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Post #21 · Posted at 2008-12-25 03:35:09am 15.2 years ago

Offline CoreyBlaze
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Quote: jbean3535
Andamiro....
Roxor.....
Amuseworld...
Harmonix/MTV/Viacom...
Pentavision....


Monopoly much? You can PATENT the way a game is run. Thats like trying to patent the first person shooter. If they had issues with the games, they should have taken care of it when the problems 1st started aka, when the games came out.

I get what you mean, but it seems that in the music game world each game seems to be a different "genre". Like, if you invent a new musical instrument and then I come with a new instrument:

The same you made with two or three extra or differently placed holes.

Post #22 · Posted at 2008-12-25 03:41:20am 15.2 years ago

Offline DJ Tomoe
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So, Konami will sue: 5th Strike?
Oh,wow. There's 5?
I tought it was just 3. Confused
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Post #23 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:02:54am 15.2 years ago

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Hahaha oh god.

Post #24 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:03:36am 15.2 years ago

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=(

I hope DJ MAX Fever will still get released.
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Post #25 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:05:52am 15.2 years ago

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Oh Konami ... Thta's why I love you so much (period.)

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Post #26 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:22:41am 15.2 years ago

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Post #27 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:24:30am 15.2 years ago

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Quote: Xepher2010
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Don't wanna release IIDX outside of Japan? THEN LET SOMEONE ELSE FUCKING MAKE A DJ GAME!
Um..DJ Hero
Scratch: The Ultimate DJ

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Post #28 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:42:28am 15.2 years ago

Offline Xavious
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I think Konami fears friendly competition. Like if someone makes a music and rhythm game better than they do they'd be obliged to actually put in some friggin' effort. I'm surprised they haven't tried suing London Studio over SingStar yet.

Konami Executive: "Ah yes, Karaoke games! Don't we own all the rights to those in any way shape or form? Granted our attempts at bringing the genre to Europe was pitiful at best but we can't let another company make money from our short-sightedness."

So... Rock Band/Guitar Hero up next Konami?

This is the only reason I hate patents. It throttles creativity because it can be so difficult to make something like something else and improve on the genre when you're walking on eggshells as to whether it violates any patents.
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Post #29 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:46:01am 15.2 years ago

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They wouldn't because Sony'd absolutely slaughter them.
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Post #30 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:49:09am 15.2 years ago

Offline CoreyBlaze
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They wouldn't because Sony'd absolutely slaughter them.

Didn't some random company won that Dual Shock lawsuit against them?

Post #31 · Posted at 2008-12-25 04:51:41am 15.2 years ago

Offline AnxD
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Quote: neodude237
So, Konami will sue: 5th Strike?
It was a reference to SF3: Third Strike so no, not 5th strike.

Post #32 · Posted at 2008-12-25 05:00:52am 15.2 years ago

Offline Bolt-Edge
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"No."
Well, Konami's patents are just so vague that they can do anything with them. I don't find the fact that they're suing is ridiculous; I just find the fact that they CAN sue is.

Technika is actually a pretty cool concept. It sucks that it's going to be Konami'd
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Post #33 · Posted at 2008-12-25 06:01:39am 15.2 years ago

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What bugs me about this is that Konami waited when DJ MAX got popular to sue them. It really makes it look like that Konami is the only one who can make a DJ based game and no one can do anything about it. How about instead of waiting for a game that’s better then Konami’s game, how about putting some damn effort to it.Surprised I’m not a fan of DJ MAX, but this is a dick of a move.Evil

Sorry for the rant.

Post #34 · Posted at 2008-12-25 06:03:41am 15.2 years ago

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"Ready!?"
Crackin' DJ didn't get screwed over so :\ but then again Crackin' DJ was pretty unique.

Post #35 · Posted at 2008-12-25 06:23:50am 15.2 years ago

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So, Konami will sue: 5th Strike?
It was a reference to SF3: Third Strike so no, not 5th strike.

In that case, it would be

SUPER KONAMI WILL SUE II TURBO (or X for Japan)

(Oh, might as well make an HD Remix too)

Post #36 · Posted at 2008-12-25 08:37:26am 15.2 years ago

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Konami is not a GAME OVERLORD..so they should stop suing every company that can beat them..
A decade of pure dancing..not only on the pad but the centerstage itself

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Post #37 · Posted at 2008-12-25 10:03:52am 15.2 years ago

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Quote: Ashura96
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Don't wanna release IIDX outside of Japan? THEN LET SOMEONE ELSE FUCKING MAKE A DJ GAME!
Um..DJ Hero

That's going to get shot down when it is released and you know it! Devil

Doubt it. Activision will pay them off to keep silent, just like they did with Guitar Hero. Konami's just as greedy as ATVI anymore, so it works out.
Keep clear... fat man dancing! Seventeen stone and grooving with the best of them Smile

Post #38 · Posted at 2008-12-25 12:08:17pm 15.2 years ago

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let's make a thread "KONAMI sue-ing history" Laughing Out Loud

i love DJMAX very much (musics only, though...) no SUE!!!
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Post #39 · Posted at 2008-12-25 12:10:38pm 15.2 years ago

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"~ The evolution has begun ! ~"
I wonder why does konami sue everything? Annoyed

so.. who's next?

Post #40 · Posted at 2008-12-25 12:14:12pm 15.2 years ago

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"MAGGLE"
I don't know what is going on in the unstable mind that is konami. This one of those times that I was proud growing up
with Capcom and Namco games.

I'll be rooting for Pentavision. Perhaps konami losing this lawsuit will knock some sense into it (winning lawsuits might and will go to their ego and pride).
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