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What do you think a 20 in DDR X will be like?

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Post #1 · Posted at 2008-08-30 12:35:59pm 15.6 years ago

Offline Braeden47
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"X scale 20"
With existing songs only going up to 18(FELM oni), What do you think a 20 on DDR X will be like? An ITG 13? FELM oni with shock arrows? This?

Post #2 · Posted at 2008-08-30 12:44:05pm 15.6 years ago

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Well to tell you the truth, i DON'T want to see a 20...but at the same time, i will be fascinated to see a full 20 on DDR X...

...and i have a feeling it might be something dealing with MAX >_>

it's amazing that FELM Challenge is just an 18 footer...i have this feeling that IF you play the 20 footer song, they will have a WARNING banner RIGHT before you play it LOL

Post #3 · Posted at 2008-08-30 12:49:44pm 15.6 years ago

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I want a 20. It would feel so empty if there wasn't a song that filled up the scale.

I don't know if I would like it or ever play it for anything other than a challenge but it should still be there.

Post #4 · Posted at 2008-08-30 12:59:15pm 15.6 years ago

Offline Kynayo
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"キナヨ"
On X, there's probably gonna be 2 19's and a 20 or something...
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Post #5 · Posted at 2008-08-30 12:59:38pm 15.6 years ago

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True, it's not like i DON'T want a 20, but judging on how they rate the scale, a 20 would need a WARNING or DANGER sign before playing it...sooo all i would do is try it without using the feet and see how hard THAT is, because if i can do it with my fingers, i can almost do it with my feet too...

Post #6 · Posted at 2008-08-30 01:07:53pm 15.6 years ago

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Lol, a liability waver comes out out of the machine before playing one and you have to sign it before you can play it.

I predict that there will be one boss song that is a 19 on Challenge and an uber boss song that is a 19 on Expert and a 20 on Challenge.

Post #7 · Posted at 2008-08-30 01:32:09pm 15.6 years ago

Offline adh2008
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When you see it, you will shit bricks
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Post #8 · Posted at 2008-08-30 01:33:10pm 15.6 years ago

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You're probably right.

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Post #9 · Posted at 2008-08-30 04:46:38pm 15.6 years ago

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Retarded, obviously

Post #10 · Posted at 2008-08-30 06:17:14pm 15.6 years ago

Offline NeoRevenG
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You'll gonna die after try 19 or 20. Maybe 20 filled with Ultra high Speed blend with chaotic steps, tons of shock arrows, and many more. Somewhat feel like 13 footer on ITG.
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Post #11 · Posted at 2008-08-30 10:00:44pm 15.6 years ago

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Retarded, obviously
QFT.

And enough of this crap about "oh, you'll hurt yourself playing this song.". BS. I have never hurt myself playing a hard song, not even when I've attempted FELMO and whatnot. If you actually have the dexterity to even attempt a hard song, you're not going to hurt yourself.
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Post #12 · Posted at 2008-08-30 10:15:27pm 15.6 years ago

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"りゅうきのん♪"
well

i'll get sick after i play it Annoyed

OMG Laughing Out Loud
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Post #13 · Posted at 2008-08-30 10:41:00pm 15.6 years ago

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Quote: NeoRevenG
You'll gonna die after try 19 or 20. Maybe 20 filled with Ultra high Speed blend with chaotic steps, tons of shock arrows, and many more.

Trust me, I made one already. Erasermotor Maximum. Download it, play it. I'm not sure if it'd be a 19 or a 20, but it'd be one of 'em.
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Post #14 · Posted at 2008-08-30 11:41:35pm 15.6 years ago

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A 2MB remix Laughing Hard

Wink

Post #15 · Posted at 2008-08-30 11:49:32pm 15.6 years ago

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"キナヨ"
2MB FEAT DJ KYNAYO!!!! lol.
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Post #16 · Posted at 2008-08-31 12:03:29am 15.6 years ago

Offline mageman17
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"MAGGLE"
I do expect a level 20 (no more foot ratings since SN2) on DDR X. All I ask is that it really be a 20,
not the exaggeration that the 10 footers were (I thought there were ten footers and then the flashing
ten footers, if so, why bump down sakura if all the newer boss songs were flashing ten footers on
some difficulties).

In other words rate something a 20 (or a19 or 18), when it deserves that rating, not because it's a boss song. And give licensed songs the chance to be given higher ratings (I could say that Cartoon Heroes
deserved a ten and give Super Samurai an 8) when they deserve it.

As to the question on hand, I'm expecting a new boss song will take that spot. I don't think it feels
right to give that rating to a paranoia remix (or a max remix, but i could be persuaded). If 2MB
composes the level 20 song, odds are, it is hard, confusing, fast, a fat-burner, complicated and advanced. In other words, it is a very stupid, horrendous, atrocious, suck-fest, "any negative thing you can name" song.

Sorry for the wave of obscenities, but I've seen IIDX/O2Jam charts and played stepmania simfiles
which irritated me to no end on an hourly basis.
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Post #17 · Posted at 2008-08-31 12:18:33am 15.6 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Sakura Heavy got bumped down to a 9 because it's not any harder than Dynamite Rave Heavy.
Cartoon Heroes is not even near a 10. I was getting an A on that long before I even passed PS or Max 300. Unless you're saying that they should have made a harder chart for it, in which case, it's a matter of opinion. Current chart is really as hard as the song justifies.

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Post #18 · Posted at 2008-08-31 12:32:12am 15.6 years ago

Offline mageman17
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"MAGGLE"
Sorry, I was actually not in the best of my moods when I wrote that (and i still am not, though I'm
feeling better).

What was the whole purpose of introducing the flashing ten rating. It gave them a chance to give songs
which are especially hard to be one step above the hard songs (translation: boss songs), not because
when the next mix comes up, they'll promote ten footers to flashing ten footers only to get bopped down on SN2.

And yeah, even the ten footer rating was almost exclusive for boss songs (except on some songs
which used such gimmicks)
sakura-speed change a few milliseconds before an arrow and the ending.
bag-bad rhythm and beat, slow bpm remedied by speed mods.

I'm just hoping the ratings will be a fair AND unbiased on DDR X. and I'm still waiting for that
level 20 song that knox ur sox off due to cliche speed changes, bad steps and possibly music.

I'm getting too angry, I'm gonna beat all this anger out of me on HDV on stepmania (the way I smash
my keyboard on the part with a lot of jumps really calms me down).

EDIT: I haven't tested out cartoon heroes yet, but super samurai is just a fairly standard song to me.
I feel... and insertion tire me more easily (dancing on stepmania without a dance pad).
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Post #19 · Posted at 2008-08-31 12:43:17am 15.6 years ago

Offline Shubox
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Hopefully, DDR X will have one real boss song that truly can be considered boss.

Seriously what's the point of putting 6 boss songs if the steps are horrible. Put all your effort into ONE REAL boss song.

Post #20 · Posted at 2008-08-31 12:46:00am 15.6 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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For someone who hasn't touched a machine since 3rd mix, you get pretty beside yourself about the whole thing...

Flashing 10s are not sufficient to distinct between the various degrees of 10s that are out there. Flashing 7s were not NEEEEEAAAAARRRLLLLY enough to distinct between all those difficulty levels in IIDX. 20s are not only meant to give different 10s their rightful level of difficulties, but to also do the same to the other difficulty levels.

Let's take a look at 9s, for example:

Brilliant R・E・D (12 on the new scale)
Healing Vision Angelic Mix (13 on the new scale)
Unreal/NGO heavy (14 on the new scale).

These were all rated 9s on SN2, but their degrees of difficulties were pretty wide. The new scale makes definite distinctions between them.
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