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Post #521 · Posted at 2012-05-06 08:54:24pm 1.9 years ago

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Quote: Silverhawke
Do you know why "The Reflex" has that value? It's like it was from earlier but only made it now. Others have consecutive numbers...

Oh sorry I misunderstood.

The Song ID is Zenius' song ID, not related to Konami's IDs.

THE REFLEX was the 320th song to be added to the site, when the site primarily was for DDR, that's why the number is so low. Happy

Post #522 · Posted at 2012-05-06 08:55:47pm 1.9 years ago

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Oh okay, that explains it.
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Post #523 · Posted at 2012-05-07 02:51:14pm 1.9 years ago

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New jukebeat pack today:

◆KONAMI music pack 14◆

"Chance and Dice" by Japanese boy ( 5 / 6 / 8 )
"SigSig" by kors K ( 6 / 8 / 9 )
"Queen's Paradise" by Nanako ( 4 / 7 / 8 )
"Green Green Dance" by Mutsuhiko Izumi ( 4 / 8 / 9 )
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Post #524 · Posted at 2012-05-07 02:54:24pm 1.9 years ago

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SigSig? Chance and Dice? Queen's Paradise?

>8|

*in need of an iPad right now*

Post #525 · Posted at 2012-05-07 03:32:07pm 1.9 years ago

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Only 8 jubeat originals left from jubeat to jubeat knit.

Post #526 · Posted at 2012-05-07 04:33:31pm 1.9 years ago

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2351933/JapaneseBoy.png

This is quite dumb hahahahahaha.

Considering in DDR X it is:
http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/images/songs/766.png

Post #527 · Posted at 2012-05-07 04:55:00pm 1.9 years ago

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xD Not surprising at all. We had seen other dumb changes on DDR, for song titles before.

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp160/RaitoIIDX/sugae.png

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp160/RaitoIIDX/sugei.png
http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/ddrsig/535_2.png

Post #528 · Posted at 2012-05-07 05:05:34pm 1.9 years ago

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how about KID R into Shounen Ripples or Kid Ripples? :v

Anyway, 8 more songs to go. I assume jubeat plus will release copious pack 07 this week or next week.

jubeat
bass 2 bass
天国と地獄
あいのうた

jubeat ripples
ウィリアム・テル序曲
Good-bye Chalon
INVISIBLE WORLD

jubeat knit
白鳥の湖
Theory of Eternity

Post #529 · Posted at 2012-05-08 04:06:36am 1.9 years ago

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So how does this pack fit in with the other IDs? Was Toto just a complete outlier?

Post #530 · Posted at 2012-05-08 05:01:55am 1.9 years ago

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*in need of an iPad right now*

I bought an iPad 3rd gen just for jubeat plus and Reflec Beat. Spent hundreds of bucks to get almost all current songs available on the stores. I even have jukebeat just for the exclusives. Good times, especially since you know, there haven't been much CS games coming out anymore.
I don't play simulators. Only the real official games.

Post #531 · Posted at 2012-05-08 10:19:38am 1.9 years ago

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Quote: Max

*in need of an iPad right now*

I bought an iPad 3rd gen just for jubeat plus and Reflec Beat. Spent hundreds of bucks to get almost all current songs available on the stores. I even have jukebeat just for the exclusives. Good times, especially since you know, there haven't been much CS games coming out anymore.
STOP IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT Oops

Post #532 · Posted at 2012-05-08 02:51:49pm 1.9 years ago

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Quote: StarCreator
So how does this pack fit in with the other IDs? Was Toto just a complete outlier?

KONAMI packs that include actual songs from the arcade don't have their own pack ID. Here's a full list:

// jubeat Originals
"100000101" // bass 2 bass
"100000102" // 天国と地獄
"100000103" // GIGA BREAK
"100000104" // Icicles
"100000105" // Jumping Boogie
"100000106" // Snow Goose
"100000107" // Polaris
"100000108" // Happy Happy
"100000109" // I love マミー
"100000110" // Chance and Dice
"100000111" // IN THE NAME OF LOVE
"100000112" // Special One
"100000113" // Crosswind
"100000114" // あいのうた
"100000115" // Evans
"100000116" // In Scottish Highlands
"100000117" // SigSig
"100000118" // 凛として咲く花の如く
"100000119" // TRUE♥LOVE
"100000120" // Slang

// jubeat ripples Originals
"100000201" // ウィリアム・テル序曲
"100000202" // 隅田川夏恋歌
"100000203" // AREA 51
"100000204" // eyes
"100000205" // STARLIT DUST/スティルに捧ぐ
"100000206" // Queen's Paradise
"100000207" // coming true
"100000208" // Shining Star
"100000209" // Good-bye Chalon
"100000210" // SWEET ANGEL
"100000211" // INVISIBLE WORLD
"100000212" // Russian Snowy Dance
"100000213" // 恋のメリーゴーランド
"100000214" // ECO FIGHTER
"100000215" // Macuilxochitl
"100000216" // AIR RAID FROM THA UNDAGROUND
"100000217" // スペースカーニバル
"100000218" // Lead Me
"100000219" // 少年リップルズ
"100000220" // コイノチカラ
"100000221" // ALBIDA

// jubeat knit Originals
"100000301" // 白鳥の湖
"100000302" // Green Green Dance
"100000303" // Ready Go!!
"100000304" // Shining Wizard
"100000305" // ALL MY HEART -この恋に、わたしの全てを賭ける-
"100000306" // Love ♡ km
"100000307" // fellow
"100000308" // KUNG-FU MAMA
"100000309" // さよならトリップ
"100000310" // Far east nightbird
"100000311" // Prophet Vibe
"100000312" // STREET DANCER
"100000313" // I'm so Happy
"100000314" // Shine On Me
"100000315" // Sweet Rain
"100000316" // FLOWER
"100000317" // Theory of Eternity
"100000318" // Jailbreak
"100000319" // キルト
"100000320" // STELLAR WIND
"100000321" // うらもからだも落花微塵
"100000322" // concon
"100000323" // 愛と勇気の三度笠ポン太

// jubeat copious Originals
"100000401" // THIS NIGHT (jubeat EDITION)
"100000402" // 陽炎
"100000403" // WONDER WALKER
"100000405" // トルコ行進曲
"100000406" // Starlight Parade
"100000407" // yellow head joe
"100000409" // アルストロメリア
"100000410" // FRIENDSHIP
"100000411" // 瞬
"100000412" // 流砂の嵐
"100000413" // [E]
"100000414" // polygon
"100000415" // 量子の海のリントヴルム
"100000416" // electro peaceful
"100000418" // The Wind of Gold

// REFLEC BEAT pack
"100020001" // カラフルミニッツ
"100020002" // Silence
"100020003" // 優勢オーバードーズ
"100020004" // robin

// 幻想水滸伝 pack
"100030001" // 幻想の世界へ
"100030002" // 回想
"100030003" // Currents
"100030004" // 水上の提督

// クイズマジックアカデミー pack
"100030005" // サツキ-jubeatREMIX-
"100030006" // 予選後半戦1~クイズマジックアカデミー7より~
"100030007" // 決勝戦~クイズマジックアカデミー8より~
"100030008" // オープニングテーマ~クイズマジックアカデミー賢者の扉より~

// スティールクロニクル pack
"100030009" // Resonance of Steel -jubeatREMIX-
"100030010" // Rainstorm of Bullets
"100030011" // Agitated by Emotion
"100030012" // Shrill Voice

// jubeat Licenses
"220000101" // 一色
"220000102" // 粉雪
"220000103" // Love so sweet
"220000104" // 全力少年
"220000105" // 抱いてセニョリータ
"220000106" // キューティーハニー
"220000107" // ふがいないや
"220000108" // こんなに近くで...
"220000109" // POP STAR
"220000110" // 天体観測
"220000111" // endscape
"220000112" // 負けないで
"220000113" // A Perfect Sky
"220000114" // SPEED KING
"220000115" // Real voice
"220000116" // キスしてほしい
"220000117" // 光のロック
"220000118" // BELIEVE IN LOVE
"220000119" // BLUE BIRD
"220000120" // I my me mine
"220000121" // 太陽の地図
"220000122" // PEACH
"220000123" // YELL ~エール~
"220000124" // I'M IN THE MOOD FOR DANCING

// jubeat ripples Licenses
"220000201" // 情熱大陸
"220000202" // Garden of Love
"220000203" // 素直になれたら
"220000204" // キミ、メグル、ボク
"220000205" // HOT LIMIT
"220000206" // PROMiSE
"220000207" // My SunShine
"220000208" // 夏祭り
"220000209" // 空色デイズ
"220000210" // Lovin' Life
"220000211" // 愛をとりもどせ!!

// jubeat knit Licenses
"220000301" // Sandstorm
"220000302" // Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
"220000303" // じょいふる

// jubeat copious Licenses
"220000401" // SUPER∞STREAM
"220000402" // Baroque Hoedown
"220000403" // CARTOON HEROES
"220000404" // コネクト
"220000405" // Diver
"220000406" // シャカビーチ~Laka Laka la~
"220000407" // Let's ダバダバ
"220000408" // フレンズ
"220000409" // ダンデライオン
"220000410" // タッチ

// NINJAMAN-JAPAN pack
"311010001" // ニンジャマンジャパンのテーマ
"311010002" // -SHINOBI-
"311010003" // 隠密Dancers
"311010004" // Never Give Up!

// 新井大樹 pack
"311020009" // 新たな幕開け
"311020010" // 愛しき為の闘い
"311020011" // 広い大自然の中で
"311020012" // 奇跡の木漏れ日

// Plazma pack
"311030101" // AUTOMAGIC
"311030102" // SWEET CUBE
"311030103" // CIGARETTE
"311030104" // Aloe Dreams

// NANACO pack
"311070001" // REMEMBER (DIL mix)
"311070002" // IMTA (DIL mix)
"311070003" // DANCE IS LOVE (DIL mix)
"311070004" // HIGHER LOVE (DIL mix)

// SuG pack
"321040001" // gr8 story
"321040002" // 小悪魔Sparkling
"321040003" // R.P.G.~Rockin' Playing Game
"321040004" // Crazy Bunny Coaster

// BLOOD STAIN CHILD pack
"321040701" // ELECTRICITY
"321040702" // STARGAZER
"321040703" // SIRIUS VI
"321040704" // Unlimited Alchemist

// Any pack
"321041101" // 優しい人
"321041102" // 落雷
"321041103" // アンチエイド
"321041104" // Waffle

// ET-KING pack
"321050001" // 纏
"321050002" // 愛しいひとへ
"321050003" // 一番音頭
"321050004" // PRIDE ~君がくれたもの~

// Biju☆Love☆ pack
"311060001" // Bijuのテーマ
"311060002" // Sweet Little Biju
"311060003" // オムライス
"311060004" // HYPER COSMO

// ハイテンションジブリ pack
"321020001" // となりのトトロ feat.sayurina
"321020002" // もののけ姫
"321020003" // 君をのせて feat.sayurina
"321020004" // 風の通り道 feat.佐野隆

// ハイテンションジブリ pack 2
"321020005" // 海の見える街
"321020006" // ねこバス
"321020007" // アシタカセッ記
"321020008" // 風の谷のナウシカ feat.チロ

// Daisy×Daisy pack
"321040101" // HOLY SHINE
"321040102" // 防衛本脳
"321040103" // BELIEVE
"321040104" // Evidence

// Jazztronik pack
"321040201" // Flash Light feat. JAY'ED
"321040202" // Real Clothes<Album Mix>
"321040203" // Sweet Rain (Jazztronik pack)
"321040204" // BRA. Step

// 南波志帆 pack
"321040301" // こどなの階段
"321040302" // シャイニングスター
"321040303" // それでも言えないYOU&I
"321040304" // セプテンバー

// 渡り廊下走り隊 pack
"321040401" // 初恋ダッシュ
"321040402" // 青春のフラッグ
"321040403" // バレンタイン・キッス
"321040404" // へたっぴウィンク

// LM.C pack
"321040501" // ☆Rock the LM.C☆
"321040502" // 88
"321040503" // 星の在処。-ホシノアリカ-
"321040504" // The LOVE SONG

// 夢喰いメリー pack
"321040601" // Daydream Syndrome
"321040602" // ユメとキボーとアシタのアタシ
"321040603" // 月の見えない夜に
"321040604" // 夢の帰り道

// キルミーベイベー pack
"321040801" // キルミーのベイベー!
"321040802" // ふたりのきもちのほんとのひみつ
"321040803" // HOW TO ENJOY
"321040804" // Wanted ! OBAKA dead or alive

// およげ!たいやきくん pack
"321041201" // およげ!たいやきくん
"321041202" // およげ!たいやきくん ヤキヤキ音頭
"321041203" // およげ!たいやきくん
"321041204" // いっぽんでもニンジン

// mihimaru GT pack
"321050101" // 気分上々↑↑
"321050102" // パンキッシュ☆
"321050103" // エボ★レボリューション
"321050104" // マスターピース

// ヒルクライム pack
"321050201" // 春夏秋冬
"321050202" // トラヴェルマシン
"321050203" // 臆病な狼
"321050204" // パーソナルCOLOR

// LAST ALLIANCE pack
"321070101" // 片膝の汚れ
"321070102" // WING
"321070103" // HEKIREKI
"321070104" // エンプティハート

// OGRE YOU ASSHOLE pack
"321070201" // ライフワーク
"321070202" // バランス
"321070203" // ヘッドライト
"321070204" // ピンホール

// GALNERYUS pack
"321070301" // TEAR OFF YOUR CHAIN
"321070302" // FUTURE NEVER DIES
"321070303" // BASH OUT!
"321070304" // THE TIME HAS COME

// ゴールデンボンバー pack
"321080101" // ultra PHANTOM
"321080102" // †ザ・V系っぽい曲†
"321080103" // 女々しくて
"321080104" // 眠たくて

// Che‘Nelle pack
"321090001" // ベイビー・アイラブユー
"321090002" // For You
"321090003" // SAKURA
"321090004" // Everything

// Sweet Licious pack
"321100001" // Winter Kiss ~冬がくれたラブストーリー~
"321100002" // Destiny(DJ TORA Club Remix)
"321100003" // The Other Side of Love
"321100004" // My Heart ~キミに届けたい~ feat.JUN from CLIFF EDGE

// eufonius pack
"321110001" // リフレクティア
"321110002" // Idea
"321110003" // phosphorus
"321110004" // アネモイ

// ALI PROJECT pack
"321110101" // 跪いて足をお嘗め
"321110102" // 堕天國宣戦
"321110103" // 禁じられた遊び
"321110104" // 聖少女領域

// Rainbow☆Rainbow pack
"321120001" // Water Horizon
"321120002" // 夢現
"321120003" // My Babe Bee
"321120004" // Ultramarine

// AGEHA pack
"321120005" // COME BACK TO MY HEART (Ryu☆Remix)
"321120006" // Rise From The Ashes
"321120007" // Lapis Lazuli
"321120008" // jumpin' pumpin'

// → Pia-no-jaC ← pack
"321130101" // 組曲『 』
"321130102" // うさぎDASH
"321130103" // 台風
"321130104" // ダイナマイト

// 石川智晶 singles pack
"321140001" // アンインストール
"321140002" // Little Bird
"321140003" // 不完全燃焼
"321140004" // The Giving Tree

// ラストエグザイル 主題歌 pack
"321140101" // Cloud Age Symphony
"321140102" // Over The Sky
"321140103" // Buddy
"321140104" // Starboard

// TRIBAL CHAIR pack
"321150001" // New Answer
"321150002" // 909
"321150003" // Third eye creation
"321150004" // Prison

// jukebeat ---------------------------------------------------------------
"100010001" // Frogger's Song
"100010002" // Dense Forest Battle
"100010003" // LETHAL ENFORCERS Medley

// Strung Out pack
"411010001" // Matchbook
"411010002" // Analog
"411010003" // Calling
"411010004" // Black Crosses

// Strike Anywhere pack
"411020001" // Chalkline
"411020002" // Infrared
"411020003" // Instinct
"411020004" // Failed State

// Mamas Gun pack
"411040001" // House on a Hill
"411040002" // Finger on It
"411040003" // Reconnection
"411040004" // Rocket to the Moon

// Rise Against pack
"411050001" // Prayer of the Refugee
"411050002" // The Good Left Undone
"411050003" // Savior
"411050004" // Help Is On the Way

// Lady Gaga pack
"411060001" // Just Dance
"411060002" // Poker Face
"411060003" // Bad Romance
"411060004" // Born This Way

// Cyndi Lauper pack
"411070001" // Girls Just Want To Have Fun
"411070002" // Money Changes Everything
"411070003" // All Through The Night
"411070004" // She Bop

// Gloria Estefan pack
"411080001" // 1-2-3
"411080002" // Bad Boy
"411080003" // Dr. Beat
"411080004" // Rhythm Is Gonna Get You

// Bad Religion pack
"411090001" // Infected
"411090002" // Punk Rock Song
"411090003" // Sorrow
"411090004" // Los Angeles Is Burning

// TLC pack
"411100001" // Diggin On You
"411100002" // Waterfalls
"411100003" // Silly Ho
"411100004" // Get It Up

// Culture Club pack
"411110001" // Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?
"411110002" // Karma Chameleon
"411110003" // It's A Miracle
"411110004" // Time (Clock Of The Heart)

// Duran Duran pack
"411120001" // The Reflex
"411120002" // Ordinary World
"411120003" // All You Need Is Now
"411120004" // Girl Panic!

// Toto pack
"411170001" // Child's Anthem
"411170002" // 99
"411170003" // Africa
"411170004" // Mushanga

Post #533 · Posted at 2012-05-09 01:20:21pm 1.9 years ago

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*in need of an iPad right now*

I bought an iPad 3rd gen just for jubeat plus and Reflec Beat. Spent hundreds of bucks to get almost all current songs available on the stores. I even have jukebeat just for the exclusives. Good times, especially since you know, there haven't been much CS games coming out anymore.
STOP IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT Oops

Oh my god Somebody call 911 this guy is too rich!

Post #534 · Posted at 2012-05-11 02:44:16pm 1.9 years ago

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A jubeat plus pack is announced to be coming out on June 8th with songs from a movie called Kami Voice:

http://otomen.jp/archives/2012/05/09185522.php

"神☆ヴォイス pack" (Kami Voice pack)

Source credit goes to purotora.com.

Bump: "氣志團 pack" (jubeat plus) now supported by the score tracker.

Post #535 · Posted at 2012-05-11 09:10:58pm 1.9 years ago

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This new pack sort of makes me want to play Ouendan. Just because.

Sort of dying for a new copious pack here... they've really slammed the brakes on them this year.

Post #536 · Posted at 2012-05-11 09:43:11pm 1.9 years ago

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I wish they now release copious pack 07. It's taking too long I think. jukebeat only needs 2 KONAMI packs before releasing the copious ones

Post #537 · Posted at 2012-05-14 01:34:20pm 1.9 years ago

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Does Chance and Dice [EXT] feel a bit offsync to anyone else? It seems like I have to hit the markers a bit early to get a perfect.




PS: Who else thinks Africa [EXT] is one of the best charts in the game?

Post #538 · Posted at 2012-05-19 08:33:07pm 1.9 years ago

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KONAMIさんから配信中のiPad/iPhone/iPod touch対応リズムゲーム jubeat plus の追加楽曲パックの中に ハッピーシンセサイザ が収録されますニコニコ・ミュージックパックとして5月25日より配信開始です

Niconico Music Pack on May 25th apparently.

Post #539 · Posted at 2012-05-21 12:07:07am 1.9 years ago

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Good songpack idea for Konami, and this can no doubt be released for jubeat plus AND jukebeat:

SWING OUT SISTER PACK

1. Breakout
2. Anything by them
3. Anything by them
4. Anything by them
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Post #540 · Posted at 2012-05-21 11:34:36am 1.9 years ago

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