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Post #801 · Posted at 2010-08-20 11:41:35am 13.6 years ago

Offline Revolver
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Where are half of the files for this week? I can't seem to find links to Cry! Roar!!, Heaven or Hell, or a few of the others.
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Post #802 · Posted at 2010-08-20 12:35:13pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Kynayo
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"キナヨ"
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Scroll down until you see "Boss Week -" then the song name.
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Post #803 · Posted at 2010-08-20 03:11:19pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Revolver
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Thanks. Didn't realize there was a simfile category for this.
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Post #804 · Posted at 2010-08-22 10:00:24am 13.6 years ago

Offline Braeden47
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"X scale 20"
1st ERaSeR EnGinE DistorteD 3
2nd Laser Cruster 2
3rd Seikan Hikou 1

Totals:
ERaSeR EnGinE DistorteD - 7
prohibition of world - 4
Seikan Hikou - 5
Cry! Roar!! - 3
Self vs Self (ft. In Flames) - 2
Laser Cruster 2
Heaven or Hell - 1

Post #805 · Posted at 2010-08-22 10:09:17am 13.6 years ago

Offline Revolver
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Assuming people not in the contest are allowed to vote...



1st: Self vs Self (ft. In Flames) - 3 (by FAR the best thing here, IMO)
2nd: The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku - 2 (sloppy at times but competent in following most rhythms)
3rd: Gaussian Mist - 1 (ridiculous, but there was way too much double BPM/wrong BPM/constant double stepping in the other files for me to enjoy)

Totals:

ERaSeR EnGinE DistorteD - 7
Self vs Self (ft. In Flames) - 5
Seikan Hikou - 5
prohibition of world - 4
Cry! Roar!! - 3
The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku - 2
Laser Cruster - 2
Gaussian Mist - 1
Heaven or Hell - 1
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Post #806 · Posted at 2010-08-22 10:48:30am 13.6 years ago

Offline Darkstorm091
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"AKA Azaliate"
OMGASDF I almost forgot to vote.

1st: ERaSeR EnGinE DistorteD
2nd: Prohibition of World
3rd: Self vs Self (ft. In Flames)

ERaSeR EnGinE DistorteD - 10
Self vs Self (ft. In Flames) - 6
prohibition of world - 6
Seikan Hikou - 5
Cry! Roar!! - 3
The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku - 2
Laser Cruster - 2
Gaussian Mist - 1
Heaven or Hell - 1

Also, what is with the extreme dislike of double steps? From what I've seen all of the REPLICANT D-ACTION songs double step and that was what influenced me the most when I was making the chart for LASER CRUSTER (Most of the other times it's me experimenting/accidental).
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Post #807 · Posted at 2010-08-22 11:44:23am 13.6 years ago

Offline Revolver
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Double stepping is pretty much a mistake, in my eyes. They hinder flow drastically, and make hitting anything fast incredibly difficult and awkward. The BPM in most of these are nearly unreadable without memorization, or just plain incorrect (Cry! Roar!! drifts really bad, and I believe Heaven or Hell does?). It makes me wonder if these were tested on pad. Double BPM for no reason = Cry, especially when you also have a 4x slowdown in the same chart.

As a note, I really wouldn't use DDR boss songs as an example, considering how things like Paranoia Hades, Chaos, Trigger, New Decade, Pluto The First, and others have turned out. I don't believe Shiny World or Possession have double steps in them, either.
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Post #808 · Posted at 2010-08-22 11:52:29am 13.6 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Quote: Darkstorm091

Also, what is with the extreme dislike of double steps? From what I've seen all of the REPLICANT D-ACTION songs double step

You see wrong. Many of the RDA songs (In particular, Pierce the Sky) use things like AFRONOVA walks that many people incorrectly identify as double steps.

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As a note, I really wouldn't use DDR boss songs as an example, considering how things like Paranoia Hades, Chaos, Trigger, New Decade, Pluto The First, and others have turned out. I don't believe Shiny World or Possession have double steps in them, either.

Why are you putting New Decade in with those other songs? New Decade has a great chart.

Post #809 · Posted at 2010-08-22 12:13:53pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Revolver
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I thought New Decade was some 400 BPM Replicant song with a ton of doublestepping? I haven't watched it recently, so maybe I'm thinking of something else, or not remembering it quite right.
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Post #810 · Posted at 2010-08-22 12:17:40pm 13.6 years ago

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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
It is 400BPM, but it doesn't have any double stepping in it. It does have a lot of AFRONOVA walks, but they really aren't that bad.

Post #811 · Posted at 2010-08-23 01:25:36am 13.6 years ago

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Quote: Telperion
Quote: PanStyle
(it will be a 10 with lot of crossovers)
Shocked yes PLEASE.
I finished it few days ago for forgot to send you a link to it Smile
That's a hard 10 Challenge double.
All crossovers are possible (some on 8th part are hard).
I hope you'll enjoy it on pad Smile
That's very different from "In Scotish Highlands" (my file for the doublezz week).

Winterbliss Challenge Doublezz
(i'll add graphics in the future even if i suck at it)

Other people are free to DL this but warning, it contains rolls (only at beginning), also it's double only like i said one the page before.
I can still send a version were the 6 rolls on the beginning are freezes if anyone ask for it.

Yes i'm a little off topic i know, but i still post it here. Why ?
I planed to use this song for the contest but...
- Double week doesn't use songs that are longer than 2:30
- Long week have mandatory singles charts (and my feeling about this song was double)
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Post #812 · Posted at 2010-08-23 11:31:04am 13.6 years ago

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Post #813 · Posted at 2010-08-23 11:36:41am 13.6 years ago

Offline Kynayo
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"キナヨ"
Sorry, I've been gone a couple days, and also, I'm really sorry Revolver, I'm not trying to pick on you, it's just that I found a lot wrong in what you said.

Quote: Revolver
(...but there was way too much double BPM/wrong BPM/constant double stepping in the other files for me to enjoy)

There's a lot of song with double BPMs, and half BPMs(which if you think about it, makes the original BPM double BPM anyways, Possession for example), so get used to it. And if that was the sole reason you voted that song (no offense Braeden47), there wasn't any Wrong BPMs, any BPM changes, or any double stepping(or at least very little) in Eraser Engine Distorted or Seikan Hikou if I recall correctly

Quote: Revolver
Double stepping is pretty much a mistake, in my eyes. They hinder flow drastically, and make hitting anything fast incredibly difficult and awkward.

That depends, if it's the same direction twice, then it's fine.

Quote: Revolver
The BPM in most of these are nearly unreadable without memorization, or just plain incorrect

Unreadable? You don't really play that much do you... 400 is still technically readable, so all the songs are pretty much in the clear.

Quote: Revolver
(Cry! Roar!! drifts really bad, and I believe Heaven or Hell does?).

When I was charting Cry! Roar!!, it went exactly with the assist tick, so I have no idea what you're talking about it drifting. Heaven and Hell might drift, I'm not sure because I charted that a while back, but it still shouldn't be that noticeable. It might just be of-sync fr you while you're playing because (for me at least) most songs that are on sync with the song are slightly off sync with the assist tick.

Quote: Revolver
Double BPM for no reason = Cry, especially when you also have a 4x slowdown in the same chart.

For Heaven and Hell, it WAS a little mean, I've got to admit, not nitpicking at this, but you know this is going to happen in Boss songs soon enough, plus, it adds a challenge for all those players that love a certain speed mod, it either makes them read faster, or read smaller and more precise.

Oh, and I agree with Pie for New Decade, that is a kick ass chart (now, if only I could play it Tongue)
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Post #814 · Posted at 2010-08-23 10:49:33pm 13.6 years ago

Offline ziv348
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"proud to be #2400"
Another before-I-forget.

1 - The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku (+3)
2 - Cry! Roar!! (+2) Smile
3 - Gaussian Mist (+1)

Totals:
ERaSeR EnGinE DistorteD - 10
Self vs Self (ft. In Flames) - 6
prohibition of world - 6
Seikan Hikou - 5
Cry! Roar!! - 5
The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku - 5
Laser Cruster - 2
Gaussian Mist - 2
Heaven or Hell - 1

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Post #815 · Posted at 2010-08-24 01:54:21am 13.6 years ago

Offline Revolver
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Quote: Kynayo
There's a lot of song with double BPMs, and half BPMs(which if you think about it, makes the original BPM double BPM anyways, Possession for example), so get used to it. And if that was the sole reason you voted that song (no offense Braeden47), there wasn't any Wrong BPMs, any BPM changes, or any double stepping(or at least very little) in Eraser Engine Distorted or Seikan Hikou if I recall correctly

Doubling the BPM for no reason is just nonsensical to me. Why make a song that is 160 BPM run at 320 BPM? Also, every song didn't double the BPM, but Seikan Hikou was bland and didn't go to anything, and EED seemed awkward and the song made my ears bleed. Gaussian Mist didn't really look fun, but to be honest I didn't really have a ranking outside of what I thought #1 and #2 were. I just glanced through them again and made a quick choice. Despite have rofldumb trills, the basics of the charts seemed okay (attempting to follow music, not having double steps constantly). On a different note, that Expert is a 14, if not a 15.

Quote: Kynayo
That depends, if it's the same direction twice, then it's fine.

Question Mark

Quote: Kynayo
Unreadable? You don't really play that much do you... 400 is still technically readable, so all the songs are pretty much in the clear.

Uh, I've played quite a lot. I don't mean that 400 is too fast to read. I mean that having sections of 400 and 25 BPM in the same song with actual notes in both sections is a really, really bad idea. Especially since most songs have nothing in them to justify that.

Quote: Kynayo
When I was charting Cry! Roar!!, it went exactly with the assist tick, so I have no idea what you're talking about it drifting. Heaven and Hell might drift, I'm not sure because I charted that a while back, but it still shouldn't be that noticeable. It might just be of-sync fr you while you're playing because (for me at least) most songs that are on sync with the song are slightly off sync with the assist tick.

Cry! Roar!! doesn't drift as I assume it did. However, I don't think the 3/64th runs follow assist tick. >_>Heaven or Hell is understandable, if it doesn't have any sort of official BPM listing. The double BPM is still D:. If anything, just try to get the sync of the song before and after the speed up to be similar. IIRC (going off of memory here), the song gets early after the speed up section.

Quote: Kynayo
For Heaven and Hell, it WAS a little mean, I've got to admit, not nitpicking at this, but you know this is going to happen in Boss songs soon enough, plus, it adds a challenge for all those players that love a certain speed mod, it either makes them read faster, or read smaller and more precise.

I'm just not a fan of artificial difficulty.
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Post #816 · Posted at 2010-08-24 02:30:41am 13.6 years ago

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"AKA Azaliate"
Last minute entry go:
Cutting it really close this week but this song went through a bunch of revisions. Hope you enjoy it.
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5 / 7 / 9

P.S. I apologize in advance but I think my StepMania is acting up on me so the song may be off sync. I went to a friend's house to fix it, but you may want to double check before you play it just to be safe.
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Post #817 · Posted at 2010-08-24 09:16:46am 13.6 years ago

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Final week is over. results for BOSS WEEK

1st ERaSeR EnGinE DistorteD - 10
T2nd Self vs Self (ft. In Flames), and prohibition of world
T3rd and Seikan Hikou, Cry! Roar!!, and The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku - 5

Voting for Final Week can began. Voting for Best Summer Simfile will be next week.

Overall a grand total of 216 simfiles and by 29 members. This contest was MUCH BIGGER then I thought it would be. You may also bet there will be one next year. I thank you all for your submissions and comments. Happy

Post #818 · Posted at 2010-08-25 06:30:36pm 13.6 years ago

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Quote: Revolver
and EED seemed awkward and the song made my ears bleed

*evil laugh* My work here is done.
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20:20:51 · Blinded_No_More: LOL, I can sum it up like this:     20:20:55 · Blinded_No_More: Eurobeat = Steppable power metal

Post #819 · Posted at 2010-08-25 07:13:09pm 13.6 years ago

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omg, that is it?
What ever happened to Crazy Batsh!t insane meme Week or whatever? Sad
oh gawd, I missed out. lol

Post #820 · Posted at 2010-08-30 09:13:07am 13.5 years ago

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Last vote!


Counting Down the Days
Awkward cut Sad
S-Heavy: Very DDR-ish, I like it. The only thing I have to say about it that's bad is that it might be a bit too karaoke in some spots.
S-Challenge: Too much like the S-Heavy, and too much karaoke.

I'm so Happy
I get an offset about -0.09 seconds off from yours with AutoSync...fyi Wink
S-Standard: Better than S-Heavy. I think the placement could be a bit more interesting.
S-Heavy: yipes, this is a hard 9. A couple really painful doublesteps. Kind of looks like it was meant to be Pump-ish.

The Last Day of Pompeii
oon-tz oon-tz oon-tz oon-tz
S-Heavy: This chart feels really good. Well-balanced, good placement, good density - it's a winner. Would pad.
S-Challenge: It's kind of funny how much this chart reminds me of ZETA, but you wrote this before we knew about ZETA Tongue A bit overstepped in the quiet parts.



My votes: (and since there's only three besides me, you all get votes, yay!)
The Last Day of Pompeii - 3 pts.
Counting Down the Days - 2 pts.
I'm So Happy - 1 pt.
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