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Sorry. This is cancelled. If you want to start a new Max4, feel free to do so. Here lies the ideas I had in case someone wants to pick them up later.





It might happen... I don't know.

For those of you that don't know, I wanted to try my hand at making a DDRMAX4, but... The result was so bad it fails words.

However, this time, I'm going to collect ideas so that this gives off a Max-EXTREME feel while being unique.

Ideas so far;

*BGVideos will be in HD (http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/viewthread.php?threadid=6218&page=1)

*There will be 201 songs, however, they will be in tiers. Here's the explanation.

You start with 24 songs in Tier #1. Once you have played 24 stages (you don't have to play all of the songs), a 25th will appear, considerably harder than the rest. When this song is beat (on any difficulty), Tier #2 will be unlocked. It'll repeat until the 200th song is unlocked.

*That 201st song will be the ultimate stage. It'll be unlocked after 573 stages are played. But the twist here... All of the others songs will be 1 minute and 30 seconds long to 2 minutes and 30 seconds long. This one will be 4-5 minutes long. That's right.

*This project plans to import songs from ZIV Simfile Shuffle 2014 and Simfile Tournament of Immortals 5, but only with permission.

*If you want to suggest a song or idea, please don't hesitate.

Okay, that's the rough draft I have. I may get started on this sometime this fall, or someone else will do it before me.

Edit: It appears someone is also making a Max4.



...but...the website you can get this on doesn't exist anymore.

"This one will be 4-5 minutes." MAX Forever vibes.
Anyway, I'll pay attention to this project. I'll even give you free reign to use my Lover's High file.

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it sounds like you're going to end up doing a LOT of grinding before you get anything at all new.

most DDR games have you unlocking around the same amount of songs in around the same amount of time (maybe longer), but they don't hold them back until you finish a requirement. they give them to you one at a time, so you feel like you're accomplishing something.

an example (albeit an extreme one) of this is DJMax Portable 3. a good game, solid songlist, BUT you're stuck playing the same ~18 songs until you reach around Lv10, where you get one new song. maybe. it gives a random prize for each level-up, and song prizes become available every 10 levels. so you aren't even guaranteed the song. Level 10 doesn't seem like much, but it takes a good 30-40 plays to get to, which is a lot of plays for just 18 songs.

my point being, try to give the player more things incrementally rather than pushing through like levels. it'd probably keep players' attention/motivation for much longer.

What I'm planning to do here is to allow the player to play all 200 songs (except that one pentultimate one) in a row if they can get it just right. Once you finish 25 songs (it could be all of them, or you could play the same one over and over 25 times), a new set of 25 songs are given to you.

I CAN, however, tone it down to 15 points to unlock.

Here is my rough song list;

20 Konami originals

2 new PARANOiAs

1 new TRIP MACHINE

20 new Dancemania Licenses

20 american licenses

Max;

BYE BYE BABY BALLOON

FIREFLY

Ghosts

I'M IN THE MOOD FOR DANCING

Look To The Sky

true... radio edit

Max2;

D2R

ever snow

FANTASY

i feel...

MORE THAN I NEEDED TO KNOW

NOTHING GONNA STOP (dancemania mix)

ZIV Shuffle Round 1;

Electro Masters - Fast Foot (SupremeX)

Get On The Floor - good-cool (xRGTMx)

New York Fantasy - Macho Robot (Spork!)

Velvet Sentiment - seiya-murai (brunobg24)

ZIV Shuffle Round 2;

ちゅるりちゅるりら - でんぱ組.inc (Loodee) (That background is...really interesting.)

CLASH - Caravan Palance (Gameoson)

DANCE ALL NIGHT - Sota Fujimori (GariK+)

オタサー☆レボリューション - ARM(IOSYS) feat. miko & キム (CuzcoBlocko)

ZIV Shuffle Round 3;

Cytokinesis - Hommarju (Gameoson)

オオエドランヴ - ギガP feat. れをる & nqrse (vincentw)

いじわるなハロー - Perfume (MRace2010)

Z - Eptic & MUST DIE! (xRGTMx)

I will need to get permission for all of the ZIV Shuffle stepcharts, however (except for mine, obviously).

It's kind of hard to get songs for round 3 of ZIv because, in my opinion, 8 of them sound the same (fast-paced hardcore electronic music).

For the record, "penultimate" means the second-to-last. Not sure if you misused it or if I'm just really confused here. Eh whatever.

Also if you want, it'd maybe be cool to also use songs from the upcoming SC if you don't want to pick songs from round 3.

This looks interesting... you have my permission to use my Velvet Sentiment simfile

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Not gonna lie, Cuzco, you should have asked me if you could use my files for your project. I would have said yes, by the way, but make sure you ask. D:

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It's tentative, I'd presume.

edit: fuck you astro
But, yeah. Cuzco isn't just taking files from other people. He's stated that he plans to seek permission to use the files. He's stated this in both of his posts.

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I would have only used the songs if I DID get the OK. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother importing them. I don't want to make the same mistakes I did in 2012 (during the dark age I was a fan of this...show), nor do I want to pull a "The Greatest Of Stepmania" (Sorry, Daniel_BMS...).

Is there any way to locate "Konami Originals" (songs similar to PARANOiA, Healing Vision, so on) that haven't been officially stepped before?

Go ahead and use オオエドランヴ. To be honest, I'm honoured to have my files featured on anyone's pack, so thank you for that!

Looks promising. I mean, 200 songs, whoa. Quite a tall order, I must say. Hoping it'll be great!

Don't worry, if anything, it'll be better than my attempt at it back in 2012 when I was into this (click at your own risk).

I'd say this movie (which is to signify the reason I began making the DDR visuals) is the closest it would come to being unusual.



(Picture updated; November 10th, 2015)

Personally, I like how I made this movie. It's a very unique combination, gives the movie a sense that it's actually real and not a hallucination (it could be set in the year 2060), and I think it's quite cute. Flaky and Toothy are also my favorite HTF characters. Destiny was calling me to make this here.

Nonetheless, I'd like to use original characters (even though I prefer Toothy and Flaky), but after a run in with a specific person some of you have seen, that's out of my reach for now until I have new ideas, so... If you find yourself getting distracted by this movie purely because of the characters, say to yourself the following words; "At least it's not Hitler." (I'm so sorry again, Daniel_BMS)

Also, for those wondering, yes, I will get rid of that face on the jukebox in the center if that raises enough complaints.


Here's how I think it'll go.

I will assemble 70% of the songlist, make graphics for every song (except ones already made in ZIV Shuffle 2014, I'm also taking background/banner requests for a specific song), the theme graphics, and BGscripts (and BGmovies), another person will code the theme, and there will be some participants to help locate songs (or remixed versions like D2R from Nonstop Megamix) made by Konami Original Song artists like Naoki and 2MB that haven't already appeared in DDR.

Oh
MY STEPS COULD GET IN A PACK YUS

Oh lol, feel free to use this chart has much as you want. I even give you the possibility of changing something here and there in the various difficulties. You know, this chart needs some polishing.

And also you can make a Challenge chart if you want.

I seriously need to get fully back in Ziv someway. Maybe following this pack can help. I wonder what you'll manage to do with this

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That DDRMAX4 Alpha you see posted there is actually mine. I haven't worked on it in forever because I'm making a... *clears throat*... better DDR game. I was actually wanting to upload that alpha to my new site but I haven't gotten to it.

I don't have much but if you want I can send you the file. PM me if you'd like it.

In the meantime, i might as well terminate that YouTube account because Marten Studios no longer exists.

EDIT: How did you find that video? The channel or video wasn't even popular at all!

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I'll point out now I haven't done anything yet because of computer absense. HOWEVER, once the night of May 30th strikes, I'll be ready to begin brainstorming conventional, but creative aspects of this.

I'm going to suggest a couple of songs which I am planning to step myself as Boss songs.

Music for the Masses / Darwin
End on a Hard Note / Fracus
Any songs from Futureworld Summer Annual 2014
Any songs from LAPFOX TRAX
If you need cuts for any of these songs, feel free to ask.

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Hm... I'm interested in that first song. Would you like to provide a cut for it?

Yes i can. It should be done this week.

Music For The Masses cut
BPM: 175 - Beat 0 Offset: 0 seconds, aka it's already synced.
The cut is just over 2 minutes; if you want me to make it smaller, I can.

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Thanks. I've accepted your cut. I look forward to working with you this fall!


I'm crossing over two Pop n' Music songs into DDRMAX4. Similar in nature to how DDR Extreme decided to collect songs like White Lovers and Daikenkai.

First one;



0/1 Angel by V.C.O. featuring Alt. Pop N' Music 8.

This song.... just relates to me. That's just it. The song's electronic melody is perfect to step, the lyrics and charming, and the featured character looks...cute.



Next;



Klungkung 1655 by simon.

Here is a cartoony fast-paced song. I think this too will click together well with DDRMAX4. There are also 2 other people that have stepped this, as far as I know of.

And it's video;



This is quite a music video. More of interest is the bunny, though.



Usao-Kun, Keyboardmania's unofficial mascot. I located him while snooping through some of Moro EX's other videos. I think, with the nature of some of the videos Moro EX made for DDR Extreme, that I can get him into my project too. (Also, does anyone know why his eyes are derpy?...)

Discuss.


UPDATE: I got a songlist from hamsand-210.



The main problem with this, however, is that there are ZIV Simfile shuffle songs in here that haven't been given permission (CLASH, DANCE ALL NIGHT, and New York Fantasy, even though I love those songs to death). There are also songs with potential here (0/1 Angel, Klungklung 1655, WHEN MY BABY (Almighty Mix) NEW CENTURY GENERATION, MAAAAYBE some others?) that I want to add, some favorite revivals (CAPTAIN JACK's ODORU PONPOKOLIN, Can Be Real, ever snow, others), and some Max3 songs. I'm aiming for the list to be the "2nd largest" in the DDRMAX-EXTREME series, the largest being EXTREME.

AFRONOVA and SEXY PLANET (oni) also have to be cut because their normal counterparts are missing.

Something else; I want the gameplay theme to be similar to DDR Extreme USA;



As in, the interface is less crowded and the backgrounds are fullscreen. This may additionally help with reading the arrows.

...I spy, with my little eye...my file for Prelude. Hmm.

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