Post #1 · Posted at 2011-03-29 12:34:15am 13 years ago
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This is going to be my thread for mentioning the song file names and also will eb my updated post for my priject I will also have links on here because I'm killing my MSSM (MySpace StepMix) project for good.
This is just a discussion thread I will enter here. IF anyone has Questions about ti ro my files let me know because I will be on ere discussing them.
Anyway I love Aegis.
And -91 is the best
IKE! (GO) PIE is my hero
and 'Zenius-I-Vanisher' is my favorite site and Song for the Piano mixing lover of DJ TAKA's style
Now that it was my random blurr moment I liek to thank everyone, and also I wish that I cna get some help and comments here ooki.
This is just a discussion thread I will enter here. IF anyone has Questions about ti ro my files let me know because I will be on ere discussing them.
Anyway I love Aegis.
And -91 is the best
IKE! (GO) PIE is my hero
and 'Zenius-I-Vanisher' is my favorite site and Song for the Piano mixing lover of DJ TAKA's style
Now that it was my random blurr moment I liek to thank everyone, and also I wish that I cna get some help and comments here ooki.
Post #2 · Posted at 2011-03-29 03:09:34am 13 years ago
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I love you too.
Post #3 · Posted at 2011-03-31 05:32:48am 13 years ago
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OOKI PEOPLE! I'm ready for the Discussion of my Simfile Creation in the almost 2 LONG YEARS. So let me give a shout out to Aegis, KON, Lord Toon, and others on the ZIV and sorry for being an butt on the board.
Here are my Newest Songs I'm posted:
Aegis - IT Medalion 1 3 6 9 10
Dedicated to Aegis and to ZIV
GEEK - JEKO 1 5 7
This is off of a song I found off of YouTube and found out it was a company called DANCE AND LOVE
These are my other new posts:
Wuv U - kors k 1 6 9
This is one of my favorite songs off of REFLEC BEAT
Sakura Reflection - Ryu* 1 8 10
This is another one and my version if an easy 10 for heavy
An updated Stepfile for AntoineRalic Simfiles:
Track 4 - From THE NEXT TETRIS 1 4 5 7
I'm only posting 5 stepfile titles at a time to get as many responses as possible. And i would like for everyone to comment.
Anyone wanna share on here at least I need some constructive criticism.
That way I can see how you all think
Here are my Newest Songs I'm posted:
Aegis - IT Medalion 1 3 6 9 10
Dedicated to Aegis and to ZIV
GEEK - JEKO 1 5 7
This is off of a song I found off of YouTube and found out it was a company called DANCE AND LOVE
These are my other new posts:
Wuv U - kors k 1 6 9
This is one of my favorite songs off of REFLEC BEAT
Sakura Reflection - Ryu* 1 8 10
This is another one and my version if an easy 10 for heavy
An updated Stepfile for AntoineRalic Simfiles:
Track 4 - From THE NEXT TETRIS 1 4 5 7
I'm only posting 5 stepfile titles at a time to get as many responses as possible. And i would like for everyone to comment.
Anyone wanna share on here at least I need some constructive criticism.
That way I can see how you all think
Post #4 · Posted at 2011-03-31 07:50:53am 13 years ago
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Since I charted Aegis myself I'm going to give your 10 a detailed review :V
+ It follows the music quite well, sometimes
+ It's a lot more balanced than my Aegis chart (mine gets unnecessarily hard and arguably less fun towards the end)
- Crossovers that don't complete (doublesteps that go to nowhere)
- They're everywhere
Have you tried doing this without doublestepping? I just find it's not good practice to chart like this leaving doublesteps in the middle of a stream. Try playing your chart index, and then seeing how many times you have to use the same finger twice in a row - that pretty much constitutes a doublestep.
+ It follows the music quite well, sometimes
+ It's a lot more balanced than my Aegis chart (mine gets unnecessarily hard and arguably less fun towards the end)
- Crossovers that don't complete (doublesteps that go to nowhere)
- They're everywhere
Have you tried doing this without doublestepping? I just find it's not good practice to chart like this leaving doublesteps in the middle of a stream. Try playing your chart index, and then seeing how many times you have to use the same finger twice in a row - that pretty much constitutes a doublestep.
Post #5 · Posted at 2011-03-31 11:09:12am 13 years ago
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Well, to be honest, I never gave the thought to doublestepping. Also, I didn't even know there was a such thing. I like the steps the way they are so people can catch up on the actual PAD. Not for a keyboard. I double step because it helps a person catch there breath when they mess up. And also I like using it for that reason.
Anything else?
Anything else?
Post #6 · Posted at 2011-03-31 02:36:04pm 13 years ago
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Nonoonoononononono.
You don't get it.
At all.
Doublesteps make it HARDER for people to catch their breath, by making the player work harder.
They also make simfiles a TON less fun to play.
Have you tried your own song on pad? I've got a pad you know.
I was merely using the keyboard example to explain what a doublestep IS.
Quite frankly, you haven't given ANY thought to what the player has to do in these steps, and most likely can't pass 10s yourself.
I would NEVER play your file on pad because of how many doublesteps it has.
Christ, someone besides me explain this.
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"And one step farther than the complex crossover is a spin, which causes your body to turn a full 360 degrees around the pad. A simple example of a spin step is LDRUL. To alternate feet and step this pattern, you have to turn completely around the pad. Turning completely around does not come naturally to most players, which is why spins should not be placed in most streams of any fast speed whatsoever."
Doublestep's most basic form:
Unfun pattern:
SPIN DURING A 400BPM BATF*CK INSANE CHART:
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HOW TO MAKE FUN PAD FILES (Insane Steve):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2526020/r21GuidePart1.htm
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2526020/r21GuidePart2.htm
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2526020/r21GuidePart3.htm
Because however you want to look at it now, your hard files are KEYBOARD files, and your easier charts have randomly placed doublesteps that may go with the flow of the music but do nothing to complement the flow of the steps themselves on a pad.
You don't get it.
At all.
Doublesteps make it HARDER for people to catch their breath, by making the player work harder.
They also make simfiles a TON less fun to play.
Have you tried your own song on pad? I've got a pad you know.
I was merely using the keyboard example to explain what a doublestep IS.
Quite frankly, you haven't given ANY thought to what the player has to do in these steps, and most likely can't pass 10s yourself.
I would NEVER play your file on pad because of how many doublesteps it has.
Christ, someone besides me explain this.
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"And one step farther than the complex crossover is a spin, which causes your body to turn a full 360 degrees around the pad. A simple example of a spin step is LDRUL. To alternate feet and step this pattern, you have to turn completely around the pad. Turning completely around does not come naturally to most players, which is why spins should not be placed in most streams of any fast speed whatsoever."
Doublestep's most basic form:
Unfun pattern:
SPIN DURING A 400BPM BATF*CK INSANE CHART:
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HOW TO MAKE FUN PAD FILES (Insane Steve):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2526020/r21GuidePart1.htm
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2526020/r21GuidePart2.htm
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2526020/r21GuidePart3.htm
Because however you want to look at it now, your hard files are KEYBOARD files, and your easier charts have randomly placed doublesteps that may go with the flow of the music but do nothing to complement the flow of the steps themselves on a pad.
Post #7 · Posted at 2011-03-31 06:04:41pm 13 years ago
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For the record, my files became 800% more fun, once I started listening to Taronuke.
Post #8 · Posted at 2011-03-31 06:14:21pm 13 years ago
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That was just fabulous, Taro
Post #9 · Posted at 2011-03-31 06:44:11pm 13 years ago
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Amen Taro!!
I stay FAR away from AntoineRalic's simfiles because I tried a few of them before and I ONLY play on pad, they blow.
I stay FAR away from AntoineRalic's simfiles because I tried a few of them before and I ONLY play on pad, they blow.
Post #10 · Posted at 2011-03-31 09:59:38pm 13 years ago
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I can see this, but still, I only double step just because I like to use some repeatative patterns.
Anything else?
Anything else?
Post #11 · Posted at 2011-03-31 10:05:16pm 13 years ago
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"Give me a steady beat." |
Double-stepping isn't a problem on DDR-style stepcharts. I've been playing long enough to be able to double-step my way out of "wrong foot first" situation, or complex patterns that I don't know well so that I avoid facing away from the screen. To me its just another way to challenge the player, not a style taboo that some of you are trying to peg it as.
That ITG double-step example is a bit extreme, are Antoine's simfile 400BPM with mines as well?
That ITG double-step example is a bit extreme, are Antoine's simfile 400BPM with mines as well?
Post #12 · Posted at 2011-03-31 10:16:15pm 13 years ago
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THANK YOU AERON I love you *kiss you on the cheeck*
Post #13 · Posted at 2011-03-31 10:17:38pm 13 years ago
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Post #14 · Posted at 2011-03-31 10:20:59pm 13 years ago
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At least tell me about my steps
Post #15 · Posted at 2011-03-31 10:43:04pm 13 years ago
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"Give me a steady beat." |
Firstly, delete jZip and download and install 7Zip (Which is free and doesn't add an annoying url file to your archives).
Secondly, there are too many to choose from and some are broken so I played the five you mentioned here in this thread:
I'll be honest, I was bracing for impact. But your files are pretty good. There properly synced too, which is sadly an uncommon thing in large user archives of simfiles. And the patterns in your stepcharts are noticeable and interesting.
I see what the others are on about though, there is an awful lot of double-stepping and switch-footing and other compound-words. But your charts are not excessively hard or even excessively hard because of them. So I stand by my original comment and say that they don't break the chart or make your simfiles bad in any way. You have a specific style, it's not a common one but it's not a bad one or a sloppy one either. I especially liked the relaxed Expert chart you gave Track 4.
The debate with technical stepcharts vs. double-stepping is as old as StepMania, and is likely to end around the same time as someone proves or disproved the existence of aliens. Understand that not everyone is going to like your files, or they'll feel that they are to hard to enjoy due to the amount of balance and alertness constant double-stepping takes to perform. But complaining that you're doing it at all is like going into a Mexican restaurant and bitching about how all they serve is Mexican food.
If you want to cater to a larger audience, consider spacing the double-steps out more or making them exclusive to the more difficult charts. Treat them like Mines and Freeze Arrows, they should be used to give a simfile variety but don't use them all the time.
OUR LOVE IS REAL! *scowls*
Secondly, there are too many to choose from and some are broken so I played the five you mentioned here in this thread:
I'll be honest, I was bracing for impact. But your files are pretty good. There properly synced too, which is sadly an uncommon thing in large user archives of simfiles. And the patterns in your stepcharts are noticeable and interesting.
I see what the others are on about though, there is an awful lot of double-stepping and switch-footing and other compound-words. But your charts are not excessively hard or even excessively hard because of them. So I stand by my original comment and say that they don't break the chart or make your simfiles bad in any way. You have a specific style, it's not a common one but it's not a bad one or a sloppy one either. I especially liked the relaxed Expert chart you gave Track 4.
The debate with technical stepcharts vs. double-stepping is as old as StepMania, and is likely to end around the same time as someone proves or disproved the existence of aliens. Understand that not everyone is going to like your files, or they'll feel that they are to hard to enjoy due to the amount of balance and alertness constant double-stepping takes to perform. But complaining that you're doing it at all is like going into a Mexican restaurant and bitching about how all they serve is Mexican food.
If you want to cater to a larger audience, consider spacing the double-steps out more or making them exclusive to the more difficult charts. Treat them like Mines and Freeze Arrows, they should be used to give a simfile variety but don't use them all the time.
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OUR LOVE IS REAL! *scowls*
Post #16 · Posted at 2011-04-01 06:11:03am 13 years ago
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It's like going into a Mexican restaurant and bitching about how all they serve is Mexican food.
My problem is that he didn't seem to know the implications of serving Mexican food.
He thought doublestepping made streams easier
Once you learn exactly WHAT Mexican food is, you can advertise "I'M SELLING MEXICAN FOOD", and will make a lot more money from people expecting Mexican food.
I'm pretty sure AeronPython can pass these charts, but I'd like to see a video of Antoine himself padding the Aegis
I'll try the rest of your charts though.
Post #17 · Posted at 2011-04-01 06:14:58am 13 years ago
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And -91 is the best
OI. Spell my name properly.Post #18 · Posted at 2011-04-01 08:00:08am 13 years ago
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Sorry it was a gimmeck Oni, sorry, no offense, anyway about the chart of Sakura Reflection and the others so far.
Ooki, So I got carried away, and to be honest, it makes it less boring for me as I implenet this but I've should of known it makes it harder.
My brain because of my Asphergers is going to make me at least 6 months straight of learning that. But I made this for love of Aegis whether the person knows it or not
Thank you, At least someone is trying to be fair and LEARNING ooki.
Now keep these post coming I feel I'm on a roll.
Besides I like to get as many people on this ass possible because I'm not posting another set of songnames until Monday of next week.
Thanks and I proably will, because it's actually a Spyware, so it's best to Delete it, eventhough it still comes form the same project.
I LIKE VARIETY, LOVE IT! Besides everyone is too much into the same thing and I get tired of it. That's also why I made MySpace StepMix in the first place to do music I LIKE TO STEP TO! I hate fan bases after awhile it gets awkward. So I try to pull variety which is UNBELIEVABLY HARD TO DO.
I
I LIKE INTERESTING, not BORING like SOME simfilers. I want it to be noticable but not expected, because it will get WAY to easy.
Thanks for commenting on sync, I had one REALLY bad comment and I was TEED OFF about it. I'm still updating it and putting Part 1, 2, and 3s to some of them also.
I'll keep that in mind or try to anyway
Says you
YEAH!
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He thought doublestepping made streams easier
Ooki, So I got carried away, and to be honest, it makes it less boring for me as I implenet this but I've should of known it makes it harder.
Quote: TaroNuke
I'm pretty sure AeronPython can pass these charts, but I'd like to see a video of Antoine himself padding the Aegis
My brain because of my Asphergers is going to make me at least 6 months straight of learning that. But I made this for love of Aegis whether the person knows it or not
Quote: TaroNuke
I'll try the rest of your charts though.
Thank you, At least someone is trying to be fair and LEARNING ooki.
Now keep these post coming I feel I'm on a roll.
Besides I like to get as many people on this ass possible because I'm not posting another set of songnames until Monday of next week.
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Firstly, delete jZip and download and install 7Zip (Which is free and doesn't add an annoying url file to your archives).*
Thanks and I proably will, because it's actually a Spyware, so it's best to Delete it, eventhough it still comes form the same project.
Quote: AeronPeryton
Secondly, there are too many to choose from and some are broken so I played the five you mentioned here in this thread*
I LIKE VARIETY, LOVE IT! Besides everyone is too much into the same thing and I get tired of it. That's also why I made MySpace StepMix in the first place to do music I LIKE TO STEP TO! I hate fan bases after awhile it gets awkward. So I try to pull variety which is UNBELIEVABLY HARD TO DO.
I
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'll be honest, I was bracing for impact. But your files are pretty good. There properly synced too, which is sadly an uncommon thing in large user archives of simfiles. And the patterns in your stepcharts are noticeable and interesting.
I LIKE INTERESTING, not BORING like SOME simfilers. I want it to be noticable but not expected, because it will get WAY to easy.
Thanks for commenting on sync, I had one REALLY bad comment and I was TEED OFF about it. I'm still updating it and putting Part 1, 2, and 3s to some of them also.
Quote: AeronPeryton
If you want to cater to a larger audience, consider spacing the double-steps out more or making them exclusive to the more difficult charts. Treat them like Mines and Freeze Arrows, they should be used to give a simfile variety but don't use them all the time.
I'll keep that in mind or try to anyway
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OUR LOVE IS REAL! *scowls*
YEAH!
Post #19 · Posted at 2011-04-01 08:05:33am 13 years ago
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Post more sims.
Post #20 · Posted at 2011-04-02 12:53:45am 13 years ago
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NEW Stepfiles
Hydrogen Blueback - MAD CHILD 9 10
I Get Lonely Too (TLC Fanmail Mix) - DRAKE (remixed by Kris-Chin) 8
Home -2008- (BIG LOVE THEME SONG for SEASONS 3 and 4 - Engineers 1 4 5
Never - DJ Tonka 2 3 5 8
Need Love (Henry L Remix) - Paskal & Urban Absoluties 1 5 8
Revival Files
Almagist - Galdeira 10 14
Are You That Somebody - Alliyah feat. Timaland 2 4 5 8
BARBIEBASE - DJ JACK 1 4 6 8
MIRACLE MEETS - Luck Vaccum 2 4 6 9
Sorry for the Editing but it was really needed. I wasn't planning to post new stuff, but, I wished you all would talk about all of them and not be liek a fan boy and talk about a specific file.
Anyone want to comment
Hydrogen Blueback - MAD CHILD 9 10
I Get Lonely Too (TLC Fanmail Mix) - DRAKE (remixed by Kris-Chin) 8
Home -2008- (BIG LOVE THEME SONG for SEASONS 3 and 4 - Engineers 1 4 5
Never - DJ Tonka 2 3 5 8
Need Love (Henry L Remix) - Paskal & Urban Absoluties 1 5 8
Revival Files
Almagist - Galdeira 10 14
Are You That Somebody - Alliyah feat. Timaland 2 4 5 8
BARBIEBASE - DJ JACK 1 4 6 8
MIRACLE MEETS - Luck Vaccum 2 4 6 9
Sorry for the Editing but it was really needed. I wasn't planning to post new stuff, but, I wished you all would talk about all of them and not be liek a fan boy and talk about a specific file.
Anyone want to comment