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Post #61 · Posted at 2008-12-28 04:58:06pm 15.3 years ago

Offline Kon
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"OMG KON!"
You want to know what I love about this lawsuit... DJMAX was totally original, and not once did I feel it felt like beatmania, or did it resemble it (I mean I can see how the setup looks like it, but gameplay is completely different).

Post #62 · Posted at 2008-12-29 04:05:33am 15.3 years ago

Offline DJjeff
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">Sad"
It's like everytime another company tries their hand at making a successful music game that everyone might or will love, Konami has to step in and ruin it for everyone. Roxor and ITG are gone because of them, Activision and Harmonix almost lost to them, Andamiro was in danger long ago, and now Pentavision and the DJ MAX Series are in danger. And it doesn't even look anything like IIDX at all! Konami seriously has got to stop hogging the music game spotlight and let other companies try their hands at music games. Konami doesn't have to be THE ONLY ONE with successful music game franchises. They need to seriously leave other companies alone and give them a chance. At this point, in my opinion. Konami's reputation is dwindling. If they keep this up, Konami will be the only ones with music games, and thats not playing fair. Whats next? Stepmania? Seriously Konami, cut the bulls#$% and stop doing this. It's getting to the point where no company will be allowed to make a music game without konami interfering.
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Post #63 · Posted at 2008-12-29 05:55:01am 15.3 years ago

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"Let's get this movin'"
Quote: jbean3535
Andamiro....
Roxor.....
Amuseworld...
Harmonix/MTV/Viacom...
Pentavision....


Monopoly much? You can PATENT the way a game is run. Thats like trying to patent the first person shooter. If they had issues with the games, they should have taken care of it when the problems 1st started aka, when the games came out.
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Post #64 · Posted at 2008-12-29 07:49:10am 15.3 years ago

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If Konami is going after Pentavision now..
I wonder what they'll do after Activision releases DJ Hero

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Post #65 · Posted at 2008-12-29 09:47:14am 15.3 years ago

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Quote: kwangjae
If Konami is going after Pentavision now..
I wonder what they'll do after Activision releases DJ Hero

Activision is probably paying them off, just like they are for Guitar Hero 3 and World Tour... they decided that simply bribing Konami into silence was more economical than fighting off a lawsuit.
Keep clear... fat man dancing! Seventeen stone and grooving with the best of them Smile

Post #66 · Posted at 2008-12-31 11:51:02pm 15.3 years ago

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U1's going to eat Pentavision.Laughing Out Loud

Post #67 · Posted at 2009-01-01 12:35:50am 15.3 years ago

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I really hope this wont go through, I just saw the thread and died a little bit inside.
I've always liked Konami, but ofcourse I've enjoyed the other music games too, so when ITG got crossed off the list+this crap with DJM I really don't see the point of following Konamis' road anymore, and seeing myself as a "victim" living in Europe having to wait a to get what the rest of the world have gotten and cleared a year ago for almost nothing but a copypasta doesnt really increase Konamis' reputation from my point of view.
I want to be able to select from different games in the same genre. I want to play both ITG and DDR. It's like Coke and Pepsi or whatever.
Pentavision>Konamis' reason.

Time to let the music game flower bloom from the branch of the Konami tree. :(

Post #68 · Posted at 2009-06-26 02:18:13am 14.8 years ago

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This only further increases my hatred for the music game mogul that is Konami. They are unwilling to risk competition with other, similar music game makers because they are afraid of the economic prospects of competition. In fact, competition might actually be good for the industry; it might bring more attention to the genre and attract new customers. They are screwing themselves if they let this go through.
If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Post #69 · Posted at 2009-06-26 02:30:04am 14.8 years ago

Offline DJjeff
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">Sad"
Well, Technika is finally released. There's no news on whats going on with the lawsuit. MB konami dropped it?
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Post #70 · Posted at 2009-06-26 03:06:03am 14.8 years ago

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What I wonder is if there is a completely different department within Konami that decides to sue. I don't want to believe that the Bemani dev teams are the ones bringing the lawsuits up. Also, keep in mind with music based games, there's often hardware involved and it's much easier to patent hardware than software, hence Konami can go bananas with suing with all their Bemani titles.

Post #71 · Posted at 2009-06-26 03:27:46am 14.8 years ago

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"No."
Lawsuits generally take a while to go through. Compromising, deals, ect...
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Post #72 · Posted at 2009-07-31 04:39:09am 14.7 years ago

Offline Danny Astro
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Something must of happened that we don't know about. Pentavision released it's Muse-On controller that by the way looks exactly like a IIDX controller with an extra key. Then Konami introduces hold notes in IIDX17. I'd love to think that they two have reached an agreement and are exchanging ideas. Hope their not taking jabs at each other.

Post #73 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:23:44pm 12.7 years ago

Offline liamsthing
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i swear konami is suing friggin everyone...next it will be whoever created mozarc, maybe they are just worried their bemani games wont get as much attention when something better comes out O.o just a thought

Post #74 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:25:36pm 12.7 years ago

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Post #75 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:31:09pm 12.7 years ago

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"."
Wonderful 2 years later...life is good.

Post #76 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:33:37pm 12.7 years ago

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yes but just wait untill some new company brings an awsome music game out, konami will find something wrong

Post #77 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:35:31pm 12.7 years ago

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And we'll be depending on you to remind us about it two years after it dies down.

Post #78 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:37:17pm 12.7 years ago

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yep

Post #79 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:47:09pm 12.7 years ago

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Post #80 · Posted at 2011-07-05 07:48:43pm 12.7 years ago

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leave the guy alone, he's on the verge of creating the next best game in rhythm game history
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