ポスト #21 · 2014-05-26 08:37:09pmにポスト 10年前
Sigrev2 | |
---|---|
Member+ | |
4,182 ポスト | |
Reg. 2009-10-17 | |
"suffering from success" |
Gonna do a bit of train-of-thought writing here...
B. Just because you would handle a situation a certain way, that doesn't automatically mean that other people would handle the situation the same way. Also, if you're going to cancel your project because people were making criticisms you weren't liking, then why would you even bother starting the project in the first place? Not all criticisms are positive, and you should know that upon starting. And if all the criticisms are negative, maybe that should be a sign for you to start doing something different?
I'm just rambling at this point, so I'm gonna end it here.
Quote: bmhedgehog
This is 370K's Theme Project and no one else's.
Correct, and no one is trying to take it away from him.Quote
I know that everyone wants to help and try to provide constructive criticism, but if 370K doesn't want to use Photoshop or GIMP then that is his choice. So please everyone, please respect 370K's choice.
It is his choice if he wants to make an un-aesthetically pleasing theme, and it is our choice if we choose not to play said un-aesthetically pleasing theme. You said it yourself; people are trying to help. That's why they're recommending the usage of GIMP/Photoshop. If he's going to make a theme he wants people to use, then he's going to need to at least try to put some effort into the graphics; at least try to make it look professional. The worst part of it is that, despite the help and recommendations, OP continues to ignore what people are suggesting. That's not a wise thing for someone to do when making a product for people to use, and enabling that kind of mindset does not make anything better.Quote
I've got a feeling that if you guys keep putting pressure on him, he will most likely stop this project and never release it.
Nobody's putting pressure on him. At all. You said it yourself: "I know that everyone wants to help and try to provide constructive criticism". So how did we go from "providing constructive criticism" to "putting pressure on OP"? Or are you pulling this guilt card out to try and make people feel bad for trying to help in ways you don't agree with?Quote
If I was working on a theme and did the same thing, you all would be putting pressure on me to do the same thing then even I would feel like giving up and stop the project and not release it.
A. Nobody is putting pressure on anyone. That's easily identifiable by looking through the thread.B. Just because you would handle a situation a certain way, that doesn't automatically mean that other people would handle the situation the same way. Also, if you're going to cancel your project because people were making criticisms you weren't liking, then why would you even bother starting the project in the first place? Not all criticisms are positive, and you should know that upon starting. And if all the criticisms are negative, maybe that should be a sign for you to start doing something different?
Quote
So please everyone let him do this. Let him go about this project his own way. If you don't like the way he's working on it then don't download the theme.
That defeats the entire purpose of making this theme then. Isn't the whole goal for this project to be an enjoyable theme for people to use? If people are going to ignore the project just because OP doesn't want to change things to make it appealing for players, then why bother? It's just a waste of time and energy. But if OP wants to create a theme for people to enjoy, he's gonna need to start taking heed to what others are saying. That the wise thing to do.I'm just rambling at this point, so I'm gonna end it here.
ポスト #22 · 2014-05-26 08:53:05pmにポスト 10年前
Quote
at least try to make it look professional. The worst part of it is that, despite the help and recommendations, OP continues to ignore what people are suggesting.
And the point is that the OP doesn't want it to look professional. 370K is only doing this theme because he wants to it and doesn't care about how professional it looks, he doesn't care about the quality, he just wants to do this just because he feel like he can. That is it.
If he wants to make something more professional then he will, but if he doesn't want to do something professional then he won't do it.
He has the right to accept or ignore the suggestions. So please leave him alone and let him do his thing.
ポスト #23 · 2014-05-26 08:56:20pmにポスト 10年前
DDR Addict | |
---|---|
Member | |
1,464 ポスト | |
Reg. 2009-09-23 | |
"Let's Do the Rain Dance" |
If he really didn't care about making it look professional, then he wouldn't have made all these posts in a public forum letting people know it. Also, it really bothers me how you're putting words in his mouth. Bash the people who were just saying to "get better stuff", sure, but your defending him has seemingly made him ignore the constructive criticism as well, and that really makes me mad since I spent a whole morning working on my analysis of what to improve. Just...please stop? This can be a good thing. I really want for him to grow as a member. But if we don't let him be receptive to criticism, that won't happen.
ポスト #24 · 2014-05-26 09:27:49pmにポスト 10年前
bmhedgehog | |
---|---|
Banned+ | |
3,136 ポスト | |
Not Set | |
Reg. 2008-07-13 | |
"BANNED" |
I'm sorry if you all feel that I'm putting words into his mouth as it is not my intention. Again as I said before he has the right to accept or ignore the suggestions or constructive criticism, I'm not forcing him to do that. The problem I'm seeing is that no one is reading his posts.
Ok at this point he's willing to try, but I still think he is very uncomfortable with this idea. However I could be or did over looked into this. So I'm sorry.
Ok so maybe he isn't uncomfortable with the idea as he did use Photoshop before. However his point here is that he wants to make it "old-fashioned". What better way to make/do something "old-fashioned" is to do it in MSPaint.
To me at this point is an ultimatum. He's getting tired of the High Quality Graphics suggestion.
Well we all know what happened at this point. I had to chime in cause no one could leave him alone.
Well it looks like people won't be enjoying it because the suggestions/constructive criticism is being ignored by his choice alone.
Quote: 370K
FYI... This game is supposed to look CREATIVE, it's not like it's a real arcade simulator! The only way I make my graphics is with MS Paint. It doesn't matter what program you use to make graphics, it's how you enjoy using it.
Quote: 370k
Umm, that's not very necessary but I'll give it a shot. Thank you
Ok at this point he's willing to try, but I still think he is very uncomfortable with this idea. However I could be or did over looked into this. So I'm sorry.
Quote: 370K
O.O
Dear.....
This theme is from 2 years ago (as I posted first thing), and if I'm continuing to work on it, then I have to make it "old-fashioned." Or else the theme's going to look too recent, and that will not look fitting to an OLD theme.
Although I have used Photoshop to take care of some graphics in the game, such as these ripped graphics
Dear.....
This theme is from 2 years ago (as I posted first thing), and if I'm continuing to work on it, then I have to make it "old-fashioned." Or else the theme's going to look too recent, and that will not look fitting to an OLD theme.
Although I have used Photoshop to take care of some graphics in the game, such as these ripped graphics
Ok so maybe he isn't uncomfortable with the idea as he did use Photoshop before. However his point here is that he wants to make it "old-fashioned". What better way to make/do something "old-fashioned" is to do it in MSPaint.
Quote: 370k
UNLESS, when I release the build, maybe you can try to make an "improved" version of my theme!
To me at this point is an ultimatum. He's getting tired of the High Quality Graphics suggestion.
Quote: 370K
He's right! If I'm going to follow my way of doing things, then I'm doing it! If you don't like that, then...
Well we all know what happened at this point. I had to chime in cause no one could leave him alone.
Quote: 370k
It doesn't matter what program you use to make graphics, it's how you enjoy using it.
Well it looks like people won't be enjoying it because the suggestions/constructive criticism is being ignored by his choice alone.
ポスト #25 · 2014-05-26 09:52:51pmにポスト 10年前
BemaniHyper | |
---|---|
Member+ | |
1,434 ポスト | |
Reg. 2013-09-13 | |
Quote: DDR Addict
Bash the people who were just saying to "get better stuff", sure, but your defending him has seemingly made him ignore the constructive criticism as well, and that really makes me mad since I spent a whole morning working on my analysis of what to improve.
I understand you meant well, and I at least hope 370K appreciates that, but he has said before that he wants to do it the way he's doing it. You put all of this effort into something (hopefully) knowing that he wouldn't want to use it.Quote: DDR Addict
But if we don't let him be receptive to criticism, that won't happen.
It's not that we're not letting him be receptive to criticism, it's just that we're all trying to change what he wanted to create in the first place.Quote: 370K
FYI... This game is supposed to look CREATIVE, it's not like it's a real arcade simulator! The only way I make my graphics is with MS Paint. It doesn't matter what program you use to make graphics, it's how you enjoy using it.
-370K
I feel this is the most important thing he has said. He isn't looking for us to try to change his theme, or even suggest things. He wants to enjoy what he's doing, and if you guys don't want to let him do that, that's fine.-370K
(P.S. 370K, if anything I'm saying is wrong, feel free to correct me. I don't mean to put words in your mouth if I am.)
ポスト #26 · 2014-05-26 10:02:16pmにポスト 10年前
Sigrev2 | |
---|---|
Member+ | |
4,182 ポスト | |
Reg. 2009-10-17 | |
"suffering from success" |
Quote: PinkiePieGamer
Quote: DDR Addict
But if we don't let him be receptive to criticism, that won't happen.
It's not that we're not letting him be receptive to criticism, it's just that we're all trying to change what he wanted to create in the first place.ポスト #27 · 2014-05-26 10:07:36pmにポスト 10年前
BemaniHyper | |
---|---|
Member+ | |
1,434 ポスト | |
Reg. 2013-09-13 | |
Quote: AnonyWolf
And like I said in my original post, if OP doesn't want to change things to make it appealing for players (considering how he made an entire thread about it, I'm willing to bet OP had intentions on other people playing it), then why bother? It's just a waste of time and energy.
I agree with that completely. Why post it publicly if you're going to design the graphics with MSPaint?
ポスト #28 · 2014-05-26 11:33:31pmにポスト 10年前
370K | |
---|---|
Banned | |
70 ポスト | |
Reg. 2013-12-21 | |
"Single, in a HyperNOVA..." |
Dedicated for the people involved in this fiasco...
-370K
-370K
ポスト #29 · 2014-05-27 12:03:55amにポスト 10年前
Th3_Ov3rHell_3XoduZ | |
---|---|
Member | |
313 ポスト | |
Reg. 2012-09-13 | |
"ITG, The Best Dance Machine!" |
The last reply above mine, is necessary?
ポスト #30 · 2014-05-27 12:06:24amにポスト 10年前
370K | |
---|---|
Banned | |
70 ポスト | |
Reg. 2013-12-21 | |
"Single, in a HyperNOVA..." |
Not really haha
I'm just pointing out that this thread is a trainwreck! Like DDRMAX4...
-370K
I'm just pointing out that this thread is a trainwreck! Like DDRMAX4...
-370K
ポスト #31 · 2014-05-27 12:09:46amにポスト 10年前
CuzcoBlocko | |
---|---|
Member | |
2,947 ポスト | |
Reg. 2013-10-26 | |
"[Art by LilyBreez]" |
Quote: 370K
Not really haha
I'm just pointing out that this thread is a trainwreck! Like DDRMAX4...
-370K
I'm just pointing out that this thread is a trainwreck! Like DDRMAX4...
-370K
Please remind me why I made that project in the first place again...
ポスト #32 · 2014-05-27 12:32:19amにポスト 10年前
bmhedgehog | |
---|---|
Banned+ | |
3,136 ポスト | |
Not Set | |
Reg. 2008-07-13 | |
"BANNED" |
Quote: 370K
Dedicated for the people involved in this fiasco...
-370K
-370K
AWE DUDE I LOOK CUTE! AWESOME! Can I please have?
ポスト #33 · 2014-05-27 12:33:51amにポスト 10年前
370K | |
---|---|
Banned | |
70 ポスト | |
Reg. 2013-12-21 | |
"Single, in a HyperNOVA..." |
Quote: bmhedgehog
Quote: 370K
Dedicated for the people involved in this fiasco...
-370K
-370K
AWE DUDE I LOOK CUTE! AWESOME! Can I please have?
Of course you may!
-370K
ポスト #34 · 2014-05-27 12:47:44amにポスト 10年前
bmhedgehog | |
---|---|
Banned+ | |
3,136 ポスト | |
Not Set | |
Reg. 2008-07-13 | |
"BANNED" |
Many thank yous all around
ポスト #35 · 2014-05-27 09:42:46pmにポスト 10年前
370K | |
---|---|
Banned | |
70 ポスト | |
Reg. 2013-12-21 | |
"Single, in a HyperNOVA..." |
UPDATE IN PROGRESS
Any official DDR simfile that's been "370K"d has gained its original difficulties.
EX) Warning (or GYOUNG GO) (DDR) (DDR) (DDR) (370K)
*BEGINNER coming soon...
NOTE: Full difficulties are only exclusive to the simulator, they will not be shared before release.
New BEGINNER has been added to SHOCK
Freeze (DDR X2) has been removed from the songlist.
More updates to come! Official songlist will be posted soon!
-370K
Any official DDR simfile that's been "370K"d has gained its original difficulties.
EX) Warning (or GYOUNG GO) (DDR) (DDR) (DDR) (370K)
*BEGINNER coming soon...
NOTE: Full difficulties are only exclusive to the simulator, they will not be shared before release.
New BEGINNER has been added to SHOCK
Freeze (DDR X2) has been removed from the songlist.
More updates to come! Official songlist will be posted soon!
-370K
ポスト #36 · 2014-06-08 05:51:47pmにポスト 10年前
patorikku91 | |
---|---|
Member | |
72 ポスト | |
Reg. 2012-11-24 | |
"The original ziv duck" |
But if that's the case, then only like one or two people will download it. The fact of the matter is, SM 3.9 has pretty much all but lost that hype factor it once had... 3 years ago. Nowadays, the only themes used are usually 1. The Groove 2.4 theme for 3.95, 2. Simply Love, and 3. GrooveNights. The effort is definitely there but in all honesty, if you want people to download it, enjoy it, and just overall love it, then go with all of the points DDR Addict made. He was giving constructive criticism in hopes to see this released. MSPaint is NOT a good workaround for art. Go with GIMP or if you know someone with it, PaintTool SAI for art. For editing purposes, Photoshop. Now I know you're probably not going to listen to me because you obviously aren't really listening to anyone except for the people that don't have constructive criticism, but... Dude, listen to the people that have constructive crit. It helps you loads. Trust me.
ポスト #37 · 2014-06-08 06:20:12pmにポスト 10年前
chewi | |
---|---|
Member+ | |
8,539 ポスト | |
Not Set | |
Reg. 2008-02-24 | |
Quote: 370K
He's right! If I'm going to follow my way of doing things, then I'm doing it! If you don't like that, then...
-370K
-370K
ポスト #38 · 2014-06-08 08:38:03pmにポスト 10年前
If you post something you're working on in a public forum, people will give you feedback whether you want it or not. You're not being forced to make any changes, but if you're not even going to at least listen to feedback, why did you bother posting it here in the first place?
ポスト #39 · 2014-06-08 09:58:47pmにポスト 10年前
RGTM | |
---|---|
Moderator+ | |
7,223 ポスト | |
Reg. 2007-07-19 | |
"BBCode Not Allowed" |
I don't want to be -that- guy, but I guess I have no choice. I think it's rather a bit too easy to draw Kirby on paint, since he is really just a circle, containing dotted eyes, a great big smile, some small arms and legs, presto. Credit to WinDEU for reminding me of this.
If you really want to impress me, use something else other than MS Paint, and venture away from 3.9. I mean, there are some impressive drawings and paintings done with MS Paint, don't get me wrong, but this is way too mediocre for my tastes, as with a lot of others. Seriously, get GIMP or Ps.
If you really want to impress me, use something else other than MS Paint, and venture away from 3.9. I mean, there are some impressive drawings and paintings done with MS Paint, don't get me wrong, but this is way too mediocre for my tastes, as with a lot of others. Seriously, get GIMP or Ps.
ポスト #40 · 2014-06-08 10:41:09pmにポスト 10年前
Arrows&Beats | |
---|---|
Banned | |
2,594 ポスト | |
Reg. 2011-08-13 | |
"Witch hunt victim." |
Who said he wanted to impress you? Stop telling him what to do.