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Post #1 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:02:41am 15.8 years ago

Offline Rmix
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With all the crazy songs like Hades, NGO(Oni), FaxX, PO etc. What you consider stops you from beating it?

For me is stamina. If i'm pump up, I could get really far on most of them.

Post #2 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:07:18am 15.8 years ago

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Post #3 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:15:29am 15.8 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
For the SN2 10s, it's mostly AWKWARD that's causing me trouble. "Here, do these crossovers to get you facing this way, then jump over here."
For the ITG ones, it's speed. I can't really move fast enough for most of them yet.
Those two take me out long before stamina becomes an issue.
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Post #4 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:18:07am 15.8 years ago

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Speed and crossovers for me as well.

It takes too long for my mind to click and realise that it's a crossover and to NOT double-step some charts. This is usually the case if the chart scrolls too fast.

If the chart, scrolls too slow however, my mind just goes blank with too many arrows on the screen. Sad

Post #5 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:34:45am 15.8 years ago

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Mostly stamina for me, especially in higher up ITG songs.

One thing that really screws me over in a lot of 10 footers though is jumps. In Maxx Unlimited, the thing that kept killing me before i was finally able to pass it was the jumps mixed in the second half. Same thing with Paranoia Hades. The jumps at the beginning kill me before I can really get anywhere in the song, though even if i could get past it, I would definatly die at the crossover part at the end anyway lol.

Post #6 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:37:43am 15.8 years ago

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It takes too long for my mind to click and realise that it's a crossover and to NOT double-step some charts. This is usually the case if the chart scrolls too fast.

If the chart, scrolls too slow however, my mind just goes blank with too many arrows on the screen. Sad
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Post #7 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:59:22am 15.8 years ago

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Stamina and crossovers.

I know how to do them but sometimes I get confused while I'm sideways. Stamina is also a problem. I'm 5'6 ~180 pounds. Myself and others are surprised that I have the stamina I have but I need a lot more to pass 10 footers and boss songs on Standard.

I only managed to pass 3 10 footers.

bag Heavy (sped up of course)
CHAOS Heavy
Outer Limits Heavy, the festival or SN2 chart.

The latter was in front of people and they were like "DAMN! You move fast!" XD
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Post #8 · Posted at 2008-06-30 06:10:57am 15.8 years ago

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Crossovers on fast songs mess me up bad. Sometimes, I somewhat forget where the arrow that im crossing over is so ill end up hitting the center, or the lower left panel.
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Post #9 · Posted at 2008-06-30 07:16:14am 15.8 years ago

Offline goemon4
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Though i can pass (and usually A) pretty much every 10 up to Supernova (Excluding some challenge charts) my 2 main reasons for failing 10's are bad step charts and oddly placed jumps. Songs like Maxx Unlimited are easy for me jump wise, but when it comes to FELM on Challenge, Unreal on expert (i know a 9), NGO on challange, or FAXX on expert, the charts are so bad i just dont want to play them.

I havent played to many of the SN2 boss charts on a pad, but most are pretty retarded as well (Stepchart wise). Pluto Relinquish makes sense in a way, since it is synced with the song quite well, but the NGO and Hades challenge charts are just made tough for no reason it seems. And again with FAXX, its expert chart isnt even synced with the song, so its hard to pass it for me since i try to keep with the beat but they add extra steps, and off beat steps, and randomly placed jumps which i just hate.


I hate DDR, but just cant stop playing it...

Post #10 · Posted at 2008-06-30 07:49:05am 15.8 years ago

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I can do speed quite well. I have been able to clear FAXX Expert before. My main problem is crossovers. Yeah, at only 200 BPM or something, they're fun. When it's in Paranoia survivor or even faster, I have real problems keeping alive. That's why the end part of NGO kills me on Heavy often.
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Post #11 · Posted at 2008-06-30 05:11:52pm 15.8 years ago

Offline limewirelord
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Well, I think stamina is more important than speed. You can learn technique, you can't learn stamina Dead It's probably the reason why I'm still stuck at 9-10's. Annoyed

Post #12 · Posted at 2008-06-30 09:00:42pm 15.8 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
You can't learn stamina, but if you continually push at the boundaries of your stamina, you'll develop more stamina.
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Post #13 · Posted at 2008-07-30 01:37:12am 15.7 years ago

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Post #14 · Posted at 2008-07-30 02:21:27am 15.7 years ago

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Stamina, if the song has AIR then I'm done.

Post #15 · Posted at 2008-07-30 02:34:01am 15.7 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Oh, I guess I should change my answer. It now varies from song to song now, but stamina is the killer on more songs now than speed. If I had more stamina, I would have finished Infection last night.
AWKWARD is still a problem for the SN2 bosses though. Mostly keeps me from even trying them, because I've watched the chart, and I know it won't be fun to play.
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Post #16 · Posted at 2008-07-30 04:58:30pm 15.7 years ago

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Both Fascination MAXX and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ on Challenge are killer songs. I think not only stamina and technique required to beat those songs but knowing the steps especially on very slow BPM section is more important.

Post #17 · Posted at 2008-07-30 09:09:39pm 15.7 years ago

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Quote: Blue-Z
Both Fascination MAXX and Fascination ~eternal love mix~ on Challenge are killer songs. I think not only stamina and technique required to beat those songs but knowing the steps especially on very slow BPM section is also important.

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Post #18 · Posted at 2008-08-05 01:56:32am 15.7 years ago

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Stamina is what gets me alot on DDR. I tire at the last section on FELMHeavy , fall down on the pad , then fail. While paranoia HadesStandard and Heavy kills me with all that AIR! For ITG its speed plus the density of the arrows on screen. As far as technique, crossovers are almost easy to me, except on NGO and Arrabiatta
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Post #19 · Posted at 2008-08-09 09:01:27am 15.7 years ago

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The BPM, stops, chaos. That's it. I actually failed CHAOS because of too much chaotic arrows that entered in the game///

Post #20 · Posted at 2008-08-09 09:14:18am 15.7 years ago

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How to play CHAOS easily? Hear and play that song more than 100x and remember there are 42 stops within. Just remember when you must "stop" and move.
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