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Post #1 · Posted at 2012-05-21 07:26:19pm 11.8 years ago

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I hate to create a separate thread for this, but I think people uninterested in SimPhony may be at least interested in this. I basically need the first measure of every official DDR chart found in DDR X/X2.

Why don't you just look at the simfile?
Because a lot of the simfiles are just plain wrong. The way to determine the "first measure" of a song is to watch the song on an official machine. Once the arrows start to flash white (to the beat), start counting (1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4) the measures. Once the first arrow appears, that's the measure the first measure of the song. An example discrepancy is Paranoia's simfile here on ZIV is listed as measure 6 containing the first measure, however, the official chart lists measure 2 as having the first arrow.

So I am requesting the help of ZIV! The easiest way to get the first measure is to watch a youtube video of a song played on an arcade cabinet. Once the arrows start to flash, start counting the number of measures until the first arrow reaches the top. Count _that_ measure as the first measure.

I suggest that if anyone wants to help, make claim on a "section" of songs (probably best to say "I'll do the A's") then repost with the updated list. Here's a list of all the songs that I have confirmed so far. All songs that have the first measure confirmed needs to be bolded:

59
1998
30 Lives (Up-Up-Down-Dance Mix)
321STARS
888
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A
A
A Geisha's Dream
A Stupid Barber
A thing called LOVE
AA
ABSOLUTE
Abyss
Across the nightmare
AFRONOVA
AFRONOVA (FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX)
AFRONOVA (X-Special)
AFRONOVA PRIMEVAL
AFTER THE GAME OF LOVE
aftershock!!
air
All My Love
Always On My Mind
AM-3P
AM-3P (303 BASS MIX)
AM-3P (AM EAST mix)
AM-3P("CHAOS" Special)
ANGELUS
Anti-Matter
Arrabbiata
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B4U
B4U (B4 ZA BEAT MIX)
B4U("VOLTAGE" Special)
BABY BABY GIMME YOUR LOVE
BAD ROUTINE
bag
Baile Le Samba
BALLAD FOR YOU
BALLAD THE FEATHERS
BE LOVIN
Be your wings
Beautiful Inside (Cube::Hard Mix)
Big Girls Don't Cry
Blind Justice ~Torn souls, Hurt Faiths~
Bloody Tears(IIDX EDITION)
Blue Impulse (for EXTREME)
Blue Rain
Bonafied Lovin'
Boys (2008 X-edit)
Brazilian Anthem
BRE?K DOWN!
BRILLIANT 2U
BRILLIANT 2U (K.O.G. G3 MIX)
BRILLIANT 2U
BRILLIANT 2U("STREAM" Special)
BROKEN MY HEART
BURNIN' THE FLOOR
BURNIN' THE FLOOR (BLUE FIRE mix)
Burning Heat! (3 Option Mix)
Butterfly (2008 X-edit)
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cachaca
Callico Cat rock
Can Be Real
CAN'T STOP FALLIN' IN LOVE (SPEED MIX)
CAN'T STOP FALLIN' IN LOVE (super euro version)
CAN'T STOP FALLIN'IN LOVE
CANDY?
CANDY? (X-Special)
CANDY?
CAPTAIN JACK Grandale Mix (X2)
CaptivAte~Chikai~
CELEBRATE NITE
CELEBRATE NITE (EURO TRANCE STYLE)
CENTAUR
CG Project - 5
Chance and Dice
CHAOS
Chikara
Colors
Crazy Control
CURUS
CUTIE CHASER
CUTIE CHASER (MORNING MIX)
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D2R
D2R("FREEZE" Special)
DAFT PUNK IS PLAYING AT MY HOUSE
Daikenkai
DAM DARIRAM (X2)
Dance Celebration
Dance Celebration (System 7 Remix)
Dance Dance Revolution
Dance Dance Revolution (X-Special)
Dance Floor
DanDanDo
dazzle
Dazzlin' Darlin
Dazzlin' Darlin-AKBKmix-
DEAD END
DEAD END("GROOVE RADAR" Special)
Decade
deltaMAX
DESTINY
Destiny lovers
dirty digital
DIVE TO THE NIGHT
DoLL
Don't Stop! (AMD 2nd MIX)
Dragon Blade
Dream Machine
dream of love
DROP
DROP OUT
DROP OUT (FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX)
DROP THE BOMB
DROP THE BOMB (SySF. Mix)
DUB-I-DUB (2008 X-edit)
Dummy
DXY!
DYNAMITE RAVE
DYNAMITE RAVE("AIR" Special)
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e-motion
ECSTASY
ECSTASY (midnight blue mix)
Electrified
Electro Tuned(the SubS mix)
era (nostalmix)
ETERNITY
Every Day, Every Night(NM STYLE)
Everytime We Touch
exotic ethnic
EZ DO DANCE
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Fascination MAXX
Fascination ~eternal love mix~
Feel
Feel Good Inc.
Feelings Won't Fade (Extend Trance Mix)
FIRE
FIRE FIRE
Flight of the Phoenix
Flourish
Flow
Flow (True Style)
Flow(Jammin' Ragga Mix)
Fly away
Fly away -mix del matador-
Forever Sunshine
Freedom
Freeway Shuffle
Freeze
Frozen Ray (for EXTREME)
Yellow CANDY
Funk Boogie
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Gamelan de Couple
Gekkou chou
GENOM SCREAMS
GET UP'N MOVE (2008 X-edit)
Ghetto Blasta Deluxe
GIRIGILI
going up
GOLD RUSH
GOLDEN SKY
GORGEOUS 2012
Gotta Dance
GRADIUSIC CYBER (AMD G5 MIX)
GRADUATION
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Hana Ranman -Flowers-
Happy
HAPPY ANGEL
Happy Wedding
Healing Vision
Healing Vision (Angelic mix)
Healing Vision (X-Special)
Healing-D-Vision
Heatstroke
Heaven is a '57 metallic gray (gimmix)
Here It Goes Again
HERO (2008 X-edit)
Hide-away
HIGHER
HIGHER (next morning mix)
Himiwari
Holic
Horatio
HYPER EUROBEAT
HYSTERIA
HYSTERIA 2001
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i feel...
I Need You
I'm gonna get you!
ICE ICE BABY
IF YOU WERE HERE
IF YOU WERE HERE (L.E.D.-G STYLE REMIX)
iFUTURELIST(DDR VERSION)
in love wit you
INNOCENCE OF SILENCE
INSERTiON
INSIDE YOUR HEART
Inspiration
INTO YOUR HEART (Ruffage remix)
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Jam&Marmalade
JANEJANA
JET WORLD
Jupiter Bringer of Jollity
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Kagerow
Kakumei
Kakumei (X-Special)
KEEP ON MOVIN'
KEEP ON MOVIN'(DMX Mix)
KIMONO?PRINCESS
Kind Lady
KISS KISS KISS
KISS KISS KISS AKBK MIX
KISS ME ALL NIGHT LONG
Koko Soko
konoko no nanatsu no oiwaini
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L'amour et la liberté (Darwin & DJ Silver remix)
L'amour et la liberté (DDR Ver.)
La Bamba
LA BAMBA
La libertad
La receta
La Senorita
La Senorita Virtual
LEADING CYBER
Leaving···
Let the beat hit em! (CLASSIC R&B STYLE)
Lift You Up
LOGICAL DASH
Love Again
LOVE AGAIN TONIGHT (For Melissa MIX)
LOVE IS ORANGE
LOVE SHINE
Love Sugar
LOVE THIS FEELIN'
LOVING YOU (Epidemik remix)
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Make A Difference
MAKE IT BETTER
Make Me Cry
Malacca
MARIA (I believe...)
MARS WAR 3
MAX 300
MAX 300 (X-Special)
MAX 300(Super-Max-Me Mix)
MAX LOVE
MAXIMIZER
MAXX UNLIMITED
MAXX UNLIMITED (X-Special)
Mei
Melody Life
Midnight Special
Mind Parasite
Miracle Moon -L.E.D. LIGHT STYLE MIX-
Monkey Punk
MOON
MOONSTER
more more more
Mugen
murmur twins
Music In The Rhythm
My Only Shining Star
MY SUMMER LOVE
MY SUMMER LOVE (TOMMY'S SMILE MIX)
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New Decade
NGO
NIJIIRO
No.13
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oarfish
on the bounce
On The Break
only my railgun
ORION.78 (AMeuro-MIX)
ORION.78 (civilization mix)
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PARANOiA
PARANOiA (HADES)
PARANOiA -Respect-
PARANOiA ETERNAL
PARANOiA ETERNAL (X-Special)
PARANOiA EVOLUTION
PARANOiA EVOLUTION (X-Special)
PARANOiA KCET (clean mix)
PARANOiA MAX (DIRTY MIX)
PARANOiA MAX~DIRTY MIX~ (X-Special)
PARANOiA Rebirth
PARANOiA Rebirth (X-Special)
PARANOiA survivor
PARANOIA survivor MAX
PARANOiA(X-Special)
Party Lights
PASSION OF LOVE
Pierce The Sky
Pink Rose
Playa (Original Mix)
Pluto
Pluto Relinquish
Pluto The First
Polovtsian Dances And Chorus
poririzumu
Poseidon
Poseidon(kors k mix)
POSSESSION
Put 'Em Up
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME(SATURDAY NIGHT MIX)
puzzle
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Quick Master
Quickening
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rain of sorrow
rainbow flyer
rainbow rainbow
Raspberry Heart
Reach Up
real-high-SPEED
RED ZONE - 5
resonance
Rin To Shite Saku Hana No Gotoku
roppongi EVOLVED ver. A
roppongi EVOLVED ver. B
roppongi EVOLVED ver. C
roppongi EVOLVED ver. D
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SABER WING
SABER WING (AKIRA ISHIHARA Headshot mix)
Sacred Oath
SAGA
Sakura
sakura storm
Sakura Sunrise
SANA MOLLETE NE ENTE
Saturday Night Love
Saturn
Scorching Moon
Second Heaven
Secret Rendez-vous
SEDUCTION
SEDUCTION(Vocal Remix)
Sekai Ha Odoru
SEXY PLANET
SEXY PLANET (FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX)
Shades of Grey
She is my wife
Shine
shining
Shiny World
Silent Hill
Silent Hill (3rd christmas mix)
Silver Platform -I wanna get your heart-
Ska Ska No.3
Sky Is The Limit
Slip Out
Slip Out (bounce in beat mix)
smooooch
SO IN LOVE
someday...
SOUL CRASH
SP-TRIP MACHINE (JUNGLE MIX)
SP-TRIP MACHINE~JUNGLE MIX~ (X-Special)
Star Gate Heaven
Star Gate Heaven (FUTURE LOVE Mix)
STARS (Re-tuned by H?L) -DDR EDITION-
STARS(2nd NAOKI's style)
STAY (Organic house Version)
stealth
STILL IN MY HEART
STILL IN MY HEART (MOMO MIX)
stoic (EXTREME version)
Suki Melo
SUNKiSS DROP
Super Driver
SUPER EUROBEAT
SUPER SAMURAI
SUPER STAR
SUPER STAR (FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX)
Sweet Sweet Love Magic
Swingin'
switch
sync (EXTREME version)
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Tabibito
Taj He Spitz
Taj He Spitz (Tommie Sunshine's Brooklyn Fire Re-Touch)
Take A Chance
Taking It To The Sky
TEARS
TENSHI
The flower in your smile
The Least 100sec
The legend of MAX
The legend of MAX (X-Special)
THE SHINING POLARIS
think ya better D
THIS NIGHT
Ticket To Bombay
TIERRA BUENA
Till the lonely's gone
Time After Time
TimeHollow
Tino's White Horse
TOMORROW
Tomorrow Perfume
Tracers (4Beat Remix)
Trickster
Trigger
Trim
TRIP MACHINE
TRIP MACHINE (luv mix)
TRIP MACHINE CLIMAX
TRIP MACHINE CLIMAX (X-Special)
TRIP MACHINE PhoeniX
TRIP MACHINE Survivor
TRIP MACHINE(X-Special)
TRUE LOVE
Trust -DanceDanceRevolution mix-
Try 2 Luv. U
TSUGARU
TSUGARU (APPLE MIX)
Twin Bee(Generation X)
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U Can't Touch This
Übertreffen
un deux trois
Under The Sky
Unreal
Uranus
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V (for EXTREME)
Valkyrie dimension
VANESSA
VANITY ANGEL
Vem brincar
Venus
volcano
Votum stellarum -forest #25 DDR RMX-
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Waiting 4 u
We Come Alive
We've Got To Make It Tonight
WH1TE RO5E
What Will Come of Me
Why not
WILD RUSH
WILD RUSH (FROM NONSTOP MEGAMIX)
will
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xenon - 5
Xepher - 6
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You are a star
You gotta move it (feat. Julie Rugaard)
Your Angel
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-ZERO- - 5
ZETA - 7

Post #2 · Posted at 2012-05-21 07:32:54pm 11.8 years ago

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for starters, I'll do X (lol)

so for xenon. First note is at measure 5, according to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMby7vucofo

and for Xepher, first note is at measure 6, according to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4T-lFEG_oQ
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Post #3 · Posted at 2012-05-21 08:03:38pm 11.8 years ago

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I also suggest to re-rip all audio (minus DDR II category) and re-update their sm file, since most of the audio in simfile database have their silence in the beginning cut. This way, it won't ask for the starting measure. Originally, DDR audio have silence of not more than 1 measure in the beginning and always leave song offset value to 0. AFAIK, this was only applied to DDR II simfile category. I don't know if they are applicable in older mixes that were not being revived in the newer mixes (e.g. some songs from DDR 5thMIX and below).

Alternatively, if they don't allow audio re-ripping, they can just adjust their starting music from measure 1 to 2 (that leaves silence in the beginning) and adjust everything (sample preview, steps, bpm changes and stops) by 1 measure advance.

Post #4 · Posted at 2012-05-21 08:05:53pm 11.8 years ago

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Quote: razorblade
I also suggest to re-rip all audio (minus DDR II category) and re-update their sm file, since most of the audio in simfile database have their silence in the beginning cut. This way, it won't ask for the starting measure. Originally, DDR audio have silence of not more than 1 measure in the beginning and always leave song offset value to 0. AFAIK, this was only applied to DDR II simfile category. I don't know if they are applicable in older mixes that were not being revived in the newer mixes (e.g. some songs from DDR 5thMIX and below).

Alternatively, if they don't allow audio re-ripping, they can just adjust their starting music from measure 1 to 2 (that leaves silence in the beginning) and adjust everything (sample preview, steps, bpm changes and stops) by 1 measure advance.

This isn't about fixing the sims that currently exist. This is simply about getting the first measures of the given songs for my simfile to arcade edit data converter.

Post #5 · Posted at 2012-05-21 08:12:19pm 11.8 years ago

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Z's

零 -ZERO- starts 1st beat of measure 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4VM9PTH4PA)
ZETA~素数の世界と超越者~ starts 1st beat of measure 7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71C94f3O9Hw)
nice.

Post #6 · Posted at 2012-05-21 08:13:36pm 11.8 years ago

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@razorblade it's not as convenient as that. If you have played X2, you may notice that in some songs, the album art does not go away immediately, though all X2 songs do the opposite. It's because the album art goes away together with the "READY" text.

Songs from older mixes has their measure 1 well past the start of the song, like PARANOiA, BRILLIANT 2U, you name it.

in short, look at this:


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I know. My point is, if they didn't removed the silence during audio ripping , or adjust 1 extra measure before the music start during simfile editing, asking for every song's first measure wouldn't be a problem.


EDIT:
After seeing the B2U vid, i can see the the music start at measure 2. In sm file we had, the music start at measure 1. I remember during my stepchart rip from DDR EXTREME , music start at measure 2.

Post #8 · Posted at 2012-05-21 08:24:29pm 11.8 years ago

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Thanks guys! X's and Z's updated Happy

Post #9 · Posted at 2012-05-21 10:05:30pm 11.8 years ago

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err, music start and stepchart start is a different thing.

in the simfile I obtained from ZIv, the first note occurs on measure 7. In actual AC data, it starts on measure 2. (you want to take note of this Daiz)

and btw, I have 2ndMIX CS, so I can check the songs there.

and if you're talking about music start, ZIv's simfile starts at measure 1 (a bit before that though), but AC data, the music starts way back before the first measure.
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Post #10 · Posted at 2012-05-21 10:11:32pm 11.8 years ago

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Quote: Silverhawke
in the simfile I obtained from ZIv, the first note occurs on measure 7. In actual AC data, it starts on measure 2. (you want to take note of this Daiz)

I am. The point of all of this is if we have the first measure of a song recorded then whatever your simfile is won't matter as the converter will detect the first measure if your simfile (assuming it contains official data) and compare it to the official art and add/remove measures as needed.

However, if your simfile lacks official steps at all, then the converter can't determine the correct measure alignment.

Post #11 · Posted at 2012-05-22 12:27:50am 11.8 years ago

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oh, I forgot to ask, but what will happen with a simfile that's off by quarter beats instead of a whole measure? (a la SUPER SAMURAI)

Also,

.59 - 3
1998 - 3
30 Lives (Up-Up-Down-Dance Mix) - 5
321STARS - a quarter note before 3rd measure. i.e. 2.75 (lol)
888 - a quarter note before 5th measure
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Post #12 · Posted at 2012-05-22 02:33:51am 11.8 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
I think Daiz is only interested in knowing how many totally blank measures lead off each song. If 321 STARS has a note late in the third measure, then the answer is 2.

Post #13 · Posted at 2012-05-22 02:38:32am 11.8 years ago

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Actually for what Silverhawke is referring to, the ziv file for Super Samurai is actually a whole beat behind what the official chart is. i.e. the official chart starts on measure 3 note 1 but ziv starts on measure 2 note 2, making it a measure ahead and a beat behind. I'm not sure how I'm going to handle this situation yet.

Post #14 · Posted at 2012-05-22 02:43:09am 11.8 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
By fixing the simfile that's in the database?

Post #15 · Posted at 2012-05-22 02:44:01am 11.8 years ago

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lol that would be my favorite option honestly

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Daiz, I can give you all the offsets using arcade data. Give me a few examples of where the first notes begin and I can do the lot in about 30 mins. ;)
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Daiz, I can give you all the offsets using arcade data. Give me a few examples of where the first notes begin and I can do the lot in about 30 mins. ;)

!!!

CG Project - Measure 5
Paranoia - Measure 2
Red Zone - Measure 5

Need more? Big Grin

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Daiz, I can give you all the offsets using arcade data. Give me a few examples of where the first notes begin and I can do the lot in about 30 mins. ;)

!!!

CG Project - Measure 5
Paranoia - Measure 2
Red Zone - Measure 5

Need more? Big Grin

The only one I see correct is CG Project. I am using X2AC as a basis, everyone elses values are perfect.

I'll just send you ripped SSQs in SM format. You just have to minus one bar from the AC SM.
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Ah ok I actually pulled Paranoia and Red Zone off the top of my head, CG Project I had actually confirmed via video. Either way this is a huge help, I appreciate it Brazen!

Post #20 · Posted at 2012-05-22 07:31:30pm 11.8 years ago

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I'm guessing that Red Zone is supposed to be 4, and PARANOiA is 5, right?

Also, X2 simfiles in here is ripped directly from the machine right? Because whenever I make edits for them, I just need to erase one measure off the simfile.
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