Post #1 · Posted at 2021-09-23 12:14:25am 2.5 years ago
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Has anyone completed a list (or at least began work on a list) of ITG songs with difficulty ratings translated into the X scale? Besides figuring in hands, and to a lesser extent mines, the process seems fairly straight-forward, although time consuming.
Unless this has already been done somewhere else, we can use this thread to debate difficulty ratings, and possibly compile a complete list. Perhaps even an entire translated simfile category.
Unless this has already been done somewhere else, we can use this thread to debate difficulty ratings, and possibly compile a complete list. Perhaps even an entire translated simfile category.
Post #2 · Posted at 2021-09-23 04:16:23am 2.5 years ago
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1-10 would basically convert like DDR did, but there’s talk to be had about which 8s are 10s and which are 11s, which 9s are 12s and which are 13s, and which 10s are 14s and 15s. ITG didn’t really have the issue DDR did with some 9s that could have been 10s so there wouldn’t really be 9s that are 14s. They also didn’t have the issue with over-rated 10s so no 10s that became 13s. Similarly it doesn’t have 8s that should have been 9s or 9s that should have been 8s either, so no issues with songs jumping up or down drastically there either (like Paranoia KCET being an 11 so basically reverting back to its original 8 rating after becoming a 9). Songs in general had more appropriate ratings in ITG.
I would say 11s are 16s, 12s are mostly 17s but some could be 18s, and 13s are 18s. Nothing official in ITG touches the 19s, ITG just didn’t have time to officially mature to that point. Like Pandemonium and Vertex^2 simply don’t do what the 19s do, they’re more in line with the hardest 18s. Summer definitely doesn’t touch 19s. And I wouldn’t really be upset if someone said some of the 12s could be 18s. Like Hardcore of the North and Determinator are up there in difficulty on the borderline for sure. Either could be fine but for an end user standpoint it is often better to go with the higher rating in that case.
I would say 11s are 16s, 12s are mostly 17s but some could be 18s, and 13s are 18s. Nothing official in ITG touches the 19s, ITG just didn’t have time to officially mature to that point. Like Pandemonium and Vertex^2 simply don’t do what the 19s do, they’re more in line with the hardest 18s. Summer definitely doesn’t touch 19s. And I wouldn’t really be upset if someone said some of the 12s could be 18s. Like Hardcore of the North and Determinator are up there in difficulty on the borderline for sure. Either could be fine but for an end user standpoint it is often better to go with the higher rating in that case.
Post #3 · Posted at 2021-09-23 03:54:37pm 2.5 years ago
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Sounds fair, and I agree with the conversion as a general rule, but I don't think the translation could work purely on a formula for all difficulties. The expert chart rating 9 can range anywhere from an X11/12 (such as in "Changes") to somewhere close to an X15 (like in "Touch Me" which is just pure 16th notes.) On the inverse, charts like Egoism 440 
definitely pass the ITG-scale 13. Lachryma might even pass a 14 with how similar it is to some older ITG stamina charts.
The real main reason I was inspired to start this thread is because I could never decide if Vertex on hard is an X14 or X15. I was able to pass it long before I could pass Black Jackal, which is X15, but Vertex feels too stream-y to be X14. Any opinions or comparisons?
definitely pass the ITG-scale 13. Lachryma might even pass a 14 with how similar it is to some older ITG stamina charts.The real main reason I was inspired to start this thread is because I could never decide if Vertex on hard is an X14 or X15. I was able to pass it long before I could pass Black Jackal, which is X15, but Vertex feels too stream-y to be X14. Any opinions or comparisons?
Post #4 · Posted at 2021-09-23 07:08:52pm 2.5 years ago
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Yeah that’s what I was trying to say about the 19s. Nothing in ITG is close to them so I don’t think we would be converting anything from ITG above an 18. And what 9s became 11s outside of the ones that were 8s before being rerated to 9? Like I said, DDR had a lot of misrated 8s and 9s which lead to some reratings that seem inconsistent. ITG doesn’t really have that issue with 8s and 9s.
For Vertex Hard I would say it’s probably a 14. It’s difficulty was in the gimmick and once you learn the tempo changes it’s easier than most other 10s (the 15s) that require stamina.
For Vertex Hard I would say it’s probably a 14. It’s difficulty was in the gimmick and once you learn the tempo changes it’s easier than most other 10s (the 15s) that require stamina.
Post #5 · Posted at 2021-09-23 09:28:21pm 2.5 years ago
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Nothing official in ITG touches the 19s, ITG just didn’t have time to officially mature to that point.
I can see Pandemonium being an 18, but I imagine Determinator, Summer Speedy Mix, and Vertex 2 would all be rated 19 in DDR.
Post #6 · Posted at 2021-09-23 10:01:47pm 2.5 years ago
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ITG9 seems to be the default rating for everything on expert. Touch Me's expert chart (while still being an ITG9) is fairly comparable to EDSM's 
chart (X14) in terms of BPM and techniques, but noticeably denser. Personally I'd say that's enough to classify it as an X15.
Meanwhile, Changes is also an ITG9, however the song is roughly as long as Touch Me while having about 3/5ths of the total steps. In a couple of ways, the technicality of the chart reminds me of Sayonara Trip's chart, rated an X12, yet Changes is notably slower with a similar density. Arguably, that would make it easier. Would that put the chart somewhere at an X11 or X12? I don't think it could pass for an X13 in any sense just in terms of stamina required.
chart (X14) in terms of BPM and techniques, but noticeably denser. Personally I'd say that's enough to classify it as an X15.Meanwhile, Changes is also an ITG9, however the song is roughly as long as Touch Me while having about 3/5ths of the total steps. In a couple of ways, the technicality of the chart reminds me of Sayonara Trip's
chart, rated an X12, yet Changes is notably slower with a similar density. Arguably, that would make it easier. Would that put the chart somewhere at an X11 or X12? I don't think it could pass for an X13 in any sense just in terms of stamina required.Post #7 · Posted at 2021-09-24 01:40:28am 2.5 years ago
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I can see Pandemonium being an 18, but I imagine Determinator, Summer Speedy Mix, and Vertex 2 would all be rated 19 in DDR.
I don't really feel like any of those 9s are harder than something like Healing Vision Angelic Mix. I can see Pandemonium being an 18, but I imagine Determinator, Summer Speedy Mix, and Vertex 2 would all be rated 19 in DDR.
I never passed Pandemonium but I passed Determinator and Summer. I did pass all the SN1 boss songs on Challenge so I was passing 18s at one point too, and I still couldn't do Pandemonium at that time. Maybe not the best way to judge things but what else do we have to go off here but our own experience actually stepping these songs? Determinator has a lot of breaks that make it one of the easier 12s and Summer is very straight forward and just a stamina drain, nothing like any of the 19s. Maybe Vertex^2 with the gimmick but it's steps are nothing compared to Over The "Period" or Valkyrie Dimension which also have BPM gimmicks. Like if somehow Konami did some kind of big ITG2 20th anniversary in 2025 and licensed a bunch of songs for this game they won in a lawsuit and included Vertex^2 with its ITG2 cut and charts and said it's a 19 I wouldn't cry about it, but it's not what I would rate it as. I guess we do need something to bridge the gap between the 18s and 19s though and this would be a good candidate?
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ITG9 seems to be the default rating for everything on expert. Touch Me's expert chart (while still being an ITG9) is fairly comparable to EDSM's chart (X14) in terms of BPM and techniques, but noticeably denser. Personally I'd say that's enough to classify it as an X15.
Meanwhile, Changes is also an ITG9, however the song is roughly as long as Touch Me while having about 3/5ths of the total steps. In a couple of ways, the technicality of the chart reminds me of Sayonara Trip's chart, rated an X12, yet Changes is notably slower with a similar density. Arguably, that would make it easier. Would that put the chart somewhere at an X11 or X12? I don't think it could pass for an X13 in any sense just in terms of stamina required.
chart (X14) in terms of BPM and techniques, but noticeably denser. Personally I'd say that's enough to classify it as an X15.Meanwhile, Changes is also an ITG9, however the song is roughly as long as Touch Me while having about 3/5ths of the total steps. In a couple of ways, the technicality of the chart reminds me of Sayonara Trip's
chart, rated an X12, yet Changes is notably slower with a similar density. Arguably, that would make it easier. Would that put the chart somewhere at an X11 or X12? I don't think it could pass for an X13 in any sense just in terms of stamina required.Touch Me doesn't cross you up as much as Electric Dance System Music, which is going to change the difficulty of that kind of chart significantly. Touch Me pretty much keeps you facing one direction. It's a solid 13 in my opinion.
Changes is just on the lower end of 12. Saying it's the same difficulty as something like Holic just feels weird.
Post #8 · Posted at 2021-09-25 01:20:40am 2.5 years ago
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I would say 11s are 16s, 12s are mostly 17s but some could be 18s, and 13s are 18s.
Yeah basically this. 19s would be in line with community standard FA 14s.
Post #9 · Posted at 2021-09-25 07:37:06pm 2.5 years ago
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I've actually been in the process of doing rough X-scale conversions for ITG 1/2/Rebirth myself (ITG 1 and 2 drafts are done). I'm not going to share my ratings yet because I did this very quickly and want to fine tune them first, but I do have some general notes on why ITG -> X-scale conversion is pretty sloppy.
1) ITG 9s are ALL OVER THE PLACE. 9s range from hard 11s (Birdie, Changes) to high 14s/low 15s (Hardcore of the North Hard, Disconnected, On A Day Like Today). 1-8 aligns pretty well with DDR aside from a few misrates, but with 9s especially, it feels like they tried to encompass everything from easy DDR 9s to the easiest DDR 10s, which is a HUGE range. The X-scale was created to fix this specific issue, and while ITG does expand the scale beyond 10, it doesn't do anything to address the rating gap between a 9 and a 10 footer circa 2005.
2) Everything 10 and above is also sloppy. In many cases Roxor had a difficult time distinguishing between a hard 10 and an easy 11 (look at the ratings of Soapy Bubble, Disconnected Hyper, and Sweet World, for example). So 10s can at times be 16s and even easy 17s, while the 11s are also 16s and 17s, and some 12s feel like 17s as well (ex: Delirium). This is exacerbated by there being only two ITG games, so they didn't get to make many 11-13 rated charts and fine-tune the upper end of the scale.
3) ITG in general uses a lot of techniques that DDR does not use. Aside from the obvious gimmicks (how do we rate hands? How much do mines affect difficulty?) there's a lot of weirdness like the 32nds in Do You Love Me, Chris Foy's use of skittles (Ride The Bass, Hustle Beach, Lipstick Kiss), charts with REALLY uneven difficulty like Determinator Hard, the flams in Sweet World, etc. Even long "simple" streams like in Delirium aren't THAT common in DDR, which tends to derive its difficulty from more complex rhythms and patterning. So without many analogues to DDR charts, it's hard to tell how certain charts would rate on the X-Scale
4) Doubles in ITG is its own clusterfuck; DDR doubles is also a mess ratings-wise so I don't even know where I'd begin to rate the longboi fever dream charts that are in ITG.
So yeah, this isn't really precise science, and I think any X-scale rerate of ITG is going to lead to a LOT of debate about ratings, especially ratings above 13.
1) ITG 9s are ALL OVER THE PLACE. 9s range from hard 11s (Birdie, Changes) to high 14s/low 15s (Hardcore of the North Hard, Disconnected, On A Day Like Today). 1-8 aligns pretty well with DDR aside from a few misrates, but with 9s especially, it feels like they tried to encompass everything from easy DDR 9s to the easiest DDR 10s, which is a HUGE range. The X-scale was created to fix this specific issue, and while ITG does expand the scale beyond 10, it doesn't do anything to address the rating gap between a 9 and a 10 footer circa 2005.
2) Everything 10 and above is also sloppy. In many cases Roxor had a difficult time distinguishing between a hard 10 and an easy 11 (look at the ratings of Soapy Bubble, Disconnected Hyper, and Sweet World, for example). So 10s can at times be 16s and even easy 17s, while the 11s are also 16s and 17s, and some 12s feel like 17s as well (ex: Delirium). This is exacerbated by there being only two ITG games, so they didn't get to make many 11-13 rated charts and fine-tune the upper end of the scale.
3) ITG in general uses a lot of techniques that DDR does not use. Aside from the obvious gimmicks (how do we rate hands? How much do mines affect difficulty?) there's a lot of weirdness like the 32nds in Do You Love Me, Chris Foy's use of skittles (Ride The Bass, Hustle Beach, Lipstick Kiss), charts with REALLY uneven difficulty like Determinator Hard, the flams in Sweet World, etc. Even long "simple" streams like in Delirium aren't THAT common in DDR, which tends to derive its difficulty from more complex rhythms and patterning. So without many analogues to DDR charts, it's hard to tell how certain charts would rate on the X-Scale
4) Doubles in ITG is its own clusterfuck; DDR doubles is also a mess ratings-wise so I don't even know where I'd begin to rate the longboi fever dream charts that are in ITG.
So yeah, this isn't really precise science, and I think any X-scale rerate of ITG is going to lead to a LOT of debate about ratings, especially ratings above 13.
Post #10 · Posted at 2021-09-25 10:26:47pm 2.5 years ago
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Aside from the obvious gimmicks (how do we rate hands? How much do mines affect difficulty?) there's a lot of weirdness like the 32nds in Do You Love Me, Chris Foy's use of skittles (Ride The Bass, Hustle Beach, Lipstick Kiss), charts with REALLY uneven difficulty like Determinator Hard, the flams in Sweet World, etc.
These patterns are hard to FC, but in terms of passing difficulty they don't make too much of a difference. If we were going by scoring difficulty, then things would get pretty hard to calculate. The skittles could be compared to the rhythmic challenges in Deadball de Homerun or Crazy Shuffle maybe, while the flams are comparable to the gallop section in Tsugaru. ITG songs with hands are hugely overrated, Bend Your Mind being the most obvious example. Easy is rated an ITG6 but its actual passing difficulty might be that of an X6 or less.
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Even long "simple" streams like in Delirium aren't THAT common in DDR, which tends to derive its difficulty from more complex rhythms and patterning. So without many analogues to DDR charts, it's hard to tell how certain charts would rate on the X-Scale.
16th note runs are not common but Delirium on expert's closest counterpart in DDR might be Horatio.
Finding DDR analogues might be difficult, so a lot of the translation might have to be played by ear. Obviously, if someone can pass an X15 at the very most, then anything they are unable to pass is just slightly greater than X15. Going back to my initial inspiration of Vertex on hard, I was able to pass it long before I could endure the entirety of MAX 300 or TLOM. Even though it has gimmicks that are not present in DDR, it was easier to pass than an X15, therefore it would have to be rated lower.
We could of course bring up that not everyone has the same skillset (stamina, individual leg speeds, crossovers' leg-eye coordination etc.), but at the end of the day, some songs are objectively harder to pass. There are inevitably charts that statistically fewer people are able to make it through.
Post #11 · Posted at 2021-09-25 11:21:29pm 2.5 years ago
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Since there are none in DDR, a 20 would be anything harder than the 19's - probably ITG 15's and 16's- See some of the 20's I've posted as examples. Nothing in ITG 1-3+Rebirth would be a 20
19
Vertex^2 (just from the BS it has, mines, 16ths, jumps, etc)
Disconnected Hardkore (ITG 3)
Vertex^3 (ITG 3) - BS
Chromatic Blitz (Rebirth) - the long stream
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Pandemonium - due to BPM, Pink Fuzzy Bunnies (ITG 3), Indulgence (ITG 3), Euphoria, Hardcore of the North, Bloodrush, Determinator, Summer, Energizer (maybe 17?)
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Infection - mines
Delirium - straightforward, 163 a bit slow for 18
July - note count
Tell, The Beginning, Vertex, Destiny, Go 60 Go, Hardcore Symphony
Pandemonium Hard
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Mythology - like PSMO, Utopia, Xuxa, Clockwork Genesis, Monolith, Robotix, Sweet World, Vertex ^ 2 hard, Disconnected Hyper, Tension, Soapy Bubble
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Charlene
Bend Your Mind, Bouff, Do You Love Me, Hybrid, Kagami, Oasis, Remember December, Walking on Fire, Agent Blatant, Cryosleep, Energizer Hard, Fleadh Uncut, Hillbilly Hardcore, Know Your Enemy, One False Move, Out of the Dark, Spin Chicken, Summer in Belize, Sunshine, Temple of Boom, Tribal Style, Visible Noise, Vorsprung Durch
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Hand of Time, HotN hard, Driving force Classical, Lemmings on the Run, Let my Love go Blind, My Favourite Game, On a day Like Today, Queen of Light, Touch Me, Vertex Hard, While Tha Rekkid Spinz, Zodiac, Hispanic Panic, Holy Guacamole, July Euromix, Liquid Moon, Summer Hard, Twilight, Wanna Do
Since there are none in DDR, a 20 would be anything harder than the 19's - probably ITG 15's and 16's- See some of the 20's I've posted as examples. Nothing in ITG 1-3+Rebirth would be a 20
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Vertex^2 (just from the BS it has, mines, 16ths, jumps, etc)
Disconnected Hardkore (ITG 3)
Vertex^3 (ITG 3) - BS
Chromatic Blitz (Rebirth) - the long stream
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Pandemonium - due to BPM, Pink Fuzzy Bunnies (ITG 3), Indulgence (ITG 3), Euphoria, Hardcore of the North, Bloodrush, Determinator, Summer, Energizer (maybe 17?)
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Infection - mines
Delirium - straightforward, 163 a bit slow for 18
July - note count
Tell, The Beginning, Vertex, Destiny, Go 60 Go, Hardcore Symphony
Pandemonium Hard
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Mythology - like PSMO, Utopia, Xuxa, Clockwork Genesis, Monolith, Robotix, Sweet World, Vertex ^ 2 hard, Disconnected Hyper, Tension, Soapy Bubble
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Charlene
Bend Your Mind, Bouff, Do You Love Me, Hybrid, Kagami, Oasis, Remember December, Walking on Fire, Agent Blatant, Cryosleep, Energizer Hard, Fleadh Uncut, Hillbilly Hardcore, Know Your Enemy, One False Move, Out of the Dark, Spin Chicken, Summer in Belize, Sunshine, Temple of Boom, Tribal Style, Visible Noise, Vorsprung Durch
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Hand of Time, HotN hard, Driving force Classical, Lemmings on the Run, Let my Love go Blind, My Favourite Game, On a day Like Today, Queen of Light, Touch Me, Vertex Hard, While Tha Rekkid Spinz, Zodiac, Hispanic Panic, Holy Guacamole, July Euromix, Liquid Moon, Summer Hard, Twilight, Wanna Do
Post #12 · Posted at 2021-09-26 02:09:51am 2.5 years ago
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I can agree with pretty much all of that but Vertex^2 and the 9's you made 14s. The 10s you made 14's I agree with. But as we've established in all of these conversations before I never agree with anyone on what a 14 is so yeah.
Also Freezepond I just found your simfile category, that shit rocks.
Also Freezepond I just found your simfile category, that shit rocks.
Post #13 · Posted at 2021-09-26 06:13:26pm 2.5 years ago
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My idea of what a 14 is has definitely changed with A20 and A20 PLUS, so I'm actually willing to bump a few of the 10s Braeden47 made 14 to 15. I'd at least swap Tribal Style and Wanna Do.
Post #14 · Posted at 2021-09-27 01:00:35am 2.5 years ago
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Tribal Style is definitely draining enough to be an easy 15; I'd argue that Charlene is a 16 for similar reason (plus all the mines in Charlene).
I'd also argue Sweet World is a 17; while it's definitely a 16 if those notes were jumps, the flams are REALLY rough to time and fuck with you psychologically. IMO it should have been rated an 11 in ITG2.
I'd also argue Sweet World is a 17; while it's definitely a 16 if those notes were jumps, the flams are REALLY rough to time and fuck with you psychologically. IMO it should have been rated an 11 in ITG2.
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Sweet World as a 17 seems a little too far, because 17s in general are much more tiring. It's not quite The Beginning. The advantage of flams, in my experience, is that you can hop them a little lighter than you can on jumps. It seems better to time than SWEET HOME PARTY, if we're talking 16s.
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It’s easier to time Sweet World than Go 60 Go, so if Sweet World is a 17 for timing then would Go 60 Go be an 18?
Post #17 · Posted at 2021-09-28 12:11:37am 2.5 years ago
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It’s easier to time Sweet World than Go 60 Go, so if Sweet World is a 17 for timing then would Go 60 Go be an 18?
Yes.
I also think scoring difficulty should factor a little into ratings, though, so I'm biased lol.
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Sweet World as a 17 seems a little too far, because 17s in general are much more tiring. It's not quite The Beginning. The advantage of flams, in my experience, is that you can hop them a little lighter than you can on jumps. It seems better to time than SWEET HOME PARTY, if we're talking 16s.
Yeah, fair point. I still think it should be an easy 11 though, if we're considering something like Charlene an 11.
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Charlene also has 51 jumps, 50 holds, and 139 mines, while Sweet World has 30 jumps, 4 mines, and 60 holds. They're different kinds of charts, not really ones that I would use as a reference for the other. I think Charlene is perfect as the entry level 11. Mines, step jumps, and stream. It's everything you need to know to pass one. I wouldn't be upset if Sweet World was re-rated for scoring, but for stamina it doesn't do anything Fleadh Uncut doesn't do, and Fleadh Uncut does a lot more of it. I also think if scoring isn't part of the equation that Go 60 Go is an easy 11. You can easily run it all like 16ths and pass it with not too much effort but you'll have like a 70% on it, it's the step-jump/mine section that has me saying easy 11. But since Go 60 Go is rated because of scoring, the same should apply to Sweet World.
Also, on the subject of flams vs jumps, ITG isn't DDR. You can flam jumps in Stepmania therefore you can flam them in ITG. Shit, you can run jumps like 16ths or 32nds in Stepmania and therefore ITG. Like if you have the stamina but not the technical skill you can just treat Tell Expert like really fast bursts and you'll pick up a ton of Greats but never break your combo. So because of the game Sweet World is in, there is no advantage to flams vs jumps. If Sweet World was ever used as is from ITG in a DDR game then that would be a point of debate.
Keeping with the original point of the thread, with scoring taken into consideration Go 60 Go is an 18, Sweet World is a 17. If scoring isn't a factor I would say they are both 16s.
Also, on the subject of flams vs jumps, ITG isn't DDR. You can flam jumps in Stepmania therefore you can flam them in ITG. Shit, you can run jumps like 16ths or 32nds in Stepmania and therefore ITG. Like if you have the stamina but not the technical skill you can just treat Tell Expert like really fast bursts and you'll pick up a ton of Greats but never break your combo. So because of the game Sweet World is in, there is no advantage to flams vs jumps. If Sweet World was ever used as is from ITG in a DDR game then that would be a point of debate.
Keeping with the original point of the thread, with scoring taken into consideration Go 60 Go is an 18, Sweet World is a 17. If scoring isn't a factor I would say they are both 16s.
Post #19 · Posted at 2021-10-07 10:56:04pm 2.5 years ago
I'm preparing to be roasted for this, but here we go: This is all ITG 1/2 expert charts rated in X-scale, as well as every Medium and Hard chart that I think is a 13 or above. I didn't include the extra expert charts that were never in arcade (like Crazy or Mellow Expert).
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Bend Your Mind
Bloodrush
Bouff
Disconnected -Hyper-
Fleadh Uncut
Hardcore Symphony
I Think I Like That Sound
Know Your Enemy
Liquid Moon
Mythology
Oasis
One False Move
Out Of The Dark
Remember December
Tell
Temple Of Boom
Tribal Style
VerTex2 (Medium)
Visible Noise
Xuxa
-14-
!
Clockwork Genesis
Energizer (Medium)
Go 60 Go
Hardcore of the North
Hybrid
July
Monolith
Pandemonium (Medium)
Summer -Speedy Mix-
Tension
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VerTex
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Energizer (Hard)
VerTex2 (Hard)
-17-
Pandemonium (Hard)
EXPERT
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Birdie
Get Happy
Ize Pie
Little Kitty Mine
No Princess
Psalm Pilot
This Is Rock And Roll
Why Me
-13-
Baby Don't You Want Me
Boogie Down
Bumble Bee
D-Code
Da Roots (Folk Mix)
Disconnected -Mobius-
Flying High
Funk Factory
High
Hip Hop Jam
Incognito
Lipstick Kiss
Music Pleeze
Renaissance
Ride The Bass
ROM-eo & Juli-8
Spaceman
Spacy Crazy Girl
The Message
Tough Enough
Typical Tropical
We Know What To Do
-14-
Amore
Bouff
Disconnected
Disconnected Disco
Drifting Away
Driving Force Classical
Fly Away
Fly With Me
Hispanic Panic
I Think I Like That Sound
July -Euromix-
Kiss Me Red
Lemmings On The Run
Let My Love Go Blind
Liquid Moon
My Life Is So Crazy
No. 1 Nation
Oasis
One False Move
Queen Of Light
Solina
The Game
Touch Me
Turn It On
Twilight
Wake Up
While Tha Rekkid Spins
Zodiac
-15-
Agent Blatant
Anubis
Bend Your Mind
Cryosleep
Do U Love Me
Fleadh Uncut
Hand Of Time
Hilbilly Hardcore
Holy Guacamole
Hybrid
Kagami
My Favourite Game
On A Day Like Today
Out Of The Dark
Spin Chicken
Summer In Belize
Temple Of Boom
Tribal Style
Visible Noise
Vorpsrung Durch Techno
Walking On Fire
Wanna Do -Hardhouse Mix-
-16-
Charlene
Clockwork Genesis
Know Your Enemy
Mythology
Remember December
Robotix
Soapy Bubble
Sunshine
Sweet World
Tension
Utopia
Xuxa
-17-
!
Bloodrush
Delirium
Destiny
Disconnected -Hyper-
Go 60 Go
Hardcore Symphony
Infection
July
Monolith
Tell
The Beginning
VerTex
-18-
Energizer
Euphoria
Determinator
Hardcore Of The North
Pandemonium
Summer -Speedy Mix-
VerTex2
MEDIUM/HARD
-13-
Bend Your Mind
Bloodrush
Bouff
Disconnected -Hyper-
Fleadh Uncut
Hardcore Symphony
I Think I Like That Sound
Know Your Enemy
Liquid Moon
Mythology
Oasis
One False Move
Out Of The Dark
Remember December
Tell
Temple Of Boom
Tribal Style
VerTex2 (Medium)
Visible Noise
Xuxa
-14-
!
Clockwork Genesis
Energizer (Medium)
Go 60 Go
Hardcore of the North
Hybrid
July
Monolith
Pandemonium (Medium)
Summer -Speedy Mix-
Tension
-15-
VerTex
-16-
Energizer (Hard)
VerTex2 (Hard)
-17-
Pandemonium (Hard)
EXPERT
-12-
Birdie
Get Happy
Ize Pie
Little Kitty Mine
No Princess
Psalm Pilot
This Is Rock And Roll
Why Me
-13-
Baby Don't You Want Me
Boogie Down
Bumble Bee
D-Code
Da Roots (Folk Mix)
Disconnected -Mobius-
Flying High
Funk Factory
High
Hip Hop Jam
Incognito
Lipstick Kiss
Music Pleeze
Renaissance
Ride The Bass
ROM-eo & Juli-8
Spaceman
Spacy Crazy Girl
The Message
Tough Enough
Typical Tropical
We Know What To Do
-14-
Amore
Bouff
Disconnected
Disconnected Disco
Drifting Away
Driving Force Classical
Fly Away
Fly With Me
Hispanic Panic
I Think I Like That Sound
July -Euromix-
Kiss Me Red
Lemmings On The Run
Let My Love Go Blind
Liquid Moon
My Life Is So Crazy
No. 1 Nation
Oasis
One False Move
Queen Of Light
Solina
The Game
Touch Me
Turn It On
Twilight
Wake Up
While Tha Rekkid Spins
Zodiac
-15-
Agent Blatant
Anubis
Bend Your Mind
Cryosleep
Do U Love Me
Fleadh Uncut
Hand Of Time
Hilbilly Hardcore
Holy Guacamole
Hybrid
Kagami
My Favourite Game
On A Day Like Today
Out Of The Dark
Spin Chicken
Summer In Belize
Temple Of Boom
Tribal Style
Visible Noise
Vorpsrung Durch Techno
Walking On Fire
Wanna Do -Hardhouse Mix-
-16-
Charlene
Clockwork Genesis
Know Your Enemy
Mythology
Remember December
Robotix
Soapy Bubble
Sunshine
Sweet World
Tension
Utopia
Xuxa
-17-
!
Bloodrush
Delirium
Destiny
Disconnected -Hyper-
Go 60 Go
Hardcore Symphony
Infection
July
Monolith
Tell
The Beginning
VerTex
-18-
Energizer
Euphoria
Determinator
Hardcore Of The North
Pandemonium
Summer -Speedy Mix-
VerTex2
Post #20 · Posted at 2021-10-08 12:03:27am 2.5 years ago
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I would call Infection a 16, I never found it that difficult for an 11 but certainly not a 10 (15) by any means. Other than that yeah I would say those ratings are pretty good. Since I started branching out playing more of the recent DDR stuff and seeing what more 14s look like compared to DDRX2 PS2 and DDRII Wii yeah I can see those working out pretty well.