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Post #41 · Posted at 2013-08-29 01:34:19am 10.5 years ago

Offline Astroman129
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How are you able to justify this activity as "okay"?

Because very few Stepmania packages have music videos and when they do they are often offered in a quality lower than they are available in.

I legitimately respect your mentality. But I would have SERIOUSLY liked if you asked me first. I would have said yes.

And I'm sure everyone else whose files were used would agree.

Also, if this is a "best hits" pack, you probably shouldn't be using my files, anyway Tongue

Post #42 · Posted at 2013-08-29 01:37:05am 10.5 years ago

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How are you able to justify this activity as "okay"?

Because very few Stepmania packages have music videos and when they do they are often offered in a quality lower than they are available in.

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Post #43 · Posted at 2013-08-29 01:37:15am 10.5 years ago

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Post #44 · Posted at 2013-08-29 01:37:59am 10.5 years ago

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Post #45 · Posted at 2013-08-29 01:40:57am 10.5 years ago

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I'm also surprised at the fact that you found two of my really old edits from the FFR database I made like... WAY back when. Kudos to you, I guess?

Whatever. I'm just gonna leave it at that. Good luck with your apocalypse that is the Greatest of StepMania. Seems like we have a new A-Ral.
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Post #46 · Posted at 2013-08-29 01:42:52am 10.5 years ago

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Because very few Stepmania packages have music videos and when they do they are often offered in a quality lower than they are available in.

That's nice, but the problem is that you're making your own package of this stuff. The excuse you give only justifies you sending said files to the creators and asking if they'd be willing to update the simfiles they release.

However, since it is your own package, what Silver said very much applies. For example, in the weird early days of TrotMania, we used some official DDR tracks for the game. Depending on the situation, we either remade the whole chart set or we gave the song a brand, spanking new Challenge chart and made it the focal point of the simfile. We also featured several other simfile artists' brony simfiles, but we asked and received permission to do so. If you're going to pull this stunt off, you need to actually make something new in terms of steps and/or collaborate with the step artists who you feature. Otherwise, as in this situation, you appear a naive person with good but skewed intentions making a scandalous mess.

You're gonna need to reconsider the aims of this project or the means of its operation or else I see this thread going up in smoke like the last one.

Post #47 · Posted at 2013-08-29 01:43:35am 10.5 years ago

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Don't try reasoning with him, Addict. It's not worth it.

Post #48 · Posted at 2013-08-29 02:02:47am 10.5 years ago

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If you're going to pull this stunt off, you need to actually make something new in terms of steps and/or collaborate with the step artists who you feature. Otherwise, as in this situation, you appear a naive person with good but skewed intentions making a scandalous mess.

You're gonna need to reconsider the aims of this project or the means of its operation or else I see this thread going up in smoke like the last one.

That is just a question of when. I am working on a song right now that is going to have new steps.
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Post #49 · Posted at 2013-08-29 02:04:10am 10.5 years ago

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Because it isn't stolen. I believe in derivative works. If it's stealing it would the exact same thing without improvements.
So it's okay if i steal take your "project", change one pixel in an random banner and release it as MY work ? Because it derivate from yours.

That's just stupid as hell.

This reminds me several years ago (like 6-7 years) when i was chilling with RPG Maker Xp. I Spent like 4-5 hours on a single map and a friend stole me.
His answer "No look it's different, i changed a window here and there".

When you use someone's work, no matter what, how :
- ASK PERMISSION
- GIVE CREDITS EVEN IF YOU DID SOME MODIFICATIONS

That's manners 101.

If you came out with description of the project and talk about this to people here, i'm sure a bunch of them would gladly share their work and give you advice here and there. Not like your project is a total bad idea but the way you executated it is pretty terrible.
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Post #50 · Posted at 2013-08-29 02:26:08am 10.5 years ago

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Daniel, it doesn't matter if you think some simfiles are bad because they don't have music videos, these stepcharts are people's work and it's no different than when people steal credit from any artist on anything that isn't made by them. Antoine_Ralic pulled the exact same shit a while back and what a shocker he got banned (and is generally reviled upon here might I add). You need to ASK for this stuff first before anything else; konami has to get permission from artists first before anything before putting licenses in the game, otherwise they'd be sued really damn quickly. Now can you actually get in trouble for this legally? Technically no if the game itself is free (but then again,sending harddrives shit), but you are certainly giving yourself a bad image as a stepartist and game designer in general.

I just don't know really what else to say dude, except what everyone else has been saying. This entire project so far has been a complete joke from the very beginning on multiple sites and for whatever reason you're just too stubborn to realize that what you've "made" has been a total waste of time and energy. If you want to be good at something, realize that you have to accept the fact that not everything you make is gonna be good, throw it out, and try better on the next project.
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Post #51 · Posted at 2013-08-29 02:49:58am 10.5 years ago

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I will try it your way for awhile. I will get rid of the original Stepmania packages until permission is given.
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Post #52 · Posted at 2013-08-29 04:51:39am 10.5 years ago

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i thought i killed the other thread for a reason

Post #53 · Posted at 2013-08-29 04:59:33am 10.5 years ago

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I will try it your way for awhile. I will get rid of the original Stepmania packages until permission is given.
I'm not sure you'll be given much permission now.
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