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Post #1 · Posted at 2015-02-28 09:22:00pm 9.1 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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I only found one similar thread and it was locked three years ago for some reason so...

Like the title says, what are some songs in DDR that a Challenge chart could bring out their full potential or be creative/fun? Here are a few of mine:

IN THE ZONE - I can see this having a nice level 13 chart.
Wicked Plastik - A Stream-y, Chaotic 15 would work for this.
CURUS - The song itself kinda calls for lots of stream so a straightforward 12 or crossover-y 13 could work.
KAGEROW (Dragonfly) - The all-over-the-place rhythms in the song could make it a tricky 14.
LOGICAL DASH - So much is happening in the song that the Expert chart doesn't touch. A 14 could be made out of this.

All of these based on the usual DDR chart style.

If there is something against these kinds of threads, I apologize.

Post #2 · Posted at 2015-02-28 09:40:11pm 9.1 years ago

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For me personally, I would like to see BE LOVIN' get a chllg chart. I love the song but thats just me
I also think that the challenge remixes in DDRMAX2 deserve to be updated because there's so much in the songs that could be added in a new chart. Songs like B4U (B4 ZA BEAT MIX) and BRILLIANT 2U (K.O.G G3 MIX) are awesome and have potential
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Post #3 · Posted at 2015-02-28 10:42:00pm 9.1 years ago

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Freeze. Yes, I know it already has a Challenge chart, but it's nothing more than a basic shock arrow chart. The song has potential for a good 14 footer a la INNOCENCE OF SILENCE, but alas...

Post #4 · Posted at 2015-02-28 11:36:48pm 9.1 years ago

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I think Plan 8 needs a crazy or something Challenge chart. Expert was a generalization of the beats and one hard challenge wouldn't be bad I think
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Post #5 · Posted at 2015-03-01 05:36:08pm 9.1 years ago

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The Earth Light would have a good Oni chart despite not being on DDR anymore.

Post #6 · Posted at 2015-03-01 06:31:05pm 9.1 years ago

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Personally, I think Saber Wing could use a Challenge chart that isn't just a shock arrow chart. I love the song, but I feel like the Heavy stepchart missed out on a lot of potential. Bloody Tears (IIDX Edition) has that same problem, too. The Heavy chart is just kind of bland.

Those aside, I'd love it if Genom Screams got a Challenge chart.

Post #7 · Posted at 2015-03-01 07:51:00pm 9.1 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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Hmm, I think Saber Wing's charts suit it pretty nicely. It's a very fast song and doesn't have that boss song level vibe so adding 16th's or anything else would be overkill imo.

Post #8 · Posted at 2015-03-01 08:43:32pm 9.1 years ago

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Yeah, I guess I can see that, certainly not every song needs to be absurdly difficult. I guess it's just those repetitive crossovers before the slowdown. I love crossovers for the most part, but that part just feels a bit uninspired.

Post #9 · Posted at 2015-03-02 03:47:36am 9.1 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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True.

One song that is WAY under-stepped is S.A.G.A. I mean, just listen to it and look at the chart.

There are opportunities everywhere for little 16th bursts and 1:06 could make for an awesome little stream.

Post #10 · Posted at 2015-03-02 04:06:41am 9.1 years ago

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I'm surprised no one said this yet, but RED ZONE definitely should get a Challenge chart. Like duh. So many opportunities for 16th notes.
It could be a 15 easily, maybe even a 16.
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Post #11 · Posted at 2015-03-02 01:53:21pm 9.1 years ago

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Probably most songs with poor Heavy charts. I can think of 5.1.1, 20, November (DDR Version), provided things don't go overboard like My Fire's case.
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Post #12 · Posted at 2015-03-02 01:55:51pm 9.1 years ago

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Most of the CLUB VERSION songs need harder charts.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #13 · Posted at 2015-03-02 03:19:10pm 9.1 years ago

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Quote: darkanine
I'm surprised no one said this yet, but RED ZONE definitely should get a Challenge chart. Like duh. So many opportunities for 16th notes.
It could be a 15 easily, maybe even a 16.

Someone made one back when it was new that I love and I put at as a 17. Crazy 16th stream after the 'drop'.

Actually there's a bunch from SN1&2 that I have Challenge for, some my own...

AA Challenge - 17
CSFIL super euro version Challenge -12
Curus Challenge - 13
My Only Shining Star Challenge - 12
No. 13 Challenge - 18
rainbow rainbow Challenge - 14

Jupiter The Bringer of Jollity Challenge - 12
Poseidon Challenge - 14
Saturn Challenge - 14 <- beta chart
Trust - Challenge - 12
Votum Stellarum Challenge - 16

Post #14 · Posted at 2015-03-03 01:13:01pm 9.1 years ago

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I'm actually of the opinion that near enough every chart without a challenge chart should have one (and I'm currently in my spare time making challenge charts for the entire of DDR 2014's official songlist, re-imagining them as Enjoy level unlocks [105 unlocks 1st Mix Challenge charts, 110 2nd Mix and so on]).

There's a lot of interesting stuff that could be done, particularly as we have started seeing 16th streams and 24ths used a little more readily (Saber Wing -Silhouette-) but that's not to say that I think all songs require more difficult charts, but some could go to slightly different rhythms ala Sakura and Kakumei or, you know, shock arrows, because Konami.
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Post #15 · Posted at 2015-03-03 03:33:54pm 9.1 years ago

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5.1.1. could use a Challenge chart. It doesn't even have to be harder, it just has to not be as stupid as the Heavy.

EDIT: I also support the idea of taking the Challenge remixes, giving them their EuroMIX 2 charts, and then maybe new Challenges for some of them.

Post #16 · Posted at 2015-03-03 04:02:24pm 9.1 years ago

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Quote: Highflyer
There's a lot of interesting stuff that could be done, particularly as we have started seeing 16th streams and 24ths used a little more readily (Saber Wing -Silhouette-) but that's not to say that I think all songs require more difficult charts, but some could go to slightly different rhythms ala Sakura and Kakumei or, you know, shock arrows, because Konami.

Well Kakumei did get a 14 Challenge in X2 but I wasn't a fan of the song to begin with. There's a very good V (for Extreme) edit out there that's a solid 18.

For my personal taste in charts, I'm not a big fan of "death runs" unless they go with the song. The AA Challenge chart I mentioned is basically giant 16th runs with a few obvious breaks and it's boring. Just because the rhythm is there, doesn't mean it's a "fun" one.

Sorry to go off-topic and if I stand corrected, but I don't think there any shock arrow charts in DDR 2014 which surprises me.

Post #17 · Posted at 2015-03-03 05:46:01pm 9.1 years ago

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Unborn was a super disappointing final unlock for Universe 2. Good song, but really? An 8? They could have made a Challenge 10 out of it, probably.

Also, KEEP ON MOVING (Orbit1 Remix), for about the same reason. It felt out of place in the middle of Universe 3's boss rush. Maybe not a 10, but definitely a hard 9.

PARADISE will probably never be on an arcade DDR at this rate but I'm still holding out hope for it to also get a Challenge chart.

Post #18 · Posted at 2015-03-03 10:01:10pm 9.1 years ago

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This is rather long, but here are my considerations:

Baby Baby Gimme Your Love Challenge - 11
Keep On Movin' Challenge - 12
5.1.1 Challenge - 11
Love This Feelin' (Let's face it, the Heavy chart is garbage.) Challenge - 14 or 15
Think Ya Better D Challenge - 12
Let the beat hit em! (Classic R&B Style) Challenge - 12
1998 Challenge - 13
air (Have it have more jumps to live up to its name) Challenge - 13
Cutie Chaser (Morning Mix) Challenge - 12
e-motion Challenge - 13
LOVE♥SHINE Challenge - 13 or 14
Can Be Real Challenge - 13
rainbow rainbow Challenge - 13
un deux trois Challenge - 12 or 13
Stars (Re-Tuned By Hal) Challenge - 13
Malacca Challenge - 12
On The Break Challenge - 15 or 16
puzzle Challenge - 11
Take A Chance Challenge - 12
TimeHollow Challenge - 12
Love Again Challenge - 11 or 12
Love Is The Power -Re:born- Challenge - 13 or 14
osaka EVOLVED (all 3 versions) Challenge - 16 or 17
tokyo EVOLVED (all 3 versions) Challenge - 17

Post #19 · Posted at 2015-03-04 12:59:01am 9.1 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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Do you know that un deux trois and Malacca have official Challenge charts or are you saying they need different ones?

Couldn't find a video from the actual game (Ultramix 4) so here's mine.

Post #20 · Posted at 2015-03-04 05:12:30pm 9.1 years ago

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Pierce The Sky Challenge - 16
FIRE FIRE Challenge - 16 or 17
Wicked Plastik Challenge - 15
Haunted Rhapsody Challenge - 14 or 15
Private Eye Challenge - 14
Time Challenge - 12
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