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Post #221 · Posted at 2022-06-22 05:07:40am 1.7 years ago

Offline Bananapajama27
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i was expecting a new western licensed song but it seems like my guess was wrong
anyway why is Megalovania an Asian cab exclusive song

Post #222 · Posted at 2022-06-22 05:31:47am 1.7 years ago

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why is Megalovania an Asian cab exclusive song

NA cabs haven't received upgrade kits to A3 yet, as far as I can tell right now.

Post #223 · Posted at 2022-06-22 01:52:33pm 1.7 years ago

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so, where does ReiwaChallenge rank among the worst official charts of all time? it has to be up there
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Post #224 · Posted at 2022-06-22 01:54:03pm 1.7 years ago

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Well, it's not as bad as DEGRS. But, I would say it's Top 5.
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Post #225 · Posted at 2022-06-22 03:17:40pm 1.7 years ago

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Reiwa Heavy -10
Reiwa Challenge -18

That's a hell of a jump lol

Post #226 · Posted at 2022-06-22 05:09:17pm 1.7 years ago

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It ties with ΔMAX for highest jump between difficulties. (ΔMAX Light is a 5, Standard is a 13.)
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Post #227 · Posted at 2022-06-22 06:10:17pm 1.7 years ago

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Only for Japan, TDX:U, Asia and Korea:
「アユミ☆マジカルショータイム / キノシタ feat.音街ウナ」
「ウサテイ / ビートまりお(COOL&CREATE)」
「患部で止まってすぐ溶ける~狂気の優曇華院 / ARM(IOSYS)」
「WARNING×WARNING×WARNING / 暁Records」
「MEGALOVANIA / Toby Fox」
The licenses being unavailable for MDX:U is unconfirmed at this time. When A20 upgrade kits for the U region were installed, the only unavailable A20 license was The Light. I certainly don't expect Megalovania to have licensing issues.

Post #228 · Posted at 2022-06-22 06:28:11pm 1.7 years ago

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so, where does ReiwaChallenge rank among the worst official charts of all time? it has to be up there

As someone who doesn't really understand what makes a chart good or bad (outside of ultra gimmicky charts like Dance aROUNDHeavy ), what makes this chart so bad besides being extremely hard with jumps?
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Post #229 · Posted at 2022-06-22 06:51:26pm 1.7 years ago

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• The 24th streams during the chorus
• The insane gap in difficulty from Expert
• That one 32nd note drill
• The 16th jacks at the end
• Its entire existence being completely unnecessary in the first place.

Yeah, it's that bad.
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Post #230 · Posted at 2022-06-22 06:55:15pm 1.7 years ago

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Reiwa CSP is an all time freaking joke. Excited to play it.

Post #231 · Posted at 2022-06-22 07:03:42pm 1.7 years ago

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Quote: MENDES
so, where does ReiwaChallenge rank among the worst official charts of all time? it has to be up there

As someone who doesn't really understand what makes a chart good or bad (outside of ultra gimmicky charts like Dance aROUNDHeavy ), what makes this chart so bad besides being extremely hard with jumps?
How fast it expects you to get from P1 left to P2 right and vice versa is part of it. There being no smooth way to double step or foot switch parts of it you're not going to want to spin on is another. It's around 30 seconds into the twitter video where it falls apart. The opening part is tricky but not unreasonable and a seasoned doubles player will know how to do it, but after that the actual note placement just falls apart with no good way to transition your feet between patterns plus 16th jump jacks. Patterns like you see at 56 seconds in, like that stuff can be done 100% alternating if you're set up right but you're actually walking into it backwards from how you would want to be facing. If you stop the video on each individual stream, whether its the 16ths or the 12ths, yeah you can alternate all of them but they don't flow into each other in a way that works out for the player. Like at 1:15, the jumps into P2 left up down, P1 right up down. Take the jumps out and it's easy enough, start with your left foot on P2 left and alternate from there, but the jumps don't set that up so you either have to spin or treat the P2 left after the P1 right/P2 left jump as another jump to move your feet into position to do it but a jump into 16ths doesn't flow well either so what you're left doing is a foot switch that leaves one of your feet off the pad for an awkward amount of time and doesn't feel smooth. It's not impossible, it's just not fun. Then after that you have to do P2 left up P1 right as 16ths, which requires a really awkward stretch of your right foot to go around your left leg which is in the way of a direct transition from P1 down to P2 up. Then you're back into more of the really fast P1 left to P2 right and vice versa strings, a bunch of jumps, then jacks while holding freezes that seem to want you to spin.

Hard patterns can be really cool, and crossover runs in doubles that flow into each other properly, either by setting up crossovers to un-cross you or by positioning notes to foot switch off of, can be really satisfying to pull off, but having to find ways to reset yourself between sets of arrows and some times even in the middle of them isn't.

Edit: apparently the parts I thought were 12ths are 32nds? I'm bad at telling green arrows apart from other green arrows, sorry.
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Post #232 · Posted at 2022-06-22 07:09:18pm 1.7 years ago

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so, where does ReiwaChallenge rank among the worst official charts of all time? it has to be up there

Among the bottom tier, because it's a work of art. It's something that Hudson would be proud of.
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Post #233 · Posted at 2022-06-22 09:10:19pm 1.7 years ago

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The Phquase song is the best song of the mix so far. Sounds a lot like something TAG would make.

Reiwa Challenge is bad, but it's not worst of all time bad.

Edit: I was referring to the singles chart, I didn't see the doubles yet and I don't have a good grasp on reading doubles charts.

Post #234 · Posted at 2022-06-22 09:52:05pm 1.7 years ago

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so, where does ReiwaChallenge rank among the worst official charts of all time? it has to be up there

Among the bottom tier, because it's a work of art. It's something that Hudson would be proud of.

hudson soft?

Post #235 · Posted at 2022-06-22 10:48:31pm 1.7 years ago

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Am I the only one who think DDR A3 offer more new things they didn't explore for like a decade or more? Gimmicks like DANCE aROUND, Shock Arrows for non-Challenge charts, Visually overlapping freeze notes, dialogue charting, and dumpstream? While some maybe didn't quite land the mark, but I think it's the start of KONAMI potentially doing more unique stuff down the line. And I'm totally down for more like this.

Also probably a hot take, but Reiwa Challenge SP and DP is not that bad of chart if we see it from perspective of other dance rhythm game like Pump. Those high-speed crossovers are definitely for brackets. But what kinda hurt the chart is how timing window works in DDR and how strict it is compared to the neighboring game. If we do compare it with DDR-style metas however, this by far would be something bad that comes once in a blue moon.

Also with how they are integrating new stuff like this, I just hope they have the balls to drop a 20 soon.
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Post #236 · Posted at 2022-06-22 11:09:12pm 1.7 years ago

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Reiwa is the second worst 18 of all time juuuuust behind DEGRS for me. And there is some RIGHT royal shit in that folder.

Shoutouts to the dumbasses calling it an ITG chart, I don't think an ITG charter in 2022 would be caught dead releasing that and if they did they'd probably score nil on anything it was submitted to

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so, where does ReiwaChallenge rank among the worst official charts of all time? it has to be up there

Among the bottom tier, because it's a work of art. It's something that Hudson would be proud of.

hudson soft?

I assume KAZE.573. KAC finalist, guy who beat Boss Rush SN2, shitposter extraordinaire.
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Post #237 · Posted at 2022-06-23 05:55:12am 1.7 years ago

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Am I the only one who think DDR A3 offer more new things they didn't explore for like a decade or more? Gimmicks like DANCE aROUND, Shock Arrows for non-Challenge charts, Visually overlapping freeze notes, dialogue charting, and dumpstream? While some maybe didn't quite land the mark, but I think it's the start of KONAMI potentially doing more unique stuff down the line. And I'm totally down for more like this.
Seconded.
For whatever reason, A3 so far is the mix where someone in charge hit the "fuck it" button and is now supplying charts that shatter all previously established conventions.
ReiwaChallenge really just snuck in to be the hardest non-Touhou, non-Vocaloid, non-game (Megalovania) license in DDR and I find that hysterical. Equally as hysterical to me is how some seethe over it, ranging from wanting the person who charted it fired to demanding an apology from Konami to even hoping the license for the song being in DDR expires sooner.

They are what they are: charts that I, at least, will be laughing at rather than wincing at.

Other than that and loving Qwerty and stellar rain, I look forward to the Jubeat songs and HP revivals tomorrow. That's an additional 14 songs for A3!
Music is always running in my mind... Everyday, songs old and new come to mind.
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I wonder how a DJ Hero-esque mix of an AFRONOVA medley and Fascination MAXX would sound...

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Post #238 · Posted at 2022-06-23 08:12:25am 1.7 years ago

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Well... about ReiwaChallenge I'll copying my comment on some YT video:
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Why do you need level 19-""20"" songs?? This is Konami responses to anyone who complain that every song needs a HARDER AF Challenge or "make technical/stamina drain/ITG-like charts" comments. What i can say?? This chart is PERFECT. LMFAO
Change my mind.

Post #239 · Posted at 2022-06-23 12:56:01pm 1.7 years ago

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Nobody cares enough to change your mind, you're just wrong if you think this is an own or something towards people wanting harder content. Especially considering some of the 17s and 18s they've put out lately are fire. Hell, Deep tenDon Reflex got a 17 in the exact same update and it's fire. Bi Challenge 18 is a joke chart but it's also pretty good outside of the joke. This is just bad because "haha bad funny". None of us are mad. We are just disappointed.

Honestly I think since Expert is a 10, you could give Reiwa a 13 or a 14 and it would slap. Hell, the song is one of the better licenses the series has had!
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Post #240 · Posted at 2022-06-23 01:20:22pm 1.7 years ago

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