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Post #1 · Posted at 2011-10-01 09:43:06pm 12.4 years ago

Offline rayword45
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I've seen this on DDRFreak and ITGFreak as well, so let's give this a shot. Rank easy-hard songs by their level. Most people do 10's, but I haven't played enough to judge so. This is by passing, but do scoring if you want. Everything is in order.

OFFICIAL:

Low 10: D-Code, Queen Of Light, Tribal Style, Wanna Do, Vorsprung Durch -Techno-, Anubis, Temple Of Boom, Fleadh Uncut, Hispanic Panic, Spin Chicken, Cyrosleep
Mid 10: Remember December, Hand Of Time, Mellow (ITGPC), My Favorite Game, Hillbilly Hardcore, Bouff, Hybrid, Walking On Fire (stamina-killer), Kagami, Twilight, Do U Love Me, Summer In Belize, Disconnected Hyper (not nearly as hard as many put it out to be), Visible Noise, Oasis, Bend Your Mind, One False Move (borderline high)
High 10: Sunshine, Tension, Know Your Enemy, Sweet World, Soapy Bubble (I had more problems with this then Delirium/Most 11's)

Low 11s: Clockwork Genesis, Charlene, Utopia, Xuxa, Robotix, Vertex^2
Mid 11s: Destiny, Infection, Mythology, July (although I can't pass it for some reason)
High 11s: The Beginning, Hardcore Symphony, Monolith, Pandemonium

Low 12s: Delirium, Go 60 Go, Vertex, Tell, !
Mid 12s: Energizer, Euphoria (Suprisingly easy to pass, just a bitch to score on), Determinator
High 12s: HOTN, Bloodrush

Low 13: Summer -Speedy Mix-
Mid 13: Pandemonium
High 13: Vertex^2

Rebirth/ITG3:

Low 11 (Skipping a chunk of them): Always In My Heart, Feels Just Like That Night, Nightmoves, Les Vacances Du Compositeur, Supremacy, Disconnected -Sanxion7 Remix-, Space Space Shooter, Last Man Standing
Mid 11: Frozen Fire, Hands Up, Etude For A Dragon, Asian Crosscounter
High 11: Hyper Hyper (11 cut), That is Fair, Rock Steady, Sonic Vision, Space War III

Low 12: Hyper Hyper (12 cut), July 8-bit, Disconnected -Delight Mix-, Me And My Lover, Over The Rave
Mid 12: Dead Souls, Sail Away, Metallik Heart, Gargoyle, Dream To Nightmare
High 12: Pink Fuzzy Bunnies, Get Down, We Met Dat Night

Low 13: Indulgence (more like a 12)
Mid 13: Epileptic Crisis
High 13: Vertex^3, ReaF, Disconnected Hardkore

Post #2 · Posted at 2011-10-15 12:23:04pm 12.4 years ago

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I always loved doing thisHappy Of course, I can't pass more than 10's, so my ratings are based on keyboard experience and what I've heard/read from others.

OFFICIAL:

Low 11s: Charlene (should be 10), Xuxa (should be 10), Utopia, Robotix, VerTex^2 [hard], Clockwork Genesis (might be easier than VerTex^2 hard, not sure)
Mid 11s: Mythology, The Beginning, Infection, Destiny, July
High 11s: Hardcore Symphony, Monolith, Pandemonium [hard]

Low 12s: VerTex, !, Go 60 Go, Delirium
Mid 12s: Energizer, Tell, Hardcore of the North
High 12s: Euphoria, Determinator, Bloodrush

Low 13: Summer -Speedy Mix-
Mid 13: Pandemonium
High 13: VerTex^2

Rebirth/ITG3:

Low 11 (Skipping a chunk of them): Kahu (should be 10 because it's no tougher to pass than Hillbilly Hardcore), Always In My Heart (definitely a 10, nowhere close to being an 11), Hands Up (should be 10), Tears in May (should be 10), Les Vacances Du Compositeur (should be 10), Last Man Standing (should be 10), Feels Just Like That Night, The Man Crossing the Channel, Nightmoves, Supremacy, Space Space Shooter
Mid 11: Disconnected -Sanxion7 Remix- (looks easy, but others consider it mid 11), Frozen Fire, Strikebeam, Etude For A Dragon (also looks easy), Machines Will Fall ~Dreamerz~, Asian Crosscounter, Cherry Blossom -LMK Remix-
High 11: Hyper Hyper (11 cut), That is Fair, Sonic Vision, Space War III, Rock Steady

Low 12: Hyper Hyper (12 cut), Over The Rave, Dead Souls, Disconnected -Delight Mix-, July Ocho 8-bit Remix, Me And My Lover
Mid 12: Sail Away, Metallik Heart, Gargoyle -Original Mix-, Dream To Nightmare, We Met Dat Night
High 12: Pink Fuzzy Bunnies, Get Down

Low 13: Indulgence (more like a 12)
Mid 13: Epileptic Crisis
High 13: VerTex^3, Disconnected Hardkore, ReaF (now a 14)

I'm not so sure about the order of Rebirth/ITG3 on a lot of them -- I'm not even familiar with most of the In The Groove 3 songs enough to accurately rank.

I guess, get another opinion if you want something accurate.
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Post #3 · Posted at 2011-10-15 11:49:40pm 12.4 years ago

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Quote: Dreamboy
I always loved doing thisHappy Of course, I can't pass more than 10's, so my ratings are based on keyboard experience and what I've heard/read from others.

OFFICIAL:

Low 11s: Charlene (should be 10), Xuxa (should be 10), Utopia, Robotix, VerTex^2 [hard], Clockwork Genesis (might be easier than VerTex^2 hard, not sure)
Mid 11s: Mythology, The Beginning, Infection, Destiny, July
High 11s: Hardcore Symphony, Monolith, Pandemonium [hard]

Low 12s: VerTex, !, Go 60 Go, Delirium
Mid 12s: Energizer, Tell, Hardcore of the North
High 12s: Euphoria, Determinator, Bloodrush

Low 13: Summer -Speedy Mix-
Mid 13: Pandemonium
High 13: VerTex^2

Rebirth/ITG3:

Low 11 (Skipping a chunk of them): Always In My Heart (definitely a 10, nowhere close to being an 11), Hands Up (should be a 10), Les Vacances Du Compositeur (should be a 10), Last Man Standing (should be a 10), Feels Just Like That Night, Nightmoves, Supremacy, Space Space Shooter
Mid 11: Disconnected -Sanxion7 Remix- (looks easy, but others consider it mid 11), Frozen Fire, Etude For A Dragon (also looks easy), Asian Crosscounter
High 11: Hyper Hyper (11 cut), That is Fair, Sonic Vision, Space War III, Rock Steady

Low 12: Hyper Hyper (12 cut), Over The Rave, Dead Souls, Disconnected -Delight Mix-, July 8-bit, Me And My Lover
Mid 12: Sail Away, Metallik Heart, Gargoyle, Dream To Nightmare, We Met Dat Night
High 12: Pink Fuzzy Bunnies, Get Down

Low 13: Indulgence (more like a 12)
Mid 13: Epileptic Crisis
High 13: VerTex^3, Disconnected Hardkore, ReaF (now a 14)

I'm not so sure about the order of Rebirth/ITG3 on a lot of them -- I'm not even familiar with most of the In The Groove 3 songs enough to accurately rank.

I guess, get another opinion if you want something accurate.

Since when is ReaF a 14?

I laughed at Always In My Heart's rating. Dead Souls scares me simply because it's Tekno Dred.

Kahu has those 2 drills. Longer then any other in the game. I can't believe I forgot That Is Fair. It's of comparable difficulty to Vertex.

I found DIsconnected Hardkore harder then ReaF simply because the ending is faster (245)

Post #4 · Posted at 2011-10-16 05:14:26am 12.4 years ago

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I'm not sure when it was changed, but the Fort Rapids V pack rates ReaF 14 (I think I actually saw it rated 14 at Fort Rapids IV). A friend told me it was changed, and he also said it should have been rated 14 to begin with (I wouldn't know since I can't even pass it on keyboard consistently).

Every song I mentioned "should be 10" I have passed despite never having broken the 11 barrier (at least, not to my knowledge). According to the guys on aaronin.jp, Dead Souls may be one of the easiest 12's in Rebirth -- I edited my post to include all the Rebirth songs, and they are based on King of Light's rankings on rhythmatic.net and aaronin.jp

I think Kahu might be one of those songs that looks tougher than it really is. I don't know if it is the same chart, but Disconnected Hardkore is a 14 in Tachyon Alpha.
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Post #5 · Posted at 2011-10-16 06:07:03am 12.4 years ago

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Where do you guys get the ITG 3 Pack?

Post #6 · Posted at 2011-10-23 12:29:10am 12.4 years ago

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Quote: aeubanks
Where do you guys get the ITG 3 Pack?

Irrelevant post, but there are many places to retrieve them.

I don't know if it's the same as OpenGroove, but both with and without videos: izzy.foo.se

It's missing the song Wild Thing though.

Attempting 10's (will rearrange)

Officials

Low 10: D-Code, Queen Of Light, Tribal Style, Wanna Do, Vorsprung Durch -Techno-, Anubis, Temple Of Boom, Fleadh Uncut, Hispanic Panic, Spin Chicken, Cyrosleep
Mid 10: Remember December, Hand Of Time, Mellow (ITGPC), My Favorite Game, Hillbilly Hardcore, Bouff, Hybrid, Walking On Fire (stamina-killer), Kagami, Twilight, Do U Love Me, Summer In Belize, Disconnected Hyper (not nearly as hard as many put it out to be), Visible Noise, Oasis, Bend Your Mind, One False Move (borderline high)
High 10: Sunshine, Tension, Know Your Enemy, Sweet World, Soapy Bubble (I had more problems with this then Delirium/Most 11's)

Post #7 · Posted at 2011-10-23 12:40:25am 12.4 years ago

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Post #8 · Posted at 2011-10-25 08:58:47am 12.4 years ago

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Ooh goody, now we're moving on to 10's, my (former) limit.

Officials

Low 10: D-Code, Liquid Moon (not rated 10 anymore, but it is tougher than D-Code, so I'm not sure it deserved the rating change unless D-Code should be bumped down), Cryosleep, Agent Blatant, Holy Guacamole, VerTex hard, Queen Of Light (for some reason, this didn't feel easy even though I was capable of passing medium 10's at the time; I guess it's awkward to play with the bar or something?), Hispanic Panic, Vorsprung Durch -Techno-, Twilight, Tribal Style (possibly a bit draining on an upgrade cab for someone brand new to 10's and/or wastes a lot of energy), Fleadh Uncut, Spin Chicken, Do U Love Me, My Favorite Game, Hand Of Time, Remember December, Kagami, Bend Your Mind, Temple Of Boom, Wanna Do ~Hardhouse Mix~

Mid 10: Visible Noise, One False Move (borderline low maybe), Out of the Dark, Hybrid, Walking On Fire (it's not that draining unless you're new to 10's, you don't use the bar, or otherwise waste a lot of energy), Oasis (just tricky), Anubis, Summer In Belize, Hillbilly Hardcore, Energizer hard, Sweet World (I originally had less trouble passing this than I did Hillbilly Hardcore, but one day this year I failed Sweet World and passed Hillbilly Hardcore on the same day:/), Sunshine, Tension (not bad apart from the jumps), Bouff

High 10: Disconnected -Hyper- (I've heard it's considered a tough 10, and it's the only ITG1 10 I have never passed although I tried it only once), Know Your Enemy, Soapy Bubble (tricky, so much so it is actually exempt from my dream to pass everything under 11)

Rebirth (the following is mostly according to King of Light's ratings on rhythmatic.net and aaronin.jp with some adjustments from personal experience)

Low 10: Reloading 150 (should this even be rated 10? It's probably easier than Tech-lo and Wish -Remix-), One Thousand Cranes (not sure if this deserves a 10 rating either), This Must Be a Dream (might be easier than One Thousand Cranes, I'm not sure), Mongolian Grill, You Wanna Me, Stars Above, Machine Rhythm (not rated 10, but it is tougher than Mongolian Grill), Calendar Girl, Legacy, Popcorn, Galaxy9, Summer, EternuS

Mid 10: Charly ~Halloween Dub~, Ode to Dragon, Synth Synth Synth, Enchanted Journey (just tricky, maybe flip with Synth Synth Synth), Vifta Med Handerna, Cloud Nine and a Half, Duality, Palindrome, 30 Minutes Harder

High 10: Megascorcher, Night Time Story, King's Theme -Pixel Remix-, Aurora, Stop the Music

In The Groove 3 (I'm not very familiar with these, so these are more prone to inaccuracies than the previous)

Low 10: Riders Unite (should be rated 9), World of Dreams, The Promised Land, Groovin Motion (just tricky hands), King Kong, Fantasia

Mid 10 (not sure about most of these): Sweet Things, All That Matters, Hanging On, Virtual Emotion, Land of the Rising Sun (Diskowarp Mix), Ra, Temple of Love, Land of Imagination, Bagpipe, Cave Drips, Less Than Three

High 10: Hasse Mich (could be mid 10?)

Not familiar enough to rate: Charlene -Rock Mix-, Dawn -Perpetual Mix-, Disconnected Hardkore hard, Exotica, Get Up, Hardkore Atomic, Heel and Toe, Moonstone, Radius, Re-Rave, Smells Like a Chocolate, Snow Stream, Southcoast Calling, Starfield, Sun Son Sunday -Orange Mix-, The Universe Beside You, VerTex^3 medium, Who Y2Z

It would be cool to know an accurate list for In The Groove 3 since I have seen lists for officials and Rebirth. I would also love to see a list for Rebirth 2 somedayHappy
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Post #9 · Posted at 2011-10-26 01:27:27am 12.4 years ago

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Low 18: We Write At Two Five Five, Rocket Rider, Wind Valley Boss, Egao No Mira E

Mid 18: Oprah Shmup CV, V.L.S.I. CV, Die In Your Arms Tonight

High 18: Miasma Full, Extratone Pirates, Whazamup CV, Laser Cannon Deth Sentence


Low 19: Extratone in a Perfect World, Rocket Rider CV

Mid 19: Laser Cannon Deth Sentence CV

Post #10 · Posted at 2011-10-26 01:55:10am 12.4 years ago

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Wait, Laser Cannon Deth Sentence? I assume that chart has a nonstop 24th stream Big Grin
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Post #11 · Posted at 2011-10-26 02:01:47am 12.4 years ago

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Low 10: Dawn (Perpetual Mix) (nothing more than hands that's tricky), Agent Blatant (Nothing except for some 16th streams at the beginning, and this was the first 10 on ITG I passed)
Mid 10: Temple of Boom, Cloud Nine and a Half, Megascorcher
High 10: Vifta Med Händerna (SHOULD NOT. NOT. NOT. BE A 10-FOOTER! Feels more like an 11 to me)

Low 11: Charlene
Mid 11: Monolith, Frozen Fire
High 11: Rock Steady (Borderline 12, I can almost say)

Low 12: !, Delirium
Mid 12: Hardcore of the North, Bloodrush, Energizer
High 12: Get Down (One hell of a drainer!), Dream to Nightmare (First time, it should be a 13. Only could this be a 12 if you know it really, and I mean, REALLY well)

Low 13: Indulgence (If you've played Pandemonium, you know what to expect)
Mid 13: Pandemonium, VerTex^2, Hasse Mich (D. Runberg edit)
High 13: ReaF, VerTex^3, Disconnected Hardkore
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Post #12 · Posted at 2011-10-26 03:43:00am 12.4 years ago

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Wait, Laser Cannon Deth Sentence? I assume that chart has a nonstop 24th stream Big Grin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdTfy8xS31s
The 18 has 2 16 measure 24th runs.

The 19 version is uncut, having an additional 8 measure run and a 32 measure run.

Post #13 · Posted at 2011-10-26 05:05:30am 12.4 years ago

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"The eurobeat journeyman!"
And I thought the Team Dragonforce stuff was hard.... whoa. I love that song, and I was thinking about charting it myself, but I don't think I can do much better than that.
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Post #14 · Posted at 2011-10-27 08:29:34am 12.4 years ago

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Quote: Spirit of Nightmare
High 10: Vifta Med Händerna (SHOULD NOT. NOT. NOT. BE A 10-FOOTER! Feels more like an 11 to me)

No offense, but I find it strange you find Vifta Med Handerna that tough -- it really isn't that bad, no more than medium 10 and not a tough medium 10 at that. I guess some songs are tougher for some people than they are for others.

Since the Tachyon packs and others are tracked on Groovestats, I like the idea of including songs from those hereHappy

Edit: What packs contain Wind Valley Boss, Egao No Mira E, Miasma Full, Laser Cannon Deth Sentence, and Extratone in a Perfect World?

Are Oprah Shmup CV, V.L.S.I. CV, Whazamup CV, and Rocket Rider CV the same songs from Tachyon Beta and Gamma with stream, quick, echo, skippy, wide, and stomp modifiers (dubbed "legit edit"?)? If so, then I assume the Laser Cannon Deth Sentence CV is the same song mentioned here with said (typed) modifiers.

Quote: Blinded_No_More
Wait, Laser Cannon Deth Sentence? I assume that chart has a nonstop 24th stream Big Grin

You mean like Determinator and Strike of the Ninja?
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Post #15 · Posted at 2011-10-28 02:37:51am 12.4 years ago

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D-Code was re-rated 9 on ITGPC

SCORING: Not doing full lists

Easy 10: Fleadh Uncut, Temple Of Boom, Walking On Fire (all are extremely simple in terms of patterns)
Hard 10: Remember December (This has a really... Strange chart), Oasis, Sweet World (Obvious)

Easy 11: Charlene, Xuxa, Hardcore Symphony (Again, all are really simplistic)
Hard 11: The Beginning (or Robotix if you don't know the fast part), Utopia, Clockwork Genesis

Easy 12: Delirium (lol), Vertex (learn speed-up), !
Hard 12: HOTN, Euphoria (drills), Go 60 Go (Teal notes)

13's: Same order

Rebirth/ITG3:

Easy 10: Calender Girl, Riders, Unite!, Dawn (Perpetual Mix)
Hard 10: Hasse Mich, Megascorcher, Aurora

Easy 11: Always In My Heart, Space Space Shooter, Last Man Standing
Hard 11: Machines Will Fall, Cherry Blossom Whirlwind -LMK Remix-, ROCK STEADY

Easy 12: Hyper Hyper, July 8-Bit, Sail Away
Hard 12: Dream To Nightmare, We Met Dat Night, Get Down

13's: Same order

Post #16 · Posted at 2011-10-29 08:27:06am 12.4 years ago

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Quote: Dreamboy
What packs contain Wind Valley Boss, Egao No Mira E, Miasma Full, Laser Cannon Deth Sentence, and Extratone in a Perfect World?
Wind Valley Boss, Egao No Mira E, Laser Cannon Deth Sentence, and Extratone in a Perfect World are from Tachyon Delta which is not out yet. Miasma Full is from the CV pack, also not out yet. I've put up videos of all the charts I listed.

Quote: Dreamboy
CV
CV is short for Causality Violation which is a currently unreleased pack I'm working on but there are videos out of a lot of the charts. The term Causality Violation is a concept in physics which basically says if information travels faster than light, something can happen before the event that caused it, violating 'causality'. The theme of the pack is really really really hard. Many of the CV charts are extended versions, some are just harder steps.

Some examples of CV charts:
Oprah Shmup CV is the same as Oprah Shmup but with an extra 30 measure run at the end where the song was cut for the Tachyon Gamma version.
V.L.S.I. CV is an different longer cut of the full 8 minutes song where the 24th run in the middle is 3x as long as the run in V.L.S.I. in Tachyon Gamma.
Whazamup CV is the same cut as normal Whazamup but with a much harder chart.

Post #17 · Posted at 2011-10-29 02:34:51pm 12.4 years ago

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Heh, I read something about Walking on Fire CV on aaronin.jp and there was a link to a video of I believe Zetorux playing Walking on Fire with stream, quick, skippy, echo, and wide, called a "legit edit". I figured CV stood for "crazy version" like in Pump or something. I feel silly nowLaughing Out Loud

Since we're discussing scoring now, Enchanted Journey is tricky and Liquid Moon is tough to score (and to pass for that matter) for anyone who's bad at jumps, like me. One False Move might be another song tricky for scoring.

I'll add more later.
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Post #18 · Posted at 2011-10-30 04:16:20am 12.4 years ago

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From what I've played of Rebirth 2:

Low 9: 8-Bit Trip [Medium], Heads Or Tails
Medium 9: Medicine

Low 10: Anubis (Necro-Industrial), Queen's Tragedy [Hard], The Man With The Tuxedo
Medium 10: 120 Red, Maslo, Jets 'N' Guns, Tike Tike Kardi, Abbadon [Hard]
High 10: La Samba de la Vida, 8-Bit Trip [Hard]

Medium 11: Spiral 2005
High 11: Chronon, Sweat Shop

Medium 12: Stupid Smile, Queen's Tragedy [Expert]
High 12: I Can Rock, A Yodeler In Texas

Medium 13: Force Feedback

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