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Post #301 · Posted at 2012-05-06 08:17:27am 2.3 years ago

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My controversial opinion is...
For me, IIDX becomes gradually worse (starting from SIRIUS, I believe) in terms of songs. Old IIDX songs have a distinct, unique style of music that created a diversity between songs, all while until today, we still listen to the same monotonous sound.
I don't know if I could define today IIDX's as having "monotonous sound", but I agree with everything else here.
Though pre-RED IIDXs will always be my favorites Tongue
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Post #302 · Posted at 2012-05-06 08:43:12am 2.3 years ago

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Quote: Maestro Grithok S
What I'm saying is that bringing in doujin artists seems like it would/should be a last-ditch effort to save the dying music genre, and, last I looked everything was still going fine with BEMANI.
It seems that at least since SIRIUS (though more obvious since Resort Anthem), they've been trying to bring in new artists, probably to keep things a little more varied. Part of that was getting those doujin artists, probably because it wasn't too hard for many of them.

After all, people such as Ax (if he really is onoken), Masayoshi Minoshima, REDALiCE, cosMo@暴走P, ゆうゆ, sasakure.UK, and OSTER project all seem to be (or at least have been) fans of BEMANI, as most of them have made BMS files or the like (especially Ax/onoken, ゆうゆ, and sasakure.UK). I recall seeing information about Masayoshi Minoshima making a BMS file once, though I don't recall the song name or alias used, and I can't find the information anymore. REDALiCE apparently made a BMS file, but I think the samples in taboo tears you up are reasonable proof. As for OSTER project, he's been a IIDX player for 10 years according to BEMANIwiki.
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Post #303 · Posted at 2012-05-06 09:07:26am 2.3 years ago

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The only songs by TERRA that I like are switch, Tenjou no Hoshi ~Reimeiki~ and Parasite World.

Sota Fujimori is the best when it comes to DDR songs and only for DDR.
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Post #304 · Posted at 2012-05-06 09:50:44am 2.3 years ago

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I loved playing PS2 DDRs with Hands and Feet.
All the Wii DDR are amazing, with a slight exception of II since it does not have any motion gameplay.
I hate how there are barely any Bemani Material being traded around. I really want to get my hands on the demos from HP and HP2.

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Post #305 · Posted at 2012-05-06 10:15:50am 2.3 years ago

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Quote: Maestro Grithok S

...That's a problem? Take any given BEMANI game save SVB. You have your Ryu happy hardcore, your Yoshitaka trancecore, your L.E.D-G gabba, your wac, your seiya, your TOMOSUKE, your Tatsh. It's served BEMANI well for years, and we've never complained about it because it's always been fresh, to a certain degree. (Except for Yoshitaka.) What I'm saying is that bringing in doujin artists seems like it would/should be a last-ditch effort to save the dying music genre, and, last I looked everything was still going fine with BEMANI.

Ah, well. Guess that's what jubeat is for, then?

What's so wrong about bringing in new artists into the game?

It spices the game up and makes it interesting, and best of all, it doesn't make the Beatnation artists anymore obsolete.

And I wouldn't term people like Redalice or Hommarju as doujin artists anymore since they are very well known among the EDM crowd in Japan.

Post #306 · Posted at 2012-05-06 10:55:35am 2.3 years ago

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Post #307 · Posted at 2012-05-06 10:57:25am 2.3 years ago

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Post #308 · Posted at 2012-07-15 05:47:37pm 2.1 years ago

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- I like Jun, Yoshitaka and TAG.
- Silent Hill (+ remix) is the most underrated DDR song.
- DDR needs faster non-boss songs.
- We need another 19 footer.
- PARANOiA Revolution is the second-best PARANOiA mix, after KCET.
- PH Challenge is good.
- The .59 remix actually is ok.
- Unlocking in DDRII is too tedious.
- The last part in VANESSA is literally impossible without either spinning which is too hard on 180 BPM (?) 12ths, or doublestepping.
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Post #309 · Posted at 2012-07-15 05:56:04pm 2.1 years ago

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While newer DDR's have been made, I would much rather get my hands on the DDR CLUB VERSiONS and play them. Seriously.

I'm very curious as to what a 20 Footer would be in DDR. With the brand new rating scale introduced in DDR X we got an 18, DDR X2 brought us a 19, now give us a 20.

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Post #310 · Posted at 2012-07-15 06:24:06pm 2.1 years ago

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- GOLD RUSH is annoying in all 3 versions. The chart is fun, though.
- Winx Club BEMANI songs deserve to crossover to the main series, and get new AC team steps.
- If Konami doesn't make a CS game this year, they should return to US AC distribution next year with a bunch of licenses (between 20-30). I know how pulled people get to those songs, and moving them to the AC would work miracles in revenues.
- The X-specials really should go if the next mix isn't of the X series. I also want the Groove Radar songs to get cut, but that's more unlikely.
- Jump streams and 16th-16th-jump patterns work...at 130 BPM at max. Including them in stuff like SUMIDIGAWA and Valkyrie Dimension is overkill.
- Karaoke Revolution should be revived...as an addition to the DDR series. I mean, they actually tied the 2 together in Karaoke Revolution Party, and it would be cool to do it the other way around.

Post #311 · Posted at 2012-07-15 06:32:42pm 2.1 years ago

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I just hope the X-Special charts should now be placed on the original songs as their challenge charts on the future DDR games. seeing multiple album arts of the same songs (ie PARANOIA, PARANOIA X-SPECIAL, PARANOIA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~, PARANOIA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~ (X-SPECIAL), PARANOIA Rebirth, PARANOIA Rebirth X-SPECIAL) is very annoying as hell

Post #312 · Posted at 2012-07-15 06:54:18pm 2.1 years ago

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Post #313 · Posted at 2012-07-15 08:03:31pm 2.1 years ago

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They should seriously add more Dancemania songs in newer DDR releases.
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Post #314 · Posted at 2012-07-15 10:51:35pm 2.1 years ago

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Late opinions to some posts because this thread got burried while I wasn't looking

Quote: TheSirius17
My controversial opinion is...
For me, IIDX becomes gradually worse (starting from SIRIUS, I believe) in terms of songs. Old IIDX songs have a distinct, unique style of music that created a diversity between songs, all while until today, we still listen to the same monotonous sound.

This is interesting because I'm the opposite way. For me older IIDX OSTs sound flat and boring while newer songs are a lot more interesting and fit what I imagine IIDX to be more.

As a comparison I looked in my iTunes.
Number of songs from 1-10th Style I have in there: 40
Number of songs from Lincle: 53
Even RED-GOLD don't have a lot of songs, and it isn't until TROOPERS that I start getting massive 30+ songs from the OST that I listen to on a regular basis.

So yeah, newer BEMANI stuff is definitely more my thing

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wut. for doujin things.... doesn't exist the BMS? in the last year... in the BMS of Fighters where was a part of the songs based on madoka magica (the anime) (but REDALiCE is great for me. but... prim.... i hate it.)
Yeah, but IIDX isn't BMS. BMS is to IIDX as Stepmania is to DDR. If people disliked a certain song, you can't quite respond to them by saying "but somebody out there has made a simfile out of it".
I like SVB's music because it's supposed to be an homage to BEMANI. Almost every single song on there is a remix of another BEMANI song. Yeah, there's too much Vocaloid, but it's obvious what it's supposed to be. Bringing SVB-style stuff onto IIDX and attempting to have it taken seriously is the opposite of that.
Not saying I didn't like Express Emotion or Round and Round, it's just that I see where this is going and NO.

Also interesting, because I see where this is going and I like it. Honestly, before L.E.D. became SD for IIDX the series had gotten quite stale. There was always Taka songs, YOSHITAKA songs, kors k songs, Ryu songs, etc. All the songs were new yes, but if you wanted a new artist have fun looking at the License list buddy. What L.E.D. is doing is great imo because he's bringing in new talent and providing fresh breath in a series that had grown stale as far as artists were concerned. In addition the number of new KOs hasn't changed in any way. kors k still does 3 songs, Ryu still does 3 songs, wac is actually doing more songs, averaging around 2 songs a game now instead of the 1 he had during the YOSHITAKA era (exception TROOPERS), Tatsh actually did 5 songs in Lincle, L.E.D. does 6 songs. All L.E.D. is doing is culling out the license list, usually having only having 2-3 licenses now, and adding in more commission artists. While I understand not everyone may like it I personally am one of the people that does.

Actual new opinions:

Ax/felys needs to have a song in IIDX.
neu needs to be trasplanted to IIDX
I'm annoyed that FLOWER is being crossovered to everything because SEED would have been a much better choice personally.
Piano needs to stop being OMES in IIDX. Yeah, I get it. Pianos are dramatic. Now give me a new style for my last boss song already. We've had 5 games IN A ROW with piano style OMES, and the last 2 weren't that great. I mean, seriously, perditus over PARADISE LOST for OMES in RA? Who made THAT decision

tl;dr Newer IIDX are better, like the direction IIDX is going in, Ax/felys => IIDX, neu => IIDX, FLOWER why SEED so much better, Piano OMES = Stop it.
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Post #315 · Posted at 2012-07-16 12:01:54am 2.1 years ago

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jubeat/jukebeat SERIOUSLY needs an Android port.

Many of the crossovers I would of expected in DDR never appeared. Songs including D.M. Star, SEED, Broken, F, evans, Destiny Sword etc. should of ALL been on X3 vs. 2nd Mix.

DDR X2/X3 interface is far too clean and looks "Wii-ish". I'm not a fan of clean interfaces.

Singles charts are funner to play, but Doubles charts are FAR funner to write.

DDR doubles charts are lackluster and resemble too much like their singles counterparts. IMO, ITG-style doubles are FAR more creative (but don't always work).

Post #316 · Posted at 2012-07-16 12:04:43am 2.1 years ago

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Konami is afraid of the 7th console generation (PS3 and XBox 360). That's why they haven't made any DDR home games in Japan since X and any IIDX games since Empress; in order to handle X2 or Sirius, they'd need to upgrade their hardware.
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Post #317 · Posted at 2012-07-16 12:09:58am 2.1 years ago

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Konami is afraid of the 7th console generation (PS3 and XBox 360). That's why they haven't made any DDR home games in Japan since X and any IIDX games since Empress; in order to handle X2 or Sirius, they'd need to upgrade their hardware.

Remember the DDR Universe series? That was on Xbox 360. (Unless if you're regarding to Japan only)

And is it so much they're "afraid"? Or rather, too expensive to produce because they might lose some profits from selling games on a more expensive platform?

Post #318 · Posted at 2012-07-16 01:10:20am 2.1 years ago

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- Winx Club BEMANI songs deserve to crossover to the main series, and get new AC team steps.
If those songs are keeping their cuts from Winx Club, I disagree. Some of those cuts are just... Dead
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Post #319 · Posted at 2012-07-16 01:18:36am 2.1 years ago

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Konami is afraid of the 7th console generation (PS3 and XBox 360). That's why they haven't made any DDR home games in Japan since X and any IIDX games since Empress; in order to handle X2 or Sirius, they'd need to upgrade their hardware.

Remember the DDR Universe series? That was on Xbox 360. (Unless if you're regarding to Japan only)

And is it so much they're "afraid"? Or rather, too expensive to produce because they might lose some profits from selling games on a more expensive platform?

Yes, I am quite aware of the Universe games. But seeing as how I brought up IIDX too, I was mostly talking about Japan. And by "afraid", I guess I meant that as the same as what you said at the end. Plus, they'd have further reason to, since Rock Revolution and the 2010 DDRs flopped as far as I'm aware.
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Post #320 · Posted at 2012-07-16 04:59:12am 2.1 years ago

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Similar to what Darkstorm091 said about OMES songs, I find Sense 2007 and Beach Side Bunny to be the best OMES songs. For me personally, I'd rather the OMES song truly fit the theme of whatever game it is instead of it always being a piano-based song; hence why Sense 2007 was a perfect OMES for GOLD and Beach Side Bunny was a perfect OMES for Resort Anthem (although the album version from I AM NOT A DJ is a little better).
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