ITT: We Talk About The State Of Relevancy DDR Has Today Without Being Nobs

Rules;
1) Saying "DDR is dead" or "DDR is not dead" is for the chat. Have an actual discussion rather than stupid nonsense in this thread.
2) I encourage you to have a BALANCED VIEWPOINT.
3) Words to not describe people who fall on the other side of the fence: "stupid," "idiot," "moron," "fuckwit," etc.
4) While you are to have a balanced viewpoint, please have an 'overall statement' and say whether, through what you've said earlier in the post, DDR is either dead or not dead. I'll keep a tally going.
5) "At least in my eyes", "in my opinion", and other such phrases are stupid ways to avoid backlash for what you say. Be prepared to back up what you say in a logical way rather than hiding behind a shield.
6) Shitposters don't get a vote.
7) Please don't make this thread a load of garbage.

IS DDR DEAD?
DEAD: 5
NOT DEAD: 4

Here's my take on it.

DEAD:
- The rise of Just Dance and Dance Central have mostly killed the casual gamer interest in the game.
- The latest mix of DDR is full of way too many crossovers. Original content is dwindling.
- It's not even the most popular BEMANI game anymore.
- There are only a few arcades where you will be able to play DDR A outside of Asia, and all of them will be in North America. This means that Europe and South America won't be able to play it at all.

NOT DEAD:
- DDR isn't LITERALLY dead. The series IS still going after 18 years.
- The quality of charts nowadays are accepted to be generally good, despite song selection.
- The newest game has been treated as a 'reboot' of sorts, showing that KONAMI is maybe trying to inject some life back into the game.

OVERALL: DDR is mostly dead. Even in the countries it's even available in, games like jubeat and even IIDX have surpassed DDR in popularity. The lack of original content for the newest mix makes me believe that KONAMI are not really all that bothered about the game anymore, and who can blame them? My verdict is DEAD.

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lock this
and also, ddr is not dead. DDR is going downhill since X, but it's still not dead. The steps are fine and the song selection is kind of good, and also the series is still going, so it's NOT dead. Sadly it's not the most popular BEMANI game anymore.

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I fucking hate you.

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Anyway, I personally think DDR is not dead, and as for the "flashy hinabita" phase, it's kinda like when you suddenly get interested in this cheesy band of your era, it'll go away eventually. Yes, the past three releases haven't been all that exciting, but there WILL be good gems to play through the "meh" songs from time to time.

DEAD: 1
NOT DEAD: 2

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I'll give the new DDR about 6-12 months before the maintenance for them stops happening, or they switch out the cab for a Harley Davidson bike ride experience cab.

This little life support will end after that.

(Vote - Dead)

Also:

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Literally speaking, DDR is not dead; it is still doing well enough in Japan to receive new content, and will even reappear in the United States in the coming months. This could very well mean a resurge in popularity in the West, even among the casual crowd.

In addition, from my experiences with talking with people, DDR is still in the brains of many people. I was talking to my physician about using DDR as an exercise material, and she instantly recognized it. Furthermore, quite a few of my friends and classmates to whom I mentioned DDR to still remember it, meaning that there is a chance of the series regaining popularity.

DEAD: 2
NOT DEAD: 2 (?)

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DDR is Dead. It dies in the comics, anyways.

Although the game in itself isn't dead, and still gets updates and whatnot, consumer interest is practically non-existent. How easy is it to find a dedicated fan of DDR outside of forums like these, or random encounters in the arcade? As an experienced player in the game, how many people that witness you playing mention how good you are, how they could never be on the same level as you, and deem the difficulty of the game as "impossible", rather than recognize the song, recommend similar songs, and talk about their efforts to one day be on that same level of play? Meanwhile, it's pretty easy to find fellow players of Call of Duty that are at Prestige level, or dedicated tournament level Super Smash Bros. players.

DDR is more niche than niche itself. I've met tons of people that enjoy some sort of niche material that has since become more mainstream, but not a single DDR player that can at the very least play X-Scale 9-footers and get a 90% score, and name at least 10 recognized songs off the bat. To find one outside of the internet or the arcade is almost like finding a shiny Pokemon. I have been able to get people into the game though, but nothing beyond that.

DEAD: 3
NOT DEAD: 2

DDR is dead and it died in 2010
Goodnight, sweet prince.

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I like this attempt to make the whole "ddr is dead" joke a serious topic. Nice.

For me, DDR isn't dead. If Konami is deciding to bring it to the United States, then that means there's some kind of fanbase who want it. Plus, the continued support of things like Stepmania means that people still enjoy playing it. While in recent years it's been overshadowed by Just Dance and Dance Central and any other game like that, all you need to do is look at the hype that came about here when DDR A was announced to show that there is still a fanbase. I think we had, like, 60 people viewing the DDR A thread at once when it came about?

DEAD: ?
NOT DEAD: ?
i don't even know what's going on with this counter anymore

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counter will be on OP from now on, do not add it on yourself please

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DDR is obviously technically not dead since it's still going, but it hasn't been very interesting for a long time. I felt invested again during DDR 2014s RDi phase which I though was excellent, but that was a rare moment. Not enough to redeem the series as a whole. They would have to make it that interesting much more frequently. The general song list has been very bland since X onward, and DDR As songlist so far is certainly not promising at all.

I vote dead

In my opinion, DDR isn't dead. Sure, it's not the most popular of BEMANI games (at least in Asia where IIDX, SDVX, and Reflec seem to be taking the cake), but it is the only BEMANI game most of the mainstream public here knows about, even if they just know the title of the game. The fact that it's been going since the late '90's and the fact that DDR A is coming outside of Japan and Korea for the first time since 2010ish is enough to say that DDR is alive. And, through my eyes, it doesn't matter that the new content in recent DDR games includes some "lame" songs and "mediocre" charts. After all, everything does have its flaws, right?

In short, I'm just grateful that new DDR games are still coming out, even if it had been only overseas for the past few years until now. That's enough to say that DDR is "alive" to me.

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Please don't shitpost. This is a genuine thread to collect the opinions as to if DDR is dead or not. And the first thing to do is NOT trying to derail the thread into the new "The moderators abuse their power, we must rise against them!". It's just not gonna work, and it makes you sorta come across as crass. :/

Guess I Better Elaborate before people continue whining in the chat about me not taking a thread made off a joke seriously.
[and this post is gonna go everywhere so don't mind me]
DDR has not been properly active in the US, really, since the demise of the CS titles. I know that DDR II came out in in 2011, but I pinpoint the death back in 2010. I could even make the argument that it died back in 2009. Really, the US and most of the world stopped giving two shits about the series back around X, maybe even SN2. But it never really reflected in the content (even though I think SN2 was hogwash) until around 2009/2010.
Now, while the AC series is still ongoing in small specific spots on the earth, the new games are not providing much new and interesting and engaging content. It's been on a creative lull for a good few years now, and that is taking the likes of RDi into consideration. Say all you want about RDi, never forgot how the original big bad boss of the thing was a song we had access to on JP CS for over a decade at that point.
It's a marketing deadzone. It appeals to a small niche audience and trying to keep it afloat in a country (or in countries) that don't give a fuck about it anymore won't be beneficial to anyone. All that will happen is Konami and arcades losing money. This whole BRING DDR BACK TO THE US thing both fans and D&Bs seems to think is a good idea is probably the opposite. No one cares, and the ones that do aren't impactful enough of maintain a stasis of revenue and attention. And really, who wants to spend several grand on a series that hasn't really done anything new or exciting in years on top of it all?
DDR is dead, and the people who think it's still alive are simply being ignorant. I get you want to think it's still alive, but maybe once you take your nostalgia goggles off, you'll realize that things are what they seem. Sorry to break it to ya.
DDR is dead.

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Quality post. Really makes you seem different and not at all childish, no way no how.

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