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Post #1 · Posted at 2008-11-24 10:15:53am 15.4 years ago

Offline zodiak_911
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Hi everyone! I was just a little curious about some of those songs where there are secret and almost unnoticeable BPM changes. The most well-known example is Ecstacy, and we all know what mess Insertion is BPM-Wise... I have noticed a slight change near the beginning of Electro Tuned(The Subs Mix) and of course one in Tir Na N'Og (or whatever it is spelled) after the slowdown, where the BPM changes a little bit during the freeze then get back to normal.

Do you have any other examples of those secret BPM changes? If you could provide a video of the song and point the moment where it changes, it would be very appreciatedHappy

Post #2 · Posted at 2008-11-24 10:19:38am 15.4 years ago

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SABER WING speeds up to 444 at one point (although that is slightly noticeable), like TLoM does to 666. They just aren't telling you.

Post #3 · Posted at 2008-11-24 10:23:08am 15.4 years ago

Offline silenttype01
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"DINGDONG♥HEARTS"
.59 at the end
Ska A Go Go at 00:37 - 00:42
Ecstasy (midnight blue mix) at 01:13 to the end

I'm not sure about Love So Groovy


Post #4 · Posted at 2008-11-24 10:23:32am 15.4 years ago

Offline NEMESetup
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"Gimme a mothaf----n' break!"
BURNIN' THE FLOOR (MOMO MIX) has a little moment where it goes to 340 BPM, although it's probably not all that "hidden"...

Post #5 · Posted at 2008-11-24 10:42:26am 15.4 years ago

Offline Azure Kite
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I believe Mello (from Ultramix 2) has speed ups

Quote: Wikipedia article
Mello: Written by Alien#Six13, this song possesses a property similar to The legend of MAX. During each of the two long freeze arrows in the song, the tempo speeds up from the usual 97 BPM to 783, surpassing The legend of MAX and all other DDR songs to date (until SuperNOVA 2 with the release of Pluto Relinquish). After the second freeze, the tempo picks up at 194 BPM for the remainder of the song.

Post #6 · Posted at 2008-11-24 10:45:11am 15.4 years ago

Offline NEMESetup
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"Gimme a mothaf----n' break!"
Quote: bemanifire
I believe Mello (from Ultramix 2) has speed ups

Quote: Wikipedia article
Mello: Written by Alien#Six13, this song possesses a property similar to The legend of MAX. During each of the two long freeze arrows in the song, the tempo speeds up from the usual 97 BPM to 783, surpassing The legend of MAX and all other DDR songs to date (until SuperNOVA 2 with the release of Pluto Relinquish). After the second freeze, the tempo picks up at 194 BPM for the remainder of the song.

Yup, that's true.

Also, R10K is loaded with BPM changes.

Post #7 · Posted at 2008-11-24 11:36:48am 15.4 years ago

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Insaner ~LED'S punishment Mix~

The ending is certainly not 220 bpm , 440 yes.
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Post #8 · Posted at 2008-11-24 11:39:43am 15.4 years ago

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Quote: hyper kitten
Insaner ~LED'S punishment Mix~

The ending is certainly not 220 bpm , 440 yes.
More like 350.

Post #9 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:03:41pm 15.4 years ago

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wow i never knew there was so many slight BPM changes in DDR songs. Curus goes from 184 to 188 but i think it's displayed though

Post #10 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:07:17pm 15.4 years ago

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wow i never knew there was so many slight BPM changes in DDR songs. Curus goes from 184 to 188 but i think it's displayed though
DanDanDO goes from 156 to 160, but in both cases they're displayed, but almost unnoticeable.

Post #11 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:10:09pm 15.4 years ago

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"No."
Little Bitch slows down a BPM or two in the middle.
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Post #12 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:13:18pm 15.4 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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ANGELUS has several slowdowns throughout the song, part of why it can be so difficult to time if you don't know where they are.

Post #13 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:29:40pm 15.4 years ago

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Quote: piepiepie75
ANGELUS has several slowdowns throughout the song, part of why it can be so difficult to time if you don't know where they are.
i never knew there was BPM changes in that songShocked i will have to keep that in mind when playing thatSmile

Post #14 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:50:05pm 15.4 years ago

Offline zodiak_911
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Yes, it is more noticeable just at the end of the song with the 10 or so last steps. Angelus was one I had noticed but forgot to mention, thanks there Pie!
Another one, I'm not quite sure about it, but please someone check it out on a Supernova machine, 'cause I feel that Stoic(Extreme Version) gets slightly offsync after the stop near the end, it might be a BPM change, a small stop error or just my imagination...

BTW, I'm sorry if I didn't specified, but I wanted to learn about really subtle ones, like Electro Tuned, Ecstacy, Angelus or Little Bitch(Ididn't know there was a slowdown!) or even .59, because a jump from 170 to 340 is quite noticeable even if the BPM-meter doesn't specify it lol! I must admit that the 350 BPM in Insaner was hard to guess though. Also, does anyone know the exact moment where Curus and DanDanDo's BPMs change? I never even felt a slight difference...

Thanks everyone, and keep on finding new ones!

Post #15 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:53:36pm 15.4 years ago

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"DINGDONG♥HEARTS"
Dan Dan Do is near the beginning and Curus is around the middle where the freeze arrows are in S-Heavy

Post #16 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:54:18pm 15.4 years ago

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"キナヨ"
For DanDanDo, where the triplets come in on Heavy, is where it slows down.
http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/ddrsig/2437_2.png?t=1243791500

Post #17 · Posted at 2008-11-24 12:54:40pm 15.4 years ago

Offline NEMESetup
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"Gimme a mothaf----n' break!"
While SAMBA DE JANEIRO mainly runs at 160 BPM, it has little moments where it runs at 154 BPM.

Post #18 · Posted at 2008-11-24 01:02:27pm 15.4 years ago

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"キナヨ"
did anybody mention aftershock!! yet?
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Post #19 · Posted at 2008-11-24 01:22:44pm 15.4 years ago

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It's another one where it's obvious so not really worth mentionning

Post #20 · Posted at 2008-11-25 01:23:29am 15.4 years ago

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"jubeat knit one, purl two"
Simply Being Loved (Somnambulist) slows down for a measure right before the second set of triplets on S-Heavy.
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