Best way to cheat Max.(period) on Encore extra stage

Syncing video on computer with the chart on Encore stage worked!

513 and I played today to try and pass Egoism and Max Period. Surprisingly we both AA cleared Egoism on our first try today unlocking max period. I got the video ready on my pc and mounted it up. I had it ready on the first jump step and simultaneously hit play while jumping to hit the step, quite tricky to be honest.

The sync was pretty good. We both made it to the end speed up and then looked at the PC screen for assistance. I made a mistake halfway through but he kept going. He made it to the end of the song and cleared it with a good full combo. He is now officially the third? person to have access to phase 2.

I did play again after that and after clearing egoism I tried the same method to sync the charts for max period. This time I must have been off a bit because I knew when I looked down at the pause it was noticeably off. I assumed I wouldn't be able to use that to assist me so I decided a new method on the spot, spam all arrows as fast as possible and not get a miss. It actually started VERY well, albeit with tons of goods and greats, but with nearly 30 steps to clear, I got a miss. It was definitely a result based on the pad quality, it isn't my regular arcade. Nonetheless, it has given me confidence if you are just hoping to "clear" the song, this method is definitely viable if you have good pads.

Hope this update was helpful and thanks for your suggestions.

Edit. Played again and passed max period myself using the mashing method.

Also, important to note, if you did not have 5 medals going into encore, even if you pass it you wont be in the next phase. With that said, neither of us are in the next phase... Though I'm sure we will both be soon.

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I wish you and 513 the best of luck trying to figure out Over The "Period" and its shenanigans. It's looking like it's going to be one tough cookie. ...then again, most people never made it past the first step.

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This phase 2 crap looks impossible, good luck to you and all others who are capable of getting the 5 medals.

Well that's disappointing, and what a way to make everything even harder. At least once you unlock Phase 2 (apparently by clearing Max.(period) while also being the player with 5 medals), it stays unlocked so you have to ace "only" five Extra Stages instead of eleven each time to get a shot at Max.(period).

...Which is an 18 which you have to AA on 4 lives while basically on forced 1x which you are then stuck on (unless you can mash the button to increase the speed mod fast enough) (never mind looks like you can't) for the 32.7 BPM beginning of OT"P" which you have to PFC. Ugh.

That slow bpm is definitely a huge problem. Looked everywhere online for more info on this song and wanted to at least hear it all the way through, no luck :\

Well, you're not going to find anything until someone passes the song first on video; this song is completely new as of the 2nd phase of RDI. The farthest anyone's gotten is ~27 steps in, and it doesn't seem like anyone's going to pass it anytime soon, so we'll probably be forced to wait a long time for the whole song.

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Another update

Quite strange... but actually when I passed Max Period the other day, I DID get into phase 2. I thought I did because at the end of the round a message popped up but at the same time we all assumed I didn't get it since 513 passed before I did using my medals and DID NOT go on to phase 2. It doesn't make sense why it is different for me and we are still trying to figure out why.

Anyways, we played Max Period challenge once today and both got owned haha. We will work on it and get to encore stage soon. We are planning a long session friday morning (saturday night for most of you) and I'll be streaming.

Quick important question

If using cut 1 on Max period challenge, is there still hope to AA it? I know it would cut all the greens at the end and quite a few notes in the middle, but how well would the score need to be to still AA it? If the answer is something like I would need to get an SDG or better with cut 1 on, then forget about it.

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How did you get to Max.(period) the second time? I thought 513 didn't have the conditions to unlock the medals yet, so if you used your own medals twice that would make sense. Congrats on passing it btw!

Unfortunately with even CUT2 on it would be impossible to AA. There's 601 notes and 15 freeze arrows, so 616 "steps" that can contribute to your score. The ending has a total of 52 green notes, so turning on CUT2 would restrict your score to 564/616, which, even with all Marvelouses and OKs, would be a score of 915,580 or a low A. CUT1 would remove like half the notes in the chart.

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Edit: If you passed Max.(period) using someone else's medals and got into Phase 2, and 513 did the same thing and did not, then it's possible that the Phase 2 unlock conditions only require you to have had all 5 medals in the past, or simply require you to have full nitro, assuming 513 does/has not.

Damn, I was afraid of that.

The only other hope is a clear is good enough for encore, though I seriously doubt it.

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Yeah, I don't think a clear is enough. The Doubles player Takaske FC'd Max. (Period) Double Challenge on his first try, but got 899k, a high B, almost A. He didn't make it to Over the "Period".

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Damn, so close to passing Max.(period) at that last stream Dr.D. Though it looks like whoever was playing with you confirmed that a 935k A isn't enough to get into Encore.

Side note: There's a comment floating around on Youtube stating that the speed mod is locked once OT"P" starts and can't be changed, though I find this hard to believe since it would specifically be locking it to whatever you set it last, rather than a predefined number. Unfortunately there's not much of way to confirm this, given that only ~2 people have even seen the song and that was a full week ago. Has no one accessed it since then?

that is true. the machine's left/right buttons light up when you can still change your speed mod. videos of OT"P" show that the buttons did not light at all.

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God damn, way to make this already incredibly difficult Encore Extra Stage even harder.

It's deliberately bastardly, considering that you're going to be playing 1x, unless somehow you can read 900bpm better than most people can read 150.

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It is definitely possible to play the song on settings other than 1x though, as can be seen here https://vine.co/u/1179780155489607680

I guess one player has to take one for the team and play Max Period on 3x for that to happen though.

Yup.

It's a shame that I can read low speed pretty well, and the one time Konami acnowledges properly low speeds (bag notwithstanding), it's with a bloody PA rule. So even if I could play this and somehow AA 18s, I'd fail at the first note. Bah.

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Here's a quick time comparison:
- Pluto Relinquish was unlocked as EES for the first time on 2007-12-20. A video of the Expert chart (getting 30 seconds in) was uploaded on 2007-12-21, a day later. It was passed on 2008-1-22, 32 days after that (33 days after the first reveal). Nine days later, it was downgraded to Extra Stage on 2008-1-31.
- Valkyrie dimension was unlocked for the first time on 2010-7-14. A video of the chart (failing at the first arrow after the long freeze) was uploaded on 2010-7-17, three days later. A more substantial video getting up to 385/632 combo was uploaded on 2010-7-25, about a week after that. The full chart did not become known until 2010-10-4, when 513 got up to 623 combo and the last freeze was visible at the bottom of the screen. The VS REPLICANT course was unlocked on 2010-11-02, revealing the song's Difficult chart and allowing it to be played under sort-of Extra Stage conditions after a six-course marathon before it. The Encore Stage itself was not passed until 2011-11-06, four days after the course unlock, a whopping 112 days after the first video, and 115 days after the song was first revealed.
- Over The "Period" was unlocked on 2015-3-26 and a video of the first step came out the same day. A video of the second step came out on 2015-3-28, along with FEFEMZ performing the trick to play it on a higher speed mod. It has been so far 8 days since the first reveal, and no one has gotten any further on video. Get settled everyone, this is going to take a while.

I haven't bothered to gather data yet on other Encore songs that took some time to pass such as Tohoku Evolved and Love is the Power -Re:born-, but I highly doubt any of them took even as long as Pluto Relinquish. It would be nice to compile a list of how long it took for each Encore stage to be downgraded though, so we have an idea of how long it will take to see past the first measure of OT"P", since I highly doubt (as with Valkyrie dimension) that it's going to be passed soon in its current state.

It would surprise me if Love is the Power wasn't passed on the day of unlock. The average person who gets that far would have no trouble PFCing a safe 10.

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I got curious so I looked it up. According to the old DDR X3 thread:
- 2012-8-2, 6am UTC: LitPR theoretically accessible.
- 2012-8-2, 5pm UTC: First mention of someone AAing TREvo or PRevo and seeing the EES
- 2012-8-2, 11pm UTC: First video. Player gets up to 69/276 combo.
- 2012-8-4, 12am UTC: Second video. Player gets up to 115/276 combo.
- 2012-8-4, 9pm UTC: First pass on video, by none other than Dr.D himself

All in all it took just about two days.

Part of the reason why it took a little bit might have been because Paranoia Revolution was revealed in Marathon Mode at the same time, and everyone was focused on the new 19.

Interesting info, thanks for sharing those dates.

Officially 513 and I are both in Phase 2 now. We played today and tried the laptop sync again. Since I already made it to phase 2, I took extra care in syncing the two videos during the song and then placed the monitor on a chair in front of him. We tried in the past, but this this it worked and he unlocked phase 2.

We played Max. Period Challenge a bit and even saw OTP on Encore.

I should rename the thread title now to "Best way to cheat Over the Period" haha

But seriously guys... Anyone have some ideas? I played OTP twice and both times I used 3.75. I used that because Zowayix predicts the BPM is between 150-180. If I could get a confirmation on that, I'd appreciate it. 3.75x on 180 is the highest I can play and still MA. Unfortunate it is still criminally slow at the beginning of OTP, especially with just 1 great equaling your demise. There is no point in playing it on 8x since it is almost a certain death sentence past 25 combo.

I know this sounds silly, but is anyone making a simfile yet? With enough practice of the beginning rhythm, 513 and I would stand a far better chance on 3.75 or slower. Any other advice is more than welcomed.

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