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Post #41 · Posted at 2019-12-05 10:10:34am 4.3 years ago

Offline Tiger of PTS
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Please god let them crossover Macho Gang to drs so I can copy that dope ass routine.

Post #42 · Posted at 2019-12-05 12:17:01pm 4.3 years ago

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shut up random

Random I've been a part of this community longer than you who the heck are you pal? LOl
And you've been a fucking joke for half of it. I don't think someone should be flexing on their rep when their only contribution to the community was stealing sims and this:

Jeez some people can't be mature adults and get over things. Sad. This was unnecessary and rude Oni, give it a rest. People have moved on from this crap, clearly you haven't, shows what an amazing and mature adult you are. Some thing's and some people never change...

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shut up random

Random I've been a part of this community longer than you who the heck are you pal? LOl

He was talking to Something Random, there's an actual user with that name lol.

My bad!

Post #43 · Posted at 2019-12-05 02:13:54pm 4.3 years ago

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Honey, that's the first mention I've made of it in a decade. I wouldn't have brought it up if you weren't going to be a salt mine. Be thankful I didn't show the one where you played Bitter Chocolate Striker and showed everyone your nipples.
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Post #44 · Posted at 2019-12-05 02:55:28pm 4.3 years ago

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Be thankful I didn't show the one where you played Bitter Chocolate Striker and showed everyone your nipples.
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Post #45 · Posted at 2019-12-05 04:06:28pm 4.3 years ago

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Those have been freely available on youtube for a while now in HD quality, that's no excuse.
well, the audio quality is not so "HD", the max audio bitrate YouTube supports is somewhere around 165kbps.

Post #46 · Posted at 2019-12-05 04:27:49pm 4.3 years ago

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Honey, that's the first mention I've made of it in a decade. I wouldn't have brought it up if you weren't going to be a salt mine. Be thankful I didn't show the one where you played Bitter Chocolate Striker and showed everyone your nipples.

Oh like that will make ANY difference to me anymore almost a decade later you petty little sap! You’re just feeding your ego at this point and only continues to prove my point that you still haven’t gotten over shit that has been put to bed a long time ago and while the rest of us now have moved on from shit we did at an early age, you just bring it right back to the surface. Does it make you feel good to be a petty little shitlord, or is it just me? I have my reasons for being a salt spreaders because Konami puts out inferior products and they could be so much better and I have every right to criticize it. And don’t use petty tactics to get under my skin, I don’t give a shit anymore and it just makes you look bad in a thread that has nothing to do with me. So kindly take your shit elsewhere! FFS.

Post #47 · Posted at 2019-12-05 04:36:45pm 4.3 years ago

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Is it wrong of me that I find this rather entertaining? None of this has nothing to do with the actual thread topic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one should be shaming anyone on here period. If you hate what Konami is doing you have every right to say so.

Post #48 · Posted at 2019-12-05 04:52:12pm 4.3 years ago

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Is it wrong of me that I find this rather entertaining? None of this has nothing to do with the actual thread topic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one should be shaming anyone on here period. If you hate what Konami is doing you have every right to say so.

Nah I find it highly entertaining that someone chooses to take shots at me because I wanna voice my opinion and giving negative feedback and justified reasons to be negative about it and he wants to drag me through the mud decades later about shit that’s been put to bed ages ago, don’t fucking matter how long it hasn’t been mentioned. I find this HIGHLY entertaining! And feeding Said persons ego and insecurities by doing what they just did is even more entertaining and thinking they can get under my skin anymore lol. This is hysterical!

Post #49 · Posted at 2019-12-05 05:16:59pm 4.3 years ago

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I think it'd be better for the rhythm game community as a whole to realize you don't need to beg Konami on your hands and knees to get some fucking rhythm games on mobile. You should probably be supporting the independent ones that were 100% DESIGNED for mobile instead of acting like Konami making trash is such a huge blow. It isn't. This is just Diet INFINITAS that you now have to play on a tiny screen. Can't get behind it one bit.

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Is it wrong of me that I find this rather entertaining? None of this has nothing to do with the actual thread topic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one should be shaming anyone on here period. If you hate what Konami is doing you have every right to say so.

Nah I find it highly entertaining that someone chooses to take shots at me because I wanna voice my opinion and giving negative feedback and justified reasons to be negative about it and he wants to drag me through the mud decades later about shit that’s been put to bed ages ago, don’t fucking matter how long it hasn’t been mentioned. I find this HIGHLY entertaining! And feeding Said persons ego and insecurities by doing what they just did is even more entertaining and thinking they can get under my skin anymore lol. This is hysterical!

Are you having a breakdown right now?
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #50 · Posted at 2019-12-05 05:21:52pm 4.3 years ago

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Post #51 · Posted at 2019-12-05 05:27:43pm 4.3 years ago

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"I find this HIGHLY entertaining"

Also my apologies to you Anony I thought you were calling me a random I didn’t realize you were talking to Random and i didn’t take that right so sorry about that.

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I think it'd be better for the rhythm game community as a whole to realize you don't need to beg Konami on your hands and knees to get some fucking rhythm games on mobile. You should probably be supporting the independent ones that were 100% DESIGNED for mobile instead of acting like Konami making trash is such a huge blow. It isn't. This is just Diet INFINITAS that you now have to play on a tiny screen. Can't get behind it one bit.

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Is it wrong of me that I find this rather entertaining? None of this has nothing to do with the actual thread topic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one should be shaming anyone on here period. If you hate what Konami is doing you have every right to say so.

Nah I find it highly entertaining that someone chooses to take shots at me because I wanna voice my opinion and giving negative feedback and justified reasons to be negative about it and he wants to drag me through the mud decades later about shit that’s been put to bed ages ago, don’t fucking matter how long it hasn’t been mentioned. I find this HIGHLY entertaining! And feeding Said persons ego and insecurities by doing what they just did is even more entertaining and thinking they can get under my skin anymore lol. This is hysterical!

Are you having a breakdown right now?

Oh no I’m fine I’m just saying my peace because this isn’t the first time Oni has rubbed people the wrong way for the wrong reasons. I’ve said my peace.

Post #52 · Posted at 2019-12-05 05:32:18pm 4.3 years ago

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Post #53 · Posted at 2019-12-05 06:11:40pm 4.3 years ago

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People harassing other people for having opinions, the classic "I'm part of this community for X years and I deserve some respect", the bullying, the cringe...

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Post #54 · Posted at 2019-12-05 11:38:54pm 4.3 years ago

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I'm surprised they didn't turn this game into a gacha style game. I was legit expecting them to do something like "get 50 V-Discs to do a 10 pull gatcha where you might get a random song in certain difficulty".

Though I'm not sure if this game having a subscription system is a better idea than that one

Post #55 · Posted at 2019-12-05 11:41:11pm 4.3 years ago

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what the fuck is going on here i thought this was a thread about a game where you hit rectangles and rub a circle not a middle school roast session during lunchtime
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Post #56 · Posted at 2019-12-06 07:58:17am 4.3 years ago

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what the fuck is going on here i thought this was a thread about a game where you hit rectangles and rub a circle not a middle school roast session during lunchtime
You're witnessing how Konami has covertly been destroying the community this past decade due to their schalgwerk'd decisions. The IIDX community was so much close-knit back when they released games of actual quality. For example, the PS2 IIDX CS era; there was much excitement from everyone with very little complaints.


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Honestly, I don't see the point of people getting angry at mobile rhythm games that aren't 100% arcade-accurate these days. The only other thing I could think of is people getting angry that opening a mobile port of an arcade rhythm game doesn't magically turn the phone into a full-blown cabinet.

I understand that there will be necessary compromises in order to port an arcade rhythm game to a mobile platform, so getting rid of keysounds in ULTIMATE MOBILE seems like a reasonable move. Storing keysounds as separate audio files looks a bit silly for mobile devices because they'll probably take up more data storage space, and triggering keysounds at the exact moments on an Android app may be a lot more complicated when you consider the fact that Android is open-source and is available in millions of different phone and tablet models under different brands, thus audio delay values vary per device. It's not a one-size-fits-all scenario like iOS.

Also, the subscription model doesn't look too bad. I mean, some NORMAL charts are already hard enough for newbie players to comprehend (and KONAMI hasn't even mentioned about the BEGINNER charts in the app yet), so having them available for free should suffice enough for them to get used to the game before paying a monthly fee to step it up.

So yeah. Have your opinions all you want, but please keep it civil.
Both jubeat plus and REFLEC BEAT plus were not 100% arcade-accurate, but they came pretty close and translated the arcade experience very well to mobile tablets especially. There were hardly any complaints from fans; they both were excellent AC conversions....I'm afraid the same cannot be said for such a demanding/complex feature-complete game such as beatmaniaIIDX.

You say the subscription model doesn't look too bad. You know, the best part about jubeat plus and REFLEC BEAT plus was the fact that they weren't tied to an online-only subscription service, thus allowing players to play anytime, anywhere unhindered and even after Konami dropped support. In my opinion, the ULTIMATE MOBILE subscription model is not good for consumers...let's see now:


beatmaniaIIDX ULTIMATE MOBILE model


WITHOUT SUBSCRIPTION content/modes (FREE-TO-PLAY):

• GAMEPLAY
--> Comes with a basic free 100 songs
--> Can play up to NORMAL difficulty
--> "AP" Stamina gauge activated



STANDARD SERVICE content/modes ($5.00 USD/month):

• GAMEPLAY
--> Comes with the basic free 100 songs set as well as HEROIC VERSE songs + access to 1000 songs in total.
--> Can play up to HYPER difficulty
--> "AP" Stamina gauge deactivated

• MUSIC PLAYER
--> Listen to music from the beatmaniaIIDX series (some songs are omitted)

***STANDARD SERVICE can only be purchased after the ULTIMATE SERVICE FREE TRIAL is over.



ULTIMATE SERVICE content/modes ($10.00 USD/month):

• GAMEPLAY
--> Comes with the default basic free 100 songs set as well as HEROIC VERSE songs + access to 1000 songs in total.
--> Can play all difficulty levels
--> "AP" stamina gauge deactivated

• GAME VIEW
--> Can use Autoplay for all songs and directly control looping

• MUSIC PLAYER
--> Listen to music from the beatmaniaIIDX series (some songs are omitted)

***There is also an ULTIMATE SERVICE FREE TRIAL that lasts 7 days.



Oh, and one more lovely thing:

There is a SHOP with a purchasable premium currency called "DX DIAMONDS" for those who already purchased a subscription.





...and to think some people believe that this service "ain't bad", but that's their humble opinion though. I personally wouldn't pay for it, that's for sure especially considering the product quality; hell, even DOLCE could barely play the shit on Konami's own stage for that matter. And finally, once support is dropped, say goodbye to all your money spent as well as the ability to even play the game.

As a consumer, I will pay high dollar for good quality games, not half-digested bones thrown to shut us up.
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Post #57 · Posted at 2019-12-06 08:56:54am 4.3 years ago

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A small correction:
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ULTIMATE SERVICE content/modes:
• MUSIC PLAYER
--> Listen to music from the beatmania IIDX series and other BEMANI games (some songs are omitted)

This thing would also occur in the SDVX and DDR apps as well.

Anyway, I agree that IIDX is probably not the best thing to convert to mobile devices; its controls are too complex for tiny screens.

Post #58 · Posted at 2019-12-06 01:12:36pm 4.3 years ago

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Your daily reminder that "games as a service" is bullshit and if you support them you deserve the frustration of when you inevitably lose what you paid for
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #59 · Posted at 2019-12-06 10:17:42pm 4.3 years ago

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Post #60 · Posted at 2019-12-07 12:35:57am 4.3 years ago

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Your daily reminder that "games as a service" is bullshit and if you support them you deserve the frustration of when you inevitably lose what you paid for

Pretty much this. It's ultimately more harmful for end users in the long run. This is why clandestine means have arisen because Konami insists on putting crap before quality. Anti-consumer practices before releasing a product people will buy because it's a good product. Everything is becoming a subscription it's terrible. EA, Konami, Microsoft, Sony,Ubisoft etc they all are trying to sell something monthly much like TV and movies streaming. Yes you don't have to subscribe to them, and I will continue to refuse to.
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