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Post #21 · Posted at 2011-09-15 05:13:21am 12.5 years ago

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To be fair, Air Special is off anyway.
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Post #22 · Posted at 2011-09-15 05:29:15am 12.5 years ago

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No it's not.

Post #23 · Posted at 2011-09-15 05:58:25am 12.5 years ago

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Take it they fixed it on X2 final.
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Post #24 · Posted at 2011-09-15 07:30:39am 12.5 years ago

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To be fair, Air Special is off anyway.
I played it twice on a X (eu). I had this feeling (even if i know that someone pfc'd it on the same cab).

But anyway, when i saw the video i could tell (again) that the X2 issue is pretty bad :/
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Post #25 · Posted at 2011-09-15 04:05:03pm 12.5 years ago

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Mercury said its offsync but he got 1 great on it...

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Post #26 · Posted at 2011-09-17 02:41:21pm 12.5 years ago

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Air Special
Oh no not this shit again D:

This is THE most played song on Bordeaux's SuperNOVA 2... Teenage emos love this song. The owner of the arcade can't hear it anymore Laughing Out Loud

Seems pretty sync on this machine, as I have seen several AAs and a few AAAs.

Post #27 · Posted at 2011-09-17 06:26:59pm 12.5 years ago

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s3phy, it's even worst with the new audio. I can't stand when someone is playing it on a DDRX.
The songs makes me want to puke and when i see the chart :/

I played it once twice in my life and that was SO bad that i couldn't focus at 100% and score well.
But someday, i'll have to play it. Except if i play on a SN2/X (jap) cab.

Back on topic : Brazen, you told me few months ago that Konami was aware of this problem. Are they still working on it or they just let us with this buggy cab ?
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Post #28 · Posted at 2011-10-01 02:02:01am 12.4 years ago

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I heard that playing in Classic Special Noteskin resolve the problem. I tested today and ... it was better. I made a better score (but not good because we have shit pad and i didn't have my shoes...)
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Post #29 · Posted at 2011-10-01 03:15:11am 12.4 years ago

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Resolves it completely or just slightly? ... Either way, this shouldn't happen.

Post #30 · Posted at 2011-10-01 03:35:12am 12.4 years ago

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More completely than slightly
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Post #31 · Posted at 2011-10-01 03:36:27am 12.4 years ago

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I'll test it on the London machine tomorrow; pretty weird... Neutral

Post #32 · Posted at 2011-10-03 03:32:34am 12.4 years ago

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Yeah it's weird. I didn"t believe it when my friend said that to me. But when you will test, you will see the difference (I hope).

Soso, any news ?
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Post #33 · Posted at 2011-10-03 06:24:32am 12.4 years ago

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Yeah it didn't work, it drifts just like before...

PERSONAL proof of drifting bug:

Playing to music:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/X2_IMAG0133.jpg

Playing to music:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/X2_IMAG0135.jpg

Playing to graphics:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/X2_IMAG0140.jpg

Playing to graphics:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/X2_IMAG0141.jpg

Playing to music:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/X2_IMAG0144.jpg

Playing to music:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/X2_IMAG0146.jpg

Playing to music, then graphics for stage 2 and 3:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/X2_IMAG0148.jpg

As you can tell, it's very very bad if you play to the music.

Post #34 · Posted at 2011-10-03 07:53:05am 12.4 years ago

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i want to see a score with someone playing stealth lol

Post #35 · Posted at 2011-10-03 08:07:35am 12.4 years ago

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look on the bright side... the 400bpm boss songs with crazy crossovers and twists will be easier because the BPM will be more like 395 instead of 400

*gets shot*

but uh seriously... I wonder how X1 Betson pads would do in Valkyrie Dimension?
This is how X2 Betson pads held up for PHN!X (left arrow was lol; up and right occasionally phantom fired IIRC)

edit: that video doesn't really do the pads "justice" though. I put a Mei S-Heavy score on the machine (I'm out of shape, haven't played dancing games for more than maybe an hour combined over the past 3 weeks before yesterday) and PHN!X wasn't able to beat it because the pads got worse.

Post #36 · Posted at 2011-10-03 09:15:15am 12.4 years ago

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Quote: yindesu
look on the bright side... the 400bpm boss songs with crazy crossovers and twists will be easier because the BPM will be more like 395 instead of 400

*gets shot*

but uh seriously... I wonder how X1 Betson pads would do in Valkyrie Dimension?
This is how X2 Betson pads held up for PHN!X (left arrow was lol; up and right occasionally phantom fired IIRC)

edit: that video doesn't really do the pads "justice" though. I put a Mei S-Heavy score on the machine (I'm out of shape, haven't played dancing games for more than maybe an hour combined over the past 3 weeks before yesterday) and PHN!X wasn't able to beat it because the pads got worse.
Our pads here have held up well for what they are for two months. After today though, that is going to change. I got 898xxx on VD heavy and 732xxx on VD oni. Pulled 9 and a miss on both Mei heavy and Vanessa heavy and got 19FC on Possession heavy. After today, they felt really recessed and are harder to combo on.

Post #37 · Posted at 2011-10-03 10:00:09am 12.4 years ago

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Mm... Looks to me like Konami released the update/game forgetting that the frame rate in the UK is about 17% less than the US or Japan. I've seen the opposite happen when playing Dancing Stage on a US PS2. The arrows were about 17% faster. Just a guess there.
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Post #38 · Posted at 2011-10-03 10:08:14am 12.4 years ago

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That makes sense, although I have yet to hear about the US and UK cabinets having different displays, which would use different framerates. Does anyone know if they use the same hardware?

Post #39 · Posted at 2011-10-03 10:28:13am 12.4 years ago

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That makes sense, although I have yet to hear about the US and UK cabinets having different displays, which would use different framerates. Does anyone know if they use the same hardware?

They would have to use different displays. I don't know how to fully explain it, but I'm sure someone can better explain. Basically the frame rate in the US/JP would be 60 hertz and the frame rate would be 50 hertz in the UK.
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Post #40 · Posted at 2011-10-03 10:38:15am 12.4 years ago

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As you can tell, it's very very bad if you play to the music.
Fortunatly, that's not the purpose in a rythm'n game...

D:

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