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Post #941 · Posted at 2012-08-07 10:27:42pm 11.7 years ago

Offline Silverhawke
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NNRT Challenge has some interesting crossovers that aren't doublesteps.
But I didn't really like it much, heavy was more fun, haha.

That's why I did two charts with roughly similar difficulty; different charting style Tongue

Also I edited my previous post.
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Post #942 · Posted at 2012-08-07 10:43:37pm 11.7 years ago

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Wait I didn't see this before.

Quote: Paradox0
Euro-Romance
Some nice flow but I question some of the double steps used, as sometimes they continued onto awkward double steppy streams. 16ths where used pretty well

Actually they are footswitches, I kinda hinted that with the repeated pattern (e.g. URD, URD, URDDURD)
Measure 40, the second 8th triplet, D,U,L, puts me into a crossover like stance which then the stream starting at 41 feels awkward, either involving me to commit to a very fast foot switch or have to do an awkward double step.
Measure 45 LRDDLRD, feels awkward for me, but i suppose thats just , my preference
Measure 53 LDUURDU, Similar situation as above,
Playing this again I will also comment on how the concept of the chart gets more difficult towards the end, for the better.

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Quote: Paradox0
NNRT
Challenge - Aside from some double steps...

Can you point me to those doublesteps? Confused
Admittedly, theres really only one iffy double step section in this chart.
The beginning of the freeze stream starting in 66 LDRUL is a half spin which places my back to the screen, which is followed by the UDULDLRD 8th in 68. For me to hit that without double stepping or spinning/half spinning (something I don't enjoy at 200bpm+, I would have to completely reset myself so my right foot is U, while my left foot is D, but I typically would return from a spin such as 66, with my left foot U, and right foot D. This kind of guesswork foot switch feels really out of place in this chart, and is something I am not crazy about.

As for the off 16ths, it wasn't off per se, so much as the part of the music which was decided to be followed is deceptive (although probably purposely so). Starting at 83, you begin to follow the synths more closely, but when it is first used, the synth and keyboard are played together but as this part of the song continues, the synth slowly moves away from the keyboard by half a beat to a few beats over time. What I suppose was confusing is sometimes you would follow the keyboard, but sometimes the synth, and since they are played so closely together (and that I am pretty familiar with the song, atleast the keyboards), it seemed that you would have followed the keyboard more likely that the synth when they shared the same musical space.

Edit: As for the Speed Ups/Slow Downs, they made sense in context of the song. They weren't too gimmicky, and although I typically don't like speed ups/slowdowns if they are placed in a chart sensically enough or don't add too much out of place BS to a chart it really doesn't bother me much.

Post #943 · Posted at 2012-08-07 11:22:24pm 11.7 years ago

Offline Silverhawke
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My response:
Quote: Paradox0
Measure 40, the second 8th triplet, D,U,L, puts me into a crossover like stance which then the stream starting at 41 feels awkward, either involving me to commit to a very fast foot switch or have to do an awkward double step.
Measure 45 LRDDLRD, feels awkward for me, but i suppose thats just , my preference
Measure 53 LDUURDU, Similar situation as above,
Playing this again I will also comment on how the concept of the chart gets more difficult towards the end, for the better.

Well, one thing I learnt from DDR is that they don't always make you alternate feet. Sometimes after a stream (or a group of arrows), you have to start the next bunch using the feet you ended the last bunch with.

You should note that measure 40~54 is the footswitch area, which I hint with the DUL, DUL, DULDDUL.
Applies to measure 45 and 53 too, e.g. LRDDLRD -> switch your feet on the DD.
After lots of footswitches on down arrow, I put a up arrow footswitch on the end of this part; footswitches on up arrow tend to be harder than one on left arrow.

(what inspired me to do this is CELEBRATE NITE (EURO TRANCE STYLE) and UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky remix). There should be other charts with footswitch(es), but I forgot. osaka EVOLVED does this just once, and POSSESSION Standard and U Can't Touch This have one footswitch-able part)

Quote: Paradox0
Admittedly, theres really only one iffy double step section in this chart.
The beginning of the freeze stream starting in 66 LDRUL is a half spin which places my back to the screen, which is followed by the UDULDLRD 8th in 68. For me to hit that without double stepping or spinning/half spinning (something I don't enjoy at 200bpm+, I would have to completely reset myself so my right foot is U, while my left foot is D, but I typically would return from a spin such as 66, with my left foot U, and right foot D. This kind of guesswork foot switch feels really out of place in this chart, and is something I am not crazy about.

Actually all those freeze arrows around that part are intentional spins. You must spin on that LDRUL, if you force yourself not to spin you will end up with that.

IMO if you follow "UDLRDLD U jump" correctly, you will always end up spinning. Which is intentional.

Quote: Paradox0
As for the off 16ths, it wasn't off per se, so much as the part of the music which was decided to be followed is deceptive (although probably purposely so). Starting at 83, you begin to follow the synths more closely, but when it is first used, the synth and keyboard are played together but as this part of the song continues, the synth slowly moves away from the keyboard by half a beat to a few beats over time. What I suppose was confusing is sometimes you would follow the keyboard, but sometimes the synth, and since they are played so closely together (and that I am pretty familiar with the song, atleast the keyboards), it seemed that you would have followed the keyboard more likely that the synth when they shared the same musical space.

Basically, I based the Heavy on the keyboard and the Challenge on the synths. I avoid charting the same part, because if I did, what's the point of the Challenge chart?
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Post #944 · Posted at 2012-08-07 11:53:55pm 11.7 years ago

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Quote: Silverhawke
My response:
Quote: Paradox0
Measure 40, the second 8th triplet, D,U,L, puts me into a crossover like stance which then the stream starting at 41 feels awkward, either involving me to commit to a very fast foot switch or have to do an awkward double step.
Measure 45 LRDDLRD, feels awkward for me, but i suppose thats just , my preference
Measure 53 LDUURDU, Similar situation as above,
Playing this again I will also comment on how the concept of the chart gets more difficult towards the end, for the better.

Well, one thing I learnt from DDR is that they don't always make you alternate feet. Sometimes after a stream (or a group of arrows), you have to start the next bunch using the feet you ended the last bunch with.

You should note that measure 40~54 is the footswitch area, which I hint with the DUL, DUL, DULDDUL.
Applies to measure 45 and 53 too, e.g. LRDDLRD -> switch your feet on the DD.
After lots of footswitches on down arrow, I put a up arrow footswitch on the end of this part; footswitches on up arrow tend to be harder than one on left arrow.

(what inspired me to do this is CELEBRATE NITE (EURO TRANCE STYLE) and UNBELIEVABLE (Sparky remix). There should be other charts with footswitch(es), but I forgot. osaka EVOLVED does this just once, and POSSESSION Standard and U Can't Touch This have one footswitch-able part)

When it really comes down to it, I really don't like Unbelievable (Sparky Mix) or Celebrate Nite (ETS), so that may be an indicator why I didn't like the foot switch gimmick used in Euro-Romance too much, especially when it could be initially seen as a crossover if I don't read the arrows far enough. But that's the awesome thing but the Summer Competition, so many different people with different takes on types of songs create pretty cohesive yet unique step charts. I may not always agree with the ideas but most of the charts are usually pretty good. Besides 2 out of 427 arrows being not to my liking isn't bad.

Post #945 · Posted at 2012-08-08 12:43:01am 11.7 years ago

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Never mind voting ends tonight.

Post #946 · Posted at 2012-08-08 12:45:41am 11.7 years ago

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Wait I thought the voting ended at 10:00 PM EST?
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Post #947 · Posted at 2012-08-08 12:46:48am 11.7 years ago

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Wait I thought the voting ended at 10:00 PM EST?
Yeah I forgot about that. Sorry.

Post #948 · Posted at 2012-08-08 08:11:23am 11.7 years ago

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Post #949 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:16:04am 11.7 years ago

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Wait I thought the voting ended at 10:00 PM EST?
Yeah I forgot about that. Sorry.
Actually they're even slightly later this week because I had a busy day~

Week 12 voting has closed! The winners are:

1st: Lidl (Donk Remix), by Oni-91! [27 pts.]
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2nd: reunion, by Blinded_No_More! [24 pts.]
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3rd: NNRT, by Silverhawke! [20 pts.]
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Week 13 entries have closed, and Week 13 voting may begin!
Week 13 voting ends Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 10pm EDT (15 August @ 2am UTC)..

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Post #950 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:19:09am 11.7 years ago

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he's not online so free week :V

Post #951 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:20:16am 11.7 years ago

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Free week ok thank you

Post #952 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:24:27am 11.7 years ago

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Post #953 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:26:08am 11.7 years ago

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DDR III won't exist anyway so it's just a free week in disguise

Post #954 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:48:44am 11.7 years ago

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DDR III won't exist anyway so it's just a free week in disguise

Ouch.

Post #955 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:50:07am 11.7 years ago

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and if it did exist it would probably be horrible

Post #956 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:51:00am 11.7 years ago

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Post #957 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:52:03am 11.7 years ago

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what a stupid theme

Post #958 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:52:21am 11.7 years ago

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and if it did exist it would probably be horrible

Because of how terrible DDR II was? Neutral

Post #959 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:53:09am 11.7 years ago

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DDR I and DDR II were shit

I don't mean the X2 songs

Post #960 · Posted at 2012-08-08 09:54:50am 11.7 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
So you take something that's good, omit what made it good, then call it shit... Okay.
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