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Post #1161 · Posted at 2015-05-03 02:05:13am 9 years ago

Offline Hido
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Thanks to both jch2140 and T.KAZ3-1 for your tips. I just reached 1600RP a few minutes ago, so I'll do a few test with RSF to see if that helped or not on getting yellow unlock challenge (around 700PT spent and still just blue ones appearing over and over).

Post #1162 · Posted at 2015-05-03 03:05:31am 9 years ago

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"Witch hunt victim."

Post #1163 · Posted at 2015-05-04 04:40:13am 9 years ago

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After +850 spent premium tickets and about 120 player tickets (maybe more) I finally triggered a Yellow ULC. song was チルドレン・オートマトン~ある歌声の亡霊~ (Hard difficulty). To be honest, is the less favourite for me in this game. Still a few days left until this RSF is over.

Post #1164 · Posted at 2015-05-04 12:23:01pm 9 years ago

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Quote: Hido
In other news, the new RP Bonus list helped me a lot with my current level. Last night I was wondering if it's "compulsory" to clear Rebellion or Next Frontier -True Rise- in order to get the +2000RP rank.... Those who already have achieve that level, what do you think/say about it? Could someone get the +2000RP without an Ultimate gameplay clear on those two songs?
I currently have 2200.02 RP and haven't Ult Cleared either of those songs. Neither one currently counts towards my RP at all, in fact. But since you asked, I went and did some quick math. I took my own scores, and removed everything that fit any of the following criteria:

* Everything I haven't Ult Cleared.
* Everything I haven't FC'd.
* Everything that has only ever been available via RSF.
* Everything rated 87 or higher.

Then I calculated my hypothetical RP using the resulting list. Here's what I got:

........ Song Title .......... Lv. . Rate ... RP .
=========================== . ==== . ==== . ======
CrossShooter ................ 85.0 .. 99% . 100.98
Z[i] ........................ 86.0 .. 97% . 100.10
Omniverse ................... 83.0 .. 98% .. 97.60
NEXT FRONTIER ............... 82.0 .. 99% .. 97.41
DAZZLING♡SEASON ............. 80.0 . 100% .. 96.00
いいね! ..................... 81.0 .. 98% .. 95.25
some day (instrumental) ..... 77.7 .. 99% .. 92.30
魔界村 (平地BGM) ............ 77.0 .. 99% .. 91.47
some day -see you again- .... 75.0 . 100% .. 90.00
電脳少女は歌姫の夢を見るか? . 76.0 .. 98% .. 89.37
覚醒 ∞ awake! .............. 75.0 .. 98% .. 88.20
ツカイステ・デッドワールド .. 74.0 .. 98% .. 87.02
現実幻覚スピードスター ...... 73.0 .. 99% .. 86.72
Hypersphere ................. 73.0 .. 98% .. 85.84
Sundrop ..................... 73.0 .. 98% .. 85.84
Impact ...................... 72.0 .. 99% .. 85.53
I.D. ........................ 72.0 .. 98% .. 84.67
tokyo ....................... 71.0 .. 98% .. 83.49
ホコロビシロガールズ ........ 71.0 .. 98% .. 83.49
Azitate ..................... 70.0 .. 99% .. 83.16
----------------- RP Bonus Songs -----------------
Lotus Love .................. 62.0 .. 99% .. 73.65
Loveless .................... 53.0 .. 99% .. 62.96
ホントのワタシ .............. 48.0 .. 99% .. 57.02
未確認XX生命体 .............. 45.0 . 100% .. 54.00
JUSTICE [from] GUILTY ....... 40.0 .. 99% .. 47.52
=================================== Total: 2099.59


Conclusion: It's doable, but very hard unless you have a couple of the RSF-only songs.
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Post #1165 · Posted at 2015-05-04 04:33:48pm 9 years ago

Offline Hido
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Wow! Thanks Poochy! You were really helpful too. I have been looking at others' RP list and they all share the same 2 songs within the first 3 Slots: Next Frontier and Omniverse. It seems like I have a lot to train yet. *sigh*

Post #1166 · Posted at 2015-05-04 05:04:19pm 9 years ago

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About RSF drop rate theory. I don't think so.
I reached RP 2000+ for around half a year and now I only have 5 RSF exclusive songs so far. I used to paid some money for premium tickets, but now, I don't event bother to spend (free) premium ticket for RSF anymore.

On the other hand, one of my friend has around RP 1900, but he already have 10+ RSF exclusive songs. Moreover, he claimed that he has never paid any single yen to CAPCOM.

So, I think it's pure luck. Spending more tickets means there are more chance, but it would never guarantee that you will get any song from RSF.
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Post #1167 · Posted at 2015-05-04 08:26:19pm 9 years ago

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Quote: pugkung
About RSF drop rate theory. I don't think so.
I reached RP 2000+ for around half a year and now I only have 5 RSF exclusive songs so far. I used to paid some money for premium tickets, but now, I don't event bother to spend (free) premium ticket for RSF anymore.

On the other hand, one of my friend has around RP 1900, but he already have 10+ RSF exclusive songs. Moreover, he claimed that he has never paid any single yen to CAPCOM.

So, I think it's pure luck. Spending more tickets means there are more chance, but it would never guarantee that you will get any song from RSF.
I'm inclined to agree.

On my main account, I've got around 800 RP, and as of this afternoon, I've probably spent somewhere around a total of 250+ premium tickets during the current RSF, and only had one yellow ULC appear. Meanwhile, I've got an alternate account with only about 269 RP that I haven't spent any money on, and managed to get two yellow ULCs to appear after only spending free tickets.

This leads me to believe that the RSF drop-rates are indeed RNG-based. It's just the chances of said RNG being in your favor are negligible at best. Confused

Post #1168 · Posted at 2015-05-05 07:18:38pm 9 years ago

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Last updated: 2015-05-05 07:50pm
Next event announced: Ultimate Beats Vol.2
Rule is Highscore Attack

Songs used for the event:

Wanna Be Your Special (Remix ver.)
tokyo
Murasame

Rewards:

Main
============
"Digital World" game skin (can also be obtained for 5000000 score and above)

Sub Rewards
============

Assign - MASAYASU // 300000 score
http://game.capcom.com/crossbeats/event/Assign.png

OKONIKUKOD - SHU OKUYAMA // 1200000 score
http://game.capcom.com/crossbeats/event/OKONIKUKOD.png


Fun Fact:

One of the sub event rewards, OKONIKUKOD, is actually "DOKU KINOKO" spelled backward. When translated to Japanese Kanji, it is 毒キノコ (Poison Mushroom), which is depicted in the cover jacket.

Post #1169 · Posted at 2015-05-05 08:05:30pm 9 years ago

Offline Arrows&Beats
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"Witch hunt victim."
The reward songs sound pretty cool, but not that hard like the last ULTIMATE BEATS'. I appreciate how the songs are available to everyone to earn at a reasonable amount of points but again, that game skin as a reward isn't really that good-looking.

Anyway, these are another two of the songs that were referred to in the game's code since the beginning. The last two songs that haven't appeared yet are:
Deicida of silence / 12012
Wonderful / Fraz

Post #1170 · Posted at 2015-05-05 11:42:53pm 9 years ago

Offline T.KAZ3-1
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This seems like some old school high score attack event.
I still remember the day of the 1st event ever, where the 3 songs are Wannabe/Touch of Gold/Azitate
(100th to get Break the World, I think), and the competition is extremely intense.

Luckily no song rewards in the main event
Currently focusing on maimai, solely because KONAMI is just stupid in the console systems.
Scratch that, Taiko is finally coming to Hong Kong!

iidx: 十段(10thDan) 80%
pop'n music: passing all 47 except Evans
GITADORA Guitarfreaks: 7500

Post #1171 · Posted at 2015-05-06 03:59:20am 9 years ago

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Thinking about T.KAZ3-1's words, this is so deja-vú-ish.... At least they added another zero in the right side this time (Remembering CxB's first event.... it was so frustrating to see that "first 100th will have a song" prize...)

Quote: Byte
I'm inclined to agree.

On my main account, I've got around 800 RP, and as of this afternoon, I've probably spent somewhere around a total of 250+ premium tickets during the current RSF, and only had one yellow ULC appear. Meanwhile, I've got an alternate account with only about 269 RP that I haven't spent any money on, and managed to get two yellow ULCs to appear after only spending free tickets.

This leads me to believe that the RSF drop-rates are indeed RNG-based. It's just the chances of said RNG being in your favor are negligible at best. Confused

That RNG-based theory sounds very legit. Still, I'm 200% sure there has been at least one instance where such "randomness" has been manipulated: During CxB's anniversary RSF, a huge amount of people (myself included) could get C+A with almost no effort. In my case, it was my 4th try in the whole event. It was a great moment for me, that until the lobi became full of "Hey, I got C+A through NM-ULC!" messages in just a few hours (I remember my list had 4 ULC's at once... and the song was C+A in every single one of them).

I want to thank those who have shared your thoughts and theories regarding RSF. After reading everything, I feel kinda disappointed about getting more yellow unlocks for now, like I went back to square 1 on that research. However, RSF is still a subject of inverstingation for me... althought I plan to avoid the speed-ticket-spending plan this time.

Post #1172 · Posted at 2015-05-06 04:38:41am 9 years ago

Offline Byte
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Quote: Hido
That RNG-based theory sounds very legit. Still, I'm 200% sure there has been at least one instance where such "randomness" has been manipulated: During CxB's anniversary RSF, a huge amount of people (myself included) could get C+A with almost no effort. In my case, it was my 4th try in the whole event. It was a great moment for me, that until the lobi became full of "Hey, I got C+A through NM-ULC!" messages in just a few hours (I remember my list had 4 ULC's at once... and the song was C+A in every single one of them).
Oddly enough, something very similar happened to me during the last RSF with that very same song. This was back when I had just picked CxB back up again after a year or so, and getting C+A was pretty cool. Then a day or so later, I somehow managed to also get C+A on the alt. account I've got on my phone...

Makes me wonder if certain songs have slightly higher drop rates compared to others. To back this up, I can remember seeing plenty of accounts in the "Recommend" section of the friends menu that had C+A, but no other "special" songs (i.e. event unlocks and such).

Post #1173 · Posted at 2015-05-06 10:38:12am 9 years ago

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According to Prico with Deardrop official blog, there seems to be a full version of 覚醒∞awake! available since January.
However, the single seems to be available for purchase only at their live events.

No words if the single will be available for purchase in a normal way,
or the tracks will be making into their upcoming albums though...

http://blog.excite.co.jp/pwd/23622298/

Post #1174 · Posted at 2015-05-06 02:04:41pm 9 years ago

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"HEADPHONE PARTY is best party"
I feel kinda stupid for asking this, but I've been curious: Is it still possible to get a serial code for some day -see you again-?

Post #1175 · Posted at 2015-05-06 02:19:18pm 9 years ago

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Quote: Hido

That RNG-based theory sounds very legit. Still, I'm 200% sure there has been at least one instance where such "randomness" has been manipulated: During CxB's anniversary RSF, a huge amount of people (myself included) could get C+A with almost no effort. In my case, it was my 4th try in the whole event. It was a great moment for me, that until the lobi became full of "Hey, I got C+A through NM-ULC!" messages in just a few hours (I remember my list had 4 ULC's at once... and the song was C+A in every single one of them).

I indeed agree with that in every RSF, each song has different weight.
Right now, old RSF songs like Rockman Remix tends to drop easier than newer RSF songs. Almost all of my friend have it in possession.

I also remembered that Garnet Howl appeared a lot on the RSF after the event that use this song, and literally vaporised after that RSF.
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Post #1176 · Posted at 2015-05-06 02:51:36pm 9 years ago

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Quote: Byte
I feel kinda stupid for asking this, but I've been curious: Is it still possible to get a serial code for some day -see you again-?
As far as I remember, the serial code for some day -see you again- only was valid for a month or so, so no.

Post #1177 · Posted at 2015-05-06 03:22:42pm 9 years ago

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As far as I remember, the serial code for some day -see you again- only was valid for a month or so, so no.
Thought so. The inaccuracies of Google translate got my hopes up there for a bit... Oops

Post #1178 · Posted at 2015-05-06 06:41:58pm 9 years ago

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"Revolution"
I finally got a ULC that wasn't blue. It was green, and it was What Is Wrong With The World (Cross Edit). Would like to see one yellow, though.
Music is always running in my mind... Everyday, songs old and new come to mind.
...
I wonder how a DJ Hero-esque mix of an AFRONOVA medley and Fascination MAXX would sound...

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Wowzas!

Post #1179 · Posted at 2015-05-07 03:11:23am 9 years ago

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Quote: jch02140
According to Prico with Deardrop official blog, there seems to be a full version of 覚醒∞awake! available since January.
However, the single seems to be available for purchase only at their live events.

No words if the single will be available for purchase in a normal way,
or the tracks will be making into their upcoming albums though...

http://blog.excite.co.jp/pwd/23622298/

Grat, another rare album to add on the list. I'm still trying to find headphone-tokyo**'s multiple tentative album Oops

Post #1180 · Posted at 2015-05-07 01:52:32pm 9 years ago

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Quote: Hido
Grat, another rare album to add on the list. I'm still trying to find headphone-tokyo**'s multiple tentative album Oops

You can only buy Headphone-Tokyo**'s multiple tentative album from the following site. Unfortunately, you will need a third party to buy it for you since they only ship within Japan...

http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0030/23/40/040030234095.html
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