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Post #61 · Posted at 2022-03-03 02:57:14pm 2.1 years ago

Offline E24K_Lawson
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Last updated: 2022-03-03 08:56pm
Quote: Encisso0720
Good afternoon guys,

In view of all the messages we have received for the decision made yesterday, regarding the removal of all content for non-compliance with the rules given from the beginning:

• It is vital to emphasize that although the license used from the beginning supported the distribution and publication of the content, our work rules were clear. This project does NOT intend to use SM Arcades in public places, nor replace the use of KONAMI Official Arcades in public places; it is only intended for home use.

• We understand it is difficult to control the use that each one of you gives it, but we just want to do things right and continue to share with you something that has never been seen in this way before. Just step the rules.

• I want to apologize to all those who were involved in a series of heavy messages, as well as those who may have been offended by them. Also, for the decision taken abruptly to eliminate the content of the project.

• I want to apologize to all those people who, from the beginning, have offered their support and optimism in the realization of this project. You are pretty important to me. You are the main focus of this project, as I have always told you, both publicly and in private messages. I know you were affected by this decision, so we will continue to work to earn your trust again.

• Considering the number of messages received by you, my team and I have decided to desist from the termination of the project. GitHub content has been partially reactivated publicly. It only contains the November Update, since, apparently, this corresponds to the update used in the video and images broadcast. Information about the following updates of the Next Phase Series will be delivered soon.

• I am talking with my team members to determine the best way to proceed, we hope to bring you good news soon and compensate you for what happened.

I just want to thank all those who took the time to write to us thanking us for all our effort and dedication to the project. Thanks to you we hope to continue the project, regardless of the negative messages we have received.

With this, I thank you all, please stop the hate messages between anyone or any other, whoever you are, please. With the desire of hate we will not achieve anything, it is not what we intend.

We will back soon.

Thank you for your time, and sorry for the inconvenience.
Godspeed to you and everyone else on the team for not giving up on this amazing project, Encisso.

I just have one question. After confirming my preferred in-game options, I keep getting this error message: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FM7uwE8VgAk2cp8?format=jpg&name=large

If you could get back to me as soon as you can to let me know what I have to do to resolve this issue, I would greatly appreciate it.

UPDATE: Everything works fine and dandy now, thanks to Scrap Rabbit.
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Post #62 · Posted at 2022-03-09 04:22:26am 2.1 years ago

Offline Prod_Jacob329
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Its nice to hear that the 3d characters+stages are back in development! Im eager for the new updates (^_^)

Also, can i have permission to use them for my ddr a20 plus theme? thanks! :D
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Post #63 · Posted at 2022-03-11 04:03:12pm 2.1 years ago

Offline fayescarlet
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Quote: Encisso0720
GI just want to thank all those who took the time to write to us thanking us for all our effort and dedication to the project. Thanks to you we hope to continue the project, regardless of the negative messages we have received.

With this, I thank you all, please stop the hate messages between anyone or any other, whoever you are, please. With the desire of hate we will not achieve anything, it is not what we intend.

We will back soon.

Thank you for your time, and sorry for the inconvenience.

I look forward to seeing if the project can truly come back to life. I'd love to make more edited cut-ins.

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You could still upload the cut-ins for people who use DancerVideos.
They aren't the characters you would expect lol. Specifically, they're Louis-Concent III:02 and Queen-Zukin:02, whose cut-ins I based off their alternate colors (since their cut-ins used their original colors).

I made my own edited cut-ins for Louis-Concent and Queen Zukin, I'd love to see yours and compare our works, if possible.

Post #64 · Posted at 2022-03-11 11:35:35pm 2.1 years ago

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Quote: fayescarlet
Quote: Encisso0720
GI just want to thank all those who took the time to write to us thanking us for all our effort and dedication to the project. Thanks to you we hope to continue the project, regardless of the negative messages we have received.

With this, I thank you all, please stop the hate messages between anyone or any other, whoever you are, please. With the desire of hate we will not achieve anything, it is not what we intend.

We will back soon.

Thank you for your time, and sorry for the inconvenience.

I look forward to seeing if the project can truly come back to life. I'd love to make more edited cut-ins.

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Quote: DDR_Oshawott
You could still upload the cut-ins for people who use DancerVideos.
They aren't the characters you would expect lol. Specifically, they're Louis-Concent III:02 and Queen-Zukin:02, whose cut-ins I based off their alternate colors (since their cut-ins used their original colors).

I made my own edited cut-ins for Louis-Concent and Queen Zukin, I'd love to see yours and compare our works, if possible.

That would look awesome, i would also like to see the cut ins too!
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Post #65 · Posted at 2022-03-12 12:21:37am 2.1 years ago

Offline fayescarlet
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I created a large set of edited cut-ins for the theme, which can be found here: https://github.com/fayescarlet64/Edited-Cut-Ins/releases/tag/Release

If the project really does pick up again, I plan on continuing this project as well, and maybe even improve the ones I already edited.

Post #66 · Posted at 2022-03-12 01:45:13am 2.1 years ago

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Quote: fayescarlet
I created a large set of edited cut-ins for the theme, which can be found here: https://github.com/fayescarlet64/Edited-Cut-Ins/releases/tag/Release

If the project really does pick up again, I plan on continuing this project as well, and maybe even improve the ones I already edited.

I didn't even know these were available. They look amazing! Downloading as we speak.

Post #67 · Posted at 2022-03-12 03:14:56am 2.1 years ago

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Quote: fayescarlet
I created a large set of edited cut-ins for the theme, which can be found here: https://github.com/fayescarlet64/Edited-Cut-Ins/releases/tag/Release

If the project really does pick up again, I plan on continuing this project as well, and maybe even improve the ones I already edited.

I didn't even know these were available. They look amazing! Downloading as we speak.

Thanks! I do hope I can pick up this project again, it was a lot of fun.

Post #68 · Posted at 2022-03-12 03:54:46am 2.1 years ago

Offline Prod_Jacob329
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Quote: fayescarlet
Quote: jgpena13
Quote: fayescarlet
I created a large set of edited cut-ins for the theme, which can be found here: https://github.com/fayescarlet64/Edited-Cut-Ins/releases/tag/Release

If the project really does pick up again, I plan on continuing this project as well, and maybe even improve the ones I already edited.

I didn't even know these were available. They look amazing! Downloading as we speak.

Thanks! I do hope I can pick up this project again, it was a lot of fun.

Yep, it was really fun. and where are the Enciso starlight xx patches? i need them as a reference to add the 3d characters+stages to my themes.
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Post #69 · Posted at 2022-03-12 05:35:23am 2.1 years ago

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Post #70 · Posted at 2022-03-12 09:54:53am 2.1 years ago

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Quote: Sigrev2
bruh...

Oops, sorry if i triggered something, since i need it for reference, my pc died and i lost the files for it.
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Post #71 · Posted at 2022-03-12 11:36:46pm 2.1 years ago

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Quote: Sigrev2
bruh...
Honest question as a fan. Why is it hard to approach a situation like this without any hostility, regardless of the amount of times that this question is asked by so many people? I have been in situations like these all the time when I work, and my team always keep our answer the same as always. I ask you because I have noticed that you in particular have been more hostile than any of the other developers on your XX team, even in your discord where I have seen the behavior become even worse. It just hurts to see a team that I thought was better than this become so aggressive over something that does not need to be a big deal in the first place. This wasn't even a question that was asked to the team directly. I just don't get it.

Post #72 · Posted at 2022-03-13 03:10:21am 2.1 years ago

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I’m hoping his “bruh” was because Encisso clearly doesn’t want the patches distributed anymore or they would be on GitHub, and not because Starlight was mentioned at all. Because if he’s going to act like this anytime the dancers and starlight are mentioned in the same post he should just leave, clearly this is not a good place for his mental health. They weren’t even asking for the dancers to be part of starlight, they wanted the files to use in another theme (which works, I used them minus the metrics.ini file to add them to the X3 vs 2nd Mix theme).
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Post #73 · Posted at 2022-03-13 03:27:27am 2.1 years ago

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Quote: n00b_saib0t
I’m hoping his “bruh” was because Encisso clearly doesn’t want the patches distributed anymore or they would be on GitHub, and not because Starlight was mentioned at all. Because if he’s going to act like this anytime the dancers and starlight are mentioned in the same post he should just leave, clearly this is not a good place for his mental health. They weren’t even asking for the dancers to be part of starlight, they wanted the files to use in another theme (which works, I used them minus the metrics.ini file to add them to the X3 vs 2nd Mix theme).

https://i.imgur.com/B72zRUT.jpg

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I'm not anti-XX, I think your StepMania theme is wonderful and probably the best out there. I just think the overstated drama is.... dramatic!

Cool, then keep it to yourself and stop thinking your opinion needs to be brought up every time.

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Whoa, chill. I was just tossing out a question. No need to get snappy. I didn't say anything about you guys being associated. Just that a lot of people in the server seem chill(clearly this isn't the case nowPuppy Face)I was just thinking of ways for something like this to not happen again...sheeshRoll Eyes
you weren't the one being addressed. you behaving like this won't win you any favors. this is an issue that has cropped up from multiple people across multiple websites and servers. to the point where it's become genuinely frustrating for the entire dev team when we have people in our dms trying to get us to make statements on things we have no association with.

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What did I literally just say? Guys this is enough. Points have been made, no more issues are needing to be discussed.
you are not a moderator and you do not get to comment on whether a thread can continue or not.

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Quote: Sigrev2
why do people keep explicitly bringing up xx with this shit
we are not associated with this project at all, and we do not have plans to change that in any way
people have been hounding the devs about this and it's getting to the point of absurdity - we're happy you enjoy starlight, but it's time to stop trying to connect dots that aren't even there

Quote: Sigrev2
you weren't the one being addressed. you behaving like this won't win you any favors. this is an issue that has cropped up from multiple people across multiple websites and servers. to the point where it's become genuinely frustrating for the entire dev team when we have people in our dms trying to get us to make statements on things we have no association with.

Quote: Sigrev2
you are not a moderator and you do not get to comment on whether a thread can continue or not.

Quote: Sigrev2
homie chill the fuck out
cute but you trying to use my statement telling people to chill on having actual meltdowns over stepmania dancing characters can't be applied to me voicing frustrations of a team routinely being hounded over said dancing characters, said team having no involvement in said characters. don't know what you're attempting to achieve with this one but i don't think it'll be coming off in your favor.

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DDR XX has nothing to do with this project. Quit bringing XX and the XX team into this please and quit asking us to do so.

Like, what is this? I don't care how many times it has been said. You say the answer you always have and move on or don't respond at all. It doesn't have to be like this.

Post #74 · Posted at 2022-03-13 04:04:11am 2.1 years ago

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So having been lurking the thread for a while now. I think mods should close the thread and we can all just wait until Encisso comes back with some good news, whenever that may be. It's just going to lead to more fighting and stuff.Confused Though I will say the way the XX team is handling this, things could be...better instead of raging at people that have no idea about any of this.

Stepmaina is a community driven engine/game and just looking outside in things don't look very...happy feeling community like they used to¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Post #75 · Posted at 2022-03-13 04:15:59am 2.1 years ago

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I will say that I did not handle the situation in a responsible manner, and for that I do apologize. It's been a very stressful last few months for myself, and seeing my fellow team members getting stressed out over things out of their control wasn't making it any better. Not saying that any of that is an excuse for my nonsense, because it isn't. But at least you can understand my headspace at the time. Hopefully you can accept my apology and know that the outburst was of my own activity and shouldn't reflect how the rest of the team operates. If this apology isn't good enough, then I would understand if you would want nothing to do with any previous or future dj vortivask antics.

Only thing I will comment on is this:
Quote: n00b_saib0t
I’m hoping his “bruh” was because Encisso clearly doesn’t want the patches distributed anymore or they would be on GitHub, and not because Starlight was mentioned at all. Because if he’s going to act like this anytime the dancers and starlight are mentioned in the same post he should just leave, clearly this is not a good place for his mental health. They weren’t even asking for the dancers to be part of starlight, they wanted the files to use in another theme (which works, I used them minus the metrics.ini file to add them to the X3 vs 2nd Mix theme).
Primarily because I just wanted to point and laugh at the thought of someone trying to play armchair psychiatrist here on Zenius of all places. I'm aware the user is here solely to get into arguments and stir up trouble - it's the unwritten rule of Zenius according to their signature, after all - so I'll take it with a grain of salt (maybe even a scosh of pepper).

Anyway, stan pop'n music. Space Dog forever.

Post #76 · Posted at 2022-03-13 04:43:29am 2.1 years ago

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Though I will say the way the XX team is handling this, things could be...better instead of raging at people that have no idea about any of this.
We are aware that we came off this way and it wasn't our intention. As we've stated, it's just been stressful for us as of late and not just because of this situation with Enciso's dancers. We haven't been handling this situation correctly at all and we discussed it amongst ourselves, coming to the conclusion that all we can do moving forward is handle this sort of thing as professionals, which we strived to do in the first place. Again, we apologize deeply for our behavior, just please try to understand we're all human and take time out of our daily lives to develop this project for the world to enjoy. It's not an excuse, but it's the only explanation I can give.

On behalf of the team, we promise to do better, and we hope you'll all give us another chance to show that we can. Please continue to support both DDR XX and the Enciso DanceStages and Characters project and, just for the time being, do so separately. Feel free to use their patches, as they worked hard to develop something great, as we sought out to do ourselves. We have no rules against modification of the theme, just don't come to us with issues regarding modifications, that's all we ask!

In the meantime, let's finally end this debacle once and for all and discuss these projects in their own threads or platforms.
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Post #77 · Posted at 2022-03-13 06:54:02am 2.1 years ago

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To be honest i suport bouth projects, XX and stages and dancing characters. I really admire everyone involved in the projects because they put a lot of effort and passion on it for the comunity and also mention being able to work with critisism and helping (spmething i couldn't say about myself).

I know bout project staff has ben under lot of pressure and strees and when that happends the worst sides of us could shows but we all make mistakes so i hope we as ZIV comunity can move foreward and return to a better situation just keep the amazing work and don't let the bad moments take the bes you guys. Cool

Post #78 · Posted at 2022-03-13 01:31:40pm 2.1 years ago

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Since a couple of my discord messages were posted here, I'd like to clarify that I am not affiliated with the XX project / Midflight Digital, and my comments do not reflect the opinions of the Midflight Digital team.

That said, I also agree that this thread should be deleted / locked since Encisso's project is un-cancelled, and it's just a drama pit at this point.
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