.5 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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Quote: Pie-kun
That's definitely\ not an HP2-style chart.

This. Notice how it follows a pattern, the freezes work out like some thought was put into them, and there aren't random steps to nothing. These are things we didn't see in HP2 charts.
http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif

Post #32 · Posted at 2009-10-19 01:44:58am 14.5 years ago

Offline Silver-007
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There are several broken patterns, and some pretty stupid freeze abuse. It looks a lot like a chart made by someone on the HP2 team, just without any "these were supposed to be Wiimote-shake" notes. They removed the Wiimote from the dance pad mode for HP3, didn't they?
Either way, it's a disgusting chart.
コナミオリジナル曲で好きなのが一つもなかった(´Д`)

Post #33 · Posted at 2009-10-19 01:55:36am 14.5 years ago

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"cold weather season♪"
here a clearly view of the chart :-P
[youtube]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/XHy5zOVA_7g&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/XHy5zOVA_7g&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/youtube]
thanks neodude

Post #34 · Posted at 2009-10-19 03:09:49am 14.5 years ago

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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Quote: Silver-007
There are several broken patterns, and some pretty stupid freeze abuse. It looks a lot like a chart made by someone on the HP2 team, just without any "these were supposed to be Wiimote-shake" notes. They removed the Wiimote from the dance pad mode for HP3, didn't they?
Either way, it's a disgusting chart.

The freeze arrow abuse is noting like you see on HP2. The HP2 charts had freeze arrows that went to absolutely nothing, they would just be randomly placed, often in the middle of 8th streams. This song's freeze arrows clearly go to the vocals, and never really cause any awkwardness. Take the section just before the chorus where there are freeze arrows coupled with 16th notes that go to the vocals. JUST BELIEVE has a part just like that in the middle, and the way they place the steps make it a double-stepping nightmare. This song, however, utilizes it perfectly without the need for double-stepping.

I assume by "broken patterns" you mean the 4th-8th...8th-4th patterns during the verse. Those are actually really fun spins, a great place to do some freestyling for sure. And they definitely look deliberate. I can't really think of any HP2 chart that looked like it intentionally used spins, or really did spins that actually worked.

I concede to you that the chart is too easy for the song, but then again, it is supposed to have an oni according to the PS3 trailer.\

Post #35 · Posted at 2009-10-19 05:39:15pm 14.4 years ago

Offline jch02140
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Here aer the sky graphics used for the sky change feature in S+... Not sure if the time are right...

Late Morning to Early Afternoon (9AM - 4PM)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/Sky-1.png

Late Afternoon (5PM - 7PM)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/Sky-2.png

Night (8PM - 3AM)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/Sky-3.png

Early Morning (4AM - 8AM)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/jch02140/Sky-4.png

Post #36 · Posted at 2009-10-20 12:02:52am 14.4 years ago

Offline darknight06
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HP2 had very technical spins in a LOT of it's charts. Big example would be Closer To Your Heart, which in all actuality was NOTHING but really tricky spins and side turn crossover streams 90% of the time. Other examples would be Umbrella, Feel Together, and Scramble. That game REALLY wanted you to turn away from the screen a lot, and that's fine for someone who can do spins like that on a regular, but it sucks if you become worthless at DDR the moment your back turns.

Another thing, is that the majority of HP2 required the hand markers to be on in order for the charts to make any sort of sense. There were a couple of exceptions IMO, that being Into Your Heart and Kyoka Suigetsu Row among the few. (this is why I was able to call Into Your Heart making it into X aside from being in that trailer, the foot chart was too good) There were also some stinkers irregardless of how you played them as well, looking at you Somehow You Found Me and I Want Your Love. Aside from those and a couple other exceptions that I haven't mentioned, the charts worked a lot better IMO then they're given credit for. That is, when played the way they were obviously meant to be played.

Post #37 · Posted at 2009-10-20 12:23:30am 14.4 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
I've played with hands and still had a lot of trouble with double-stepping and stuff, even when spinning. I think most of it was caused by the step chart artists not really paying attention to the actual patterns of the steps.

There are a few exceptions, like you said, I thought INTO YOUR HEART is a good chart.

Post #38 · Posted at 2009-10-20 12:33:27am 14.4 years ago

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irregardless

http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif

Post #39 · Posted at 2009-11-21 01:22:35am 14.4 years ago

Offline finalfan2cwiz
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Sorry for the bump....but any idea of when the new songpacks are gonna hit the usa?

Post #40 · Posted at 2009-11-21 02:20:09am 14.4 years ago

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Not really. Just a note as well, the game is 99 cents until November 30th.
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