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Post #1 · Posted at 2015-08-07 10:26:49pm 8.6 years ago

Offline KittyBox
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I've been looking into Beatmania for a while now, and I've decided it'd be easiest for me to start out with 5Key beatmania. Luckily, the US release happens to have a 5Keys mode, but getting it with a controller for a price that I can afford has been hell so far, so that makes me have to ask:
Are any of the 5Key Beatmania's for PS1 any good? And at that rate, is the original controller any good either?

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5thMIX, GOTTAMIX2, and 6th+CORE REMIX are the best CS releases IMO.

Post #4 · Posted at 2015-08-07 11:11:51pm 8.6 years ago

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Quote: KittyBox
I've been looking into Beatmania for a while now, and I've decided it'd be easiest for me to start out with 5Key beatmania. Luckily, the US release happens to have a 5Keys mode, but getting it with a controller for a price that I can afford has been hell so far, so that makes me have to ask:
Are any of the 5Key Beatmania's for PS1 any good? And at that rate, is the original controller any good either?

The official 5-key controller isn't anywhere near good enough to play the game seriously. It isn't microswitched, and forces you to scratch on the right-hand side. If you're going to try and get into the game without needing to upgrade the controller as soon as you start to get good, then your choices are, in order of quality :

* A very reputable microswitched fan-made controller with a PS2 connection
* A official Japanese "ASC" controller (the very large ones)
* The official American controller
* The official Japanese controller

As expensive as it sounds, I think the American controller is probably the best "quality for money" investment. The American and Japanese controllers aren't microswitched, so you'll need to open either of them up and literally stuff the keys full of cardboard. They're both very nice controllers once this is done, but in my opinion, the US controller feels a little better than the Japanese one, since they were able to learn one or two design lessons by the time it came out.

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The 5-Key games are mostly relics of the past, and although I loved them at the time, it's got to be hard going back to them, having played more modern music games. They all have very small song lists, and the charts are very, very simple. Most of them either don't have speed mods, and force the scratch lane onto the right hand side of the screen (they essentially force you to play the 'Player 2' side of a IIDX machine.

The first 5 numbered games (1st Mix - 5th Mix) are hugely important games, but not worth the price you'd pay for them, and most of the notable songs are in the 'IIDX 3rd Style' PS2 game, and most of the weird fun songs are in Beatmania Best Hits.

Beatmania 5th Mix is worth a mention, because it includes a lot of licensed songs that really stand out amongst the usual 5-key stuff. The Konami Original stuff isn't hugely memorable though, and the later games tend to all have more interesting licenses.

Beatmania Best Hits is a compilations of the first five games. It has all the weird old songs that people remember fondly. Buy it!

Beatmania 6th Mix is the last in the series, and makes some HUGE leaps towards resembling a modern music game. It's 5-keys, but plays like a IIDX game, and is the only game that adds a lot of features you might take for granted (like a scrollable song list). Buy it!

Gottamix and Gottamix 2 are console-exclusive games. The licensed songs are pretty fun. Don't get either unless you have Beatmania (the first one), Best Hits or Beatmania 6th, it needs one of these games to boot.

Club Mix is a fanservice game that lots of people adored at the time. It's a really eclectic soundtrack, and I'm not sure it'll hold up too well today. It also needs one of the 'key games' to boot.

There are also 2 games which just feature a single artist. Both of them are just curiosities.

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I'd personally try and get the American PS2 game with the controller. Failing that, a controller and a Japanese copy of 'IIDX 3rd Style' is probably the best place to start. That'll include most of the popular 5-key songs (but none of the really weird ones, unfortunately), it has a nice big songlist, and it lets you try to play through the IIDX series chronologically (definately don't play through the 5-key series chronologically, though, because by the time you can pass the harder songs in beatmania 2nd Mix, almost all of the songs in the rest of the series will seem too easy to be any fun).


TLDR
If you really want to play 5-Key, then still try and get a IIDX controller, and a copy of Beatmania Best Hits. After that, move onto Beatmania 6th Mix if you want more challenge, or Club Mix / Gottamix if you want to play more simplistic songs, and vary up the music a little bit.
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