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Post #1 · Posted at 2014-04-20 06:02:28pm 9.9 years ago

Offline Nix
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Man, I HATE mines!!! I was FFCing Maid of Fire on pad (bar a few pad excellents, greats, goods, way offs and misses and also dropped holds but they were pad) and then my score was RUINED by hitting a mine! Not only that, but the reason I "hit" it was because the pads STUCK!!! Why are mines even IN the game? All they do is punish the player for just BEING on the pads! IMO we should remove these unfair artificial difficulty items that are spammed by noobs on their stepcharts who can't make their stepcharts difficult LEGITIMATELY!

Post #2 · Posted at 2014-04-20 06:12:54pm 9.9 years ago

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Just use the option "No Mines" if you're that much of a wuss.
If you're pads are bad, fix them.

Also, I don't see many mines being implemented in charts.

Post #3 · Posted at 2014-04-20 06:15:46pm 9.9 years ago

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In my opinion, arrows are artificial difficulty! I managed to dodge all the mines on my custom Caramelldansen stepchart, and then my score was RUINED by missing an arrow! Not only that, but the reason I "missed" it was because the pads STUCK!! Why are arrows even IN the game? All they do is punish the player for just NOT BEING on the pads! IMO we should remove these unfair artificial difficulty items simply because I do not like them.

So uh, yeah, what Aegis said.
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Post #4 · Posted at 2014-04-20 06:18:23pm 9.9 years ago

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If you don't dig mines, then play charts that don't utilize mines. Or better yet, do what Aegis said and use the "No Mines" mod. Or get better at dodging mines through practice and perseverance as you're gonna come across them in simfiles one way or another.

Post #5 · Posted at 2014-04-20 06:19:56pm 9.9 years ago

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Don't enlighten him about those things called shock arrows...

Post #6 · Posted at 2014-04-20 06:56:37pm 9.9 years ago

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Post #7 · Posted at 2014-04-20 07:26:28pm 9.9 years ago

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Wow, you guys could try being nicer. Sheesh.

Post #8 · Posted at 2014-04-20 07:37:00pm 9.9 years ago

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(bar a few pad excellents, greats, goods, way offs and misses and also dropped holds but they were pad)
see, here's your problem. you shouldn't use the bar when playing ITG, because that artificially deflates the difficulty, and ITG charts are supposed to be as difficult as possible
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Post #9 · Posted at 2014-04-20 07:50:53pm 9.9 years ago

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Why are mines even IN the game? All they do is punish the player for just BEING on the pads!

They're in the game to provide a bit of an extra challenge. Well, in theory. It's just that some people abuse the shit out of them when making stepcharts, kinda like how people make 16th note arrow barf charts to every Dragonforce song ever. Yeah, those things are completely played out, but I avoid those charts because I don't enjoy them. Problem solved.

Just look for different charts that either have less mines or no mines at all.
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Post #10 · Posted at 2014-04-20 07:54:57pm 9.9 years ago

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Post #11 · Posted at 2014-04-20 09:57:24pm 9.9 years ago

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Post #12 · Posted at 2014-04-20 11:51:23pm 9.9 years ago

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I don't know why you're even complaining when as mentioned you can easily just turn them off in the mods menu if they piss you off that much.

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Wow, you guys could try being nicer. Sheesh.

people would've probably reacted nicer if the OP wasn't so harsh and whiny.


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Post #13 · Posted at 2014-04-21 12:32:39am 9.9 years ago

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Post #14 · Posted at 2014-04-21 06:50:40am 9.9 years ago

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Man, I HATE mines!!! I was FFCing Maid of Fire on pad (bar a few pad excellents, greats, goods, way offs and misses and also dropped holds but they were pad) and then my score was RUINED by hitting a mine! Not only that, but the reason I "hit" it was because the pads STUCK!!! Why are mines even IN the game? All they do is punish the player for just BEING on the pads! IMO we should remove these unfair artificial difficulty items that are spammed by noobs on their stepcharts in leiu of making a decent stepchart!
Hi, welcome to stepmania/ITG, where everyone has to cater to your needs.

Post #15 · Posted at 2014-04-21 06:56:36am 9.9 years ago

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Wow, you guys could try being nicer. Sheesh.

OP is a known cockwomble. It's OK.
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Post #16 · Posted at 2014-04-21 06:58:34am 9.9 years ago

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AnonyWolf is artificial difficulty.

Post #17 · Posted at 2014-04-21 04:54:01pm 9.9 years ago

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AnonyWolf is artificial difficulty.

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Post #18 · Posted at 2014-04-21 05:07:23pm 9.9 years ago

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Two days ago I accidentally played without No Mines for the first time in probably 3 years. I hit a lot of mines. Mines are dumb. "cmod + no mines" for life.

Post #19 · Posted at 2014-04-21 06:19:28pm 9.9 years ago

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It's a video game, whats wrong with artifical difficulty? DDR does the same thing with no recover/battery lifebars and the like.

Mines are actually a gimmick I like, hands are what I truely hate.

Post #20 · Posted at 2014-04-21 08:58:53pm 9.9 years ago

Offline Peter Lawrence
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I think mines were some dumb afterthought made up somewhere in the stepmania laboratory. I do not think that they add anything to the game other than to make your $800 go boom.
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