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Post #1 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:02:42am 7.7 years ago

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Post any examples you can find of songs with more than one version of its chart. I'll try and come up with the basic ones.

Pretty much everything from ULTRAMIX DLC -> Festival got new charts.
Also doubles charts from the club ver songs in EXTREME (5.1.1., be in my paradise, R3, etc)
Kind Lady had some freezes removed in MAX2 iirc
Horatio Challenge had shock arrows removed in the X AC release
Tsugaru Standard obviously
Max (period) has two different Challenge charts

Feel free to post any others you may think of.

Post #2 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:08:32am 7.7 years ago

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Adding one bit to Kind Lady. That song also had two different Challenge chart sets (Universe 3 and DDR 2014)
Starmine (I think on all difficulties).
MEMORIES and Rescue Me have the same single charts but different double charts (does that count)?
CRAZY♥LOVE S-Heavy (There's a PS2 version and a Wii version; AC uses Wii)
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Post #3 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:18:01am 7.7 years ago

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Post #4 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:19:07am 7.7 years ago

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Post #5 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:25:59am 7.7 years ago

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I believe SABER WING's Challenge charts were modified very slightly between CS and AC releases.
Compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkreglwfKjM with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmVU5U5L1e8
escape's S-Heavy chart was slightly modified to fix a final freeze arrow.
Can't forget all three versions of London EVOLVED and their Challenge charts.
I believe one of the New York EVOLVED's had a change in Heavy chart, the number of Freezes was altered or something from the PS3 to the AC version.
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Post #6 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:26:50am 7.7 years ago

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PARANOiA ETERNAL Standard and Heavy 5thMIX>MAX2

2ndMIX Step Battle songs got new charts in 3rdMIX too.

Do quantizations count? If so then bag, Healing-D-Vision and CALICO CAT ROCK have quantization changes in DDR X, and I'll Make Love To You in SN2. I think DEAD END had some as well, but idk when.

Post #7 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:28:43am 7.7 years ago

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Oh yeah, forgot about the demo songs from 5thMIX -> MAX (NORI NORI NORI, Centre of the Heart, and I think one more)

Post #8 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:28:47am 7.7 years ago

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I think DEAD END had some as well, but idk when.
https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/thread?threadid=6869&page=3#p321427
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And there's way more charts than that if you count quantization issues. One you'd probably miss is MAXX UNLIMITED S-Standard
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Post #9 · Posted at 2016-08-07 04:48:20pm 7.7 years ago

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Wait, where did Maxx UnlimitedStandard have a quantization change?

Post #10 · Posted at 2016-08-07 05:48:32pm 7.7 years ago

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INFINITE PRAYER S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival, was later used as a challenge chart in DDR Extreme 2/Dancing Stage Max)
SANA MOLLETE NE ENTE -B.L.T. STYLE- S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
BALLAD FOR YOU S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival), all double charts (Ultramix -> Arcade)
KEEP ON MOVIN' ~DMX MIX~ S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival, was later used a challenge chart in DDR Extreme 2/Dancing Stage Max), all double charts (Ultramix -> Arcade)
PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME ~SATURDAY NIGHT MIX~ S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival), all double charts (Ultramix -> Arcade)
Quickening S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival, was later used as a challenge chart in DDR Extreme 2/Dancing Stage Max), D-Light, D-Standard, D-Heavy (Ultramix -> Arcade), S-Beginner (FESTIVAL -> Extreme 2)
INSERTiON (Machine Gun Kelly Mix) S-Light (Ultramix -> FESTIVAL), all double charts (Ultramix -> Arcade)
MGS2 mission R S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
In my eyes S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
Mind Parasite S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
FIRE DUB S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
SOMETHING WONDERFUL S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
OUTER LIMITS all charts (Ultramix -> Festival)
BATTLE BREAKS S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
NEMESIS all charts (Ultramix -> Festival)
BABY BABY GIMME YOUR LOVE 2002 S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
ANALYZE S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
What is Love? S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
Matsuri (J-SUMMER MIX) all charts (Ultramix -> Festival), S-Beginner, S-Heavy, all double charts (Ultramix -> Arcade)
MEANING OF LIFE S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
GET IT ALL S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
BAILA! BAILA! S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival), D-Light and D-Heavy (Festival -> Arcade)
INFINITE PRAYER -floating flock style- S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
MAD BLAST S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival)
GOREGOUS 2012 S-Standard and S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival), all charts (Ultramix -> Arcade)

Post #11 · Posted at 2016-08-07 06:28:14pm 7.7 years ago

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B4U (B4 ZA BEAT MIX) has two different sets of Beginner-Heavy charts; the ones used in Euromix 2(?) and UNIVERSE are totally different. Also, UNIVERSE retains the Challenge charts and Euromix 2 does not.

Post #12 · Posted at 2016-08-07 08:05:20pm 7.7 years ago

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Wait, where did Maxx UnlimitedStandard have a quantization change?
280 BPM section with the freezes. A couple of them were 1/8 early, and were put to the next quarter note on DDR X.
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Post #13 · Posted at 2016-08-07 08:17:24pm 7.7 years ago

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INFINITE PRAYER S-Heavy (Ultramix -> Festival, was later used as a challenge chart in DDR Extreme 2/Dancing Stage Max)

I might be wrong on this, but, didn't have to make a whole different S-Heavy chart as a result of DDR Festival's S-Heavy chart being used as Extreme 2's Challenge chart? And also, iirc, they also made a S-Beginner chart in Extreme 2 for Infinite Prayer.
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Post #14 · Posted at 2016-08-08 12:11:20am 7.7 years ago

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Any charts that used 12ths/24ths/48ths before those note quantizations were invented were adjusted to use them.

I don't know all of them, but here's a few I do know of:
MAX 300 (last 12 steps of the chart)
BURNING HEAT (all of it)
Bag (Challenge is Heavy but with the deliberately broken note timings)
Healing-D-Vision (all of it)

Post #15 · Posted at 2016-08-08 05:11:14am 7.7 years ago

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I can think of gentle stress' Heavy chart in US MAX.

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Oh yeah, forgot about the demo songs from 5thMIX -> MAX (NORI NORI NORI, Centre of the Heart, and I think one more)
Those are the only licensed songs that were available in 5th CS. There were some KO songs too, but they had full charts instead of having only one.
http://i.imgur.com/4x5oEAf.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/StRZrv7.png

Post #16 · Posted at 2016-08-08 06:46:41am 7.7 years ago

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A couple of other DDR X quantization fixes that come to mind (that aren't obvious 12th/24th fixes)

- D2R D-Heavy had a jump toward the end that used to be on a 16th beat (late). It was later fixed to the 8th beat right before it.
- Pluto Relinquish's Heavy and Challenge charts used to have 16th notes at 400 beats per minute (even on DDR X CS). The 16ths were later changed to quarters and eighths.
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Post #17 · Posted at 2016-08-08 08:36:24am 7.7 years ago

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Majority of Paranoia Eternal changed. I believe only Single Light was unchanged.

Gentle stress (AMD Sexual mix)/(Sensual mix) - the piano run is a sixteenth cluster run in DDRMAX USA; everywhere else is a triplet run

Very slight changes in Get Up'n Move, Stomp to my beat, Boys and Xepher Heavy
-I believe Get Up'n Move's percussion had sixteenths at some point before being replaced with triplets.
-Stomp to my beat is missing a note in the first part in DDRMAX USA
-Boys, at the triplet part, (I'm just a girl who's looking for some fun) has an extra down arrow around that part; it's missing in DDR 4th Mix and as such, is more sync.
-Xepher had a slight change in timing in DDR X2, after the freeze tap parts when the steps go triplet with the music, in the second set of triplets after the long stream, it used to be two eighths in SN2 before it was changed to triplets to match the music precisely.
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Post #19 · Posted at 2016-08-10 01:28:48pm 7.6 years ago

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And if memory serves me right, Upside DownLight in DDR 3rd Mix (3-footer) and DDR 3rd Mix Asian version (1-footer)
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Post #20 · Posted at 2016-09-21 10:54:54pm 7.5 years ago

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Please pardon my little-over-a-month bump.

Anyone recall the transition from the DDR X2 location test to the official game? Well, POSSESSION and Second Heaven received new Heavy charts, and their respective Heavy from the location test were put in the Challenge slots.

But there was at least one that got replaced and never made it back, probably for good reason. Yes, I'm talking about Dazzlin' Darlin! I just happened to run into a video of the location test chart yesterday by complete chance.

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