n00b_saib0t's original simfiles

i guess its about time i did this, my first 4 files can be found in the link in my sig. just click the ghetto MSPaint banner and you're there!

feedback would be awesome. if they are good, why? if they are horrible and i need to be shot, why? i want to make more in the future, and i have edits from PS2 versions i'm going to be porting to SM soon and adding, so i need to know where my mistakes are so i'm not "that guy" posting horrible simfiles everyone laughs at.

edit - apparently me asking for help on my charting habbits isnt enough of an indication that these arent complete, either that or hellrazor is dumber than i thought. anyway more charts will be added, but why "finish" them when i dont know what i'm doing?

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Horrible and you need to be shot, why? Because you made challenge only simfiles. If you are too lazy to make complete charts then I will refuse to download them.

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You used the wrong word. It's supposed to be you're.

Nobody can take you seriously. You're like a bitchy little girl.

He didn't make Beg-Exp. Big fucking whoop. Tough shit man, if it bothers you SO much, then try making better simfiles yourself. Seriously.

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I have many simfiles I've made myself.

And it is important to me, I have a family and each of us plays at different difficulty levels, I find single-difficulty only files to be incomplete and lazy.

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Nobody is forcing you to download these simfiles.

I'm not downloading them and I won't download them, I simply stated my opinion and why I felt that way, simple and plain.

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This is unnecessary. You have clearly made your point time and time again that you do not download incomplete simfiles so you do not need to mention it here as well.

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*retarded voice* I find single-difficulty only files to be incomplete and lazy.

You can't judge a book by its cover.

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OH HEY - Let's play them, and find out if we like them?

Hmm... I'll download them tomorrow and try them.

I actually did look at the stepcharts. From looking at them, I find them very nice.

So noob, good job.

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They all look unpolished, but Prelude has a fucking amazing chart, and if you gave it randomly generated basic/trick steps (which nobody will ever even look at, anyway), and a less minimalistic banner, then I don't think anyone would be able to fault it.

@hellrazor- i have plans for i was made for lovin you heavy (gene simmon's base line instead of the synthesized one), and some how i think i could have left the DDR steps intact for can't stop the rain and you wouldnt have even noticed, so either critique my current charts or shut your god damn mouth.

@tyma - wow, thanks. yes, they're a tad unpolished but i didnt know how to make them any better by myself so i figured i would make a category for them and see where others find my faults to be. i didnt expect anyone to say one of my charts was as good as you think prelude is though.

@xRGTMx - thanks.

@everyone else - if you have opinions, let me hear is.

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I'll go play it on a mat in the morning to confirm my suspicions, but Prelude seems special, because it's something you'd never hear in a dancing game, and has steps that you'd never see in a commercial dancing game. The difference is that most "steps you'd never seen in a commercial dancing game" are fucking terrible, wheras these are quirky and well-balanced.

The difficulty spike in the middle works really well, because the song builds up slowly, and then gives you a warm-up stream of difficult steps, before the spike. The spike isn't stupidly hard, and it's fairly possible to expect the average player to full-combo it on the 3rd or 4th attempt. The technically difficult part of the song is only 30-40 seconds long, but the intro and outro both serve as a buffer, because if you're going to try and combo the whole thing, the player has to :

a) Play through the intro as a warm-up
b) Play the "warm-up stream", which, if you know what's about to come, is going to spark off some adrenaline
c) Nail the very demanding technical section for a full combo
d) Carry your combo through another 30 seconds of fun, simple streams. These are actually not that exciting, but the player is pumping adrenaline, and hopefuly on-edge, because they're carrying a meaningful combo, and don't want to slip up on something easy
e) Reach the last bar, and keep enough composure to remember the speed changes, and judge them accordingly.

That's a fun song, right there. It's really special because of how it's laid out, and the structure fits the music perfectly. It's bang-on, and doesn't fall into any of the traps that usually ruin challenging simfiles.

The only problem is that, as you've seen, people care more about presentation than having fun. A lot of people want Stepmania to look pretty, and when they see gaps in difficulty, or simplistic artwork, they dismiss something as being low-quality. They aren't all jerks about it, but unless you pad the simfile with basic and trick difficulties, and at least put a lens flare on your background, you won't grab any attention :{

i might have to go get photoshop and make better quality BGs and banners for my stuff, but light, standard, and heavy difficulties are already a part of the plan, i just figured i would get an opinion of my works in progress and see what people do and dont like, then incorporate that into finishing.

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You should have said that initially, I thought you were posting finished products, and I simply stated my bias against challenge only charts nothing more.

I tried the Kiss file and the synching isn't even close, the song doesn't fit a standard BPM, it will require MANY BPM changes throughout to follow the rhythm.

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Thought you might want this...Hope I'm not crossing any lines here...//

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*dark, booming voice* HOSPITALITY!

Toon, I'm not sure if it's possible for you to get on anyone's bad side.

@toon - you fucking rock, man! thats awesome

@hellrazor - okay, thanks for the honest advice. my brother makes simfiles on r21freak and he tried i was made for lovin you and said the same thing. i guess it felt okay for me because my PA isnt up there with others. anyway he's working on that for me, and i'll update the file when he's done.

question, if i make my own chart for a DDR song, is it permissible to leave the original charts in place and add my own challenge or edit chart, or is that considered a no-no? i have edits for i will survive, butterfly upswing mix, and .59 -remix- on extreme 2 and strike, i was planning on porting them to SM but i'll hold off until these are completely done if people dont like that idea.

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