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KONAMI has removed nearly all BEMANI game pages from their website

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Post #1 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 08:08:35am Hace 5.5 años

Offline Morning Blue
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Last updated: 2018-10-01 08:09am
Near every BEMANI game prior to 2014 has been replaced with a link to their Japanese game website, which is this: https://www.konami.com/games/jp/ja/

In their place, KONAMI has made tiny little, boring, barren mini websites describing these games instead, if they even GET pages: https://www.konami.com/amusement/products/search/?cat=am&series=BEMANI

Of course, any references to in-house staff that worked on these games has been removed, because of course they would be.

Just when I think KONAMI can't sink any deeper as a company...

Mind you, this also applies to non-BEMANI stuff like Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill as well.

Post #2 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 08:13:52am Hace 5.5 años

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Post #3 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 08:20:09am Hace 5.5 años

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Censoring two decades' worth of games for no reason than sheer pettiness is kind of a big deal. It also makes gathering information on older BEMANI harder than ever now.

This is censorship of people who have been working on these games, and hell at KONAMI, for upwards of 25-30 years. Just deleting these pages in the hopes of selling a few more copies of Super Bomberman R speaks volumes on how little Konami gives a shit for their older fans. As in, they don't.

But hey, I can play this Love Live ripoff that uses the name of a 24 year old franchise Konami hasn't made a new installment of since 2009. That's so cool.

Post #4 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 11:00:30am Hace 5.5 años

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"five minute white boy challenge"
I thought not giving credit to people who worked on a game was a thing they stopped doing around the Atari 2600/Famicom era...
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #5 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 12:02:25pm Hace 5.5 años

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This is censorship
Please learn what censorship actually means.

And the eAmusement pages for all the games still exist. Here's Beatstream.

If anything, this is more like not keeping history of games, which is a different problem on its own. Game companies like Konami, Nintendo, Ubisoft, and whatnot don't see games as something worth keeping information on rather than something to be consumed before moving onto the next game.

Post #6 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 12:47:51pm Hace 5.5 años

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I see no problem on getting rid of old game webpages just so they can clean-up their servers a bit.

Just be glad that Internet Archive exists in case you still need to access those ancient info.

Post #7 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 03:43:43pm Hace 5.5 años

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Some old pages are archived on archive.org.

Aslo, due to this, Konami remove all old pages from it's server due to space issues.
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Post #8 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 03:59:12pm Hace 5.5 años

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konami removing archaic webpages from their site as they are no longer relevant (and some haven't been in ages) and served only to fill up server space?

the pain, the horror, the terror

Post #9 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 04:16:38pm Hace 5.5 años

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Oh no, I can't look at pages I was never gonna look at. What a tragedy.

Post #10 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 05:25:08pm Hace 5.5 años

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Post #11 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 05:46:01pm Hace 5.5 años

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"five minute white boy challenge"
people: lol they just removed old shit [SARCASTIC COMMENT HERE]
also people: get mad at the slightest fucking removal of literally anything to do with their precious DDR

Dickbags, the issue is "Of course, any references to in-house staff that worked on these games has been removed, because of course they would be."
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #12 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 06:08:49pm Hace 5.5 años

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I mean it's prior to 2014 so I would not think much of it. It's likely to save space. Besides, how many people are on the computer going "I need to get on the IIDX Gold website right now!"

Post #13 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 06:11:54pm Hace 5.5 años

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making a big deal out of nothing
this site never fails in that department..
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Post #14 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 07:14:14pm Hace 5.5 años

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Quote: Quickman
people: lol they just removed old shit [SARCASTIC COMMENT HERE]
also people: get mad at the slightest fucking removal of literally anything to do with their precious DDR

Dickbags, the issue is "Of course, any references to in-house staff that worked on these games has been removed, because of course they would be."

What in house staff? There is only Bemani Sound Team.

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Post #15 · Publicado en 2018-10-01 07:17:15pm Hace 5.5 años

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"five minute white boy challenge"
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WarlikeAffectionateAntarcticfurseal-max-1mb.gif
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #16 · Publicado en 2018-10-02 01:11:26am Hace 5.5 años

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Quote: NikkiS
I see no problem on getting rid of old game webpages just so they can clean-up their servers a bit.

See, to an extent, I can get behind this. For example, the beatmania series, which ended in 2002, I'm not surprised by in the slightest had its pages removed, or the CS BEMANI game pages. Konami had already removed the pages for DanceManiax, KEYBOARDMANIA, and ParaParaParadise in the past. None of that surprises me.

But that "making room for space" argument goes out the window when you release games as recent as 2015's Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain had their websites taken down so Konami can advertise Metal Gear Survive over it. MGSV isn't a 15-20 year arcade game; it's a three year old game created by Konami's once in-house equivalent of Shigeru Miyamoto. It absolutely is censorship. The games don't even have a single web page with basic details like most of the old game/BEMANI games do; they just link back to Konami's main games page.

Edit: Oh wait, I'm sorry, the page IS still up...kind of. It's just a never-ending loop of asking for your birthdate and country: https://www.konami.com/mg/mgsv/

Quote: Quickman
people: lol they just removed old shit [SARCASTIC COMMENT HERE]
also people: get mad at the slightest fucking removal of literally anything to do with their precious DDR

Dickbags, the issue is "Of course, any references to in-house staff that worked on these games has been removed, because of course they would be."

Hey look, someone gets what I'm talking about!

Post #17 · Publicado en 2018-10-02 01:26:29am Hace 5.5 años

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"suffering from success"
I'm sure the people who worked on a decade old game are absolutely gutted that the web page for it that nobody ever went to doesn't exist anymore.

Post #18 · Publicado en 2018-10-02 01:28:12am Hace 5.5 años

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I'm sure the people who worked on a decade old game are absolutely gutted that the web page for it that nobody ever went to doesn't exist anymore.

Thanks for completely ignoring the point I made about Metal Gear Solid V.

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Post #20 · Publicado en 2018-10-02 03:48:01am Hace 5.5 años

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The pages for jubeat plus and REFLEC BEAT plus went down, too. I give them a few months before they're pulled off iTunes.
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