Post #61 · Posted at 2008-11-08 08:55:29am 15.4 years ago
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what your stating is actually true in some. my sister did a survey of a class asking who do you support and mostly everyone said Obama. Then she asked why and no one answered. My sister is in Grade 12 so they are close the the voting age so it can kind of be compared to the young voters in the US. but i know there are other voters with reasons why they voted for Obama.I was worrying that McCain would continue the war in Iraq for an excessively long time, wasting money among other things. Also, I was a bit concerned about McCain's age, and there were various other reasons I can't quite put my finger on. Being from Arizona, though, it was hard not to have "sympathy" for McCain and consideration for his greater political experience.
I don't really know what to say about the young voters above, but I appreciate their effort.
Also, I had a bit of a "WTF?" reaction when I saw how big Obama's Electoral College majority was.
Post #62 · Posted at 2008-11-08 09:17:07am 15.4 years ago
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^thats part of my huge problem with the electoral college system. obama didnt win by more than double the popular vote, so where the hell do these numbers come from? it looks like he kicked mccain's ass, but it only appears that way because he had more votes in states that are worth a ton on the electoral college system. at least its not as bad as bush losing the popular vote and winning the election against gore, but still, its bull shit to say the least.
Post #63 · Posted at 2008-11-08 09:30:39am 15.4 years ago
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There definatly is something screwy about the electoral college. George Bush actually wasn't the first president to lose the popular vote but win the election.
From Infoplease.com:
Four Presidents won the popular vote but lost the presidency: Andrew Jackson won the popular vote but lost the election to John Quincy Adams (1824); Samuel J. Tilden won the popular vote but lost the election to Rutherford B. Hayes (1876); Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost the election to Benjamin Harrison (1888); Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George W. Bush (2000).
From Infoplease.com:
Four Presidents won the popular vote but lost the presidency: Andrew Jackson won the popular vote but lost the election to John Quincy Adams (1824); Samuel J. Tilden won the popular vote but lost the election to Rutherford B. Hayes (1876); Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost the election to Benjamin Harrison (1888); Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George W. Bush (2000).
Post #64 · Posted at 2008-11-08 09:34:18am 15.4 years ago
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The only thing I don't like about his victory is, (not trying to sound racist here) but the african americans simply voted for Barack just because he's black and turned his campaign into pop culture.
The funny thing about this is before the Iowa Caucus, most African Americans supported Hillary Clinton because they felt Obama wasn't 'black' enough, and they liked the Clintons because of what Bill did for African-Americans (Enough to be dubbed the first black president).
So Obama wins the Iowa Caucus, and suddenly he's got 90% of the AA vote. I thought that was sort of funny...
Post #65 · Posted at 2008-11-08 11:18:01am 15.4 years ago
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There definatly is something screwy about the electoral college. George Bush actually wasn't the first president to lose the popular vote but win the election.
From Infoplease.com:
Four Presidents won the popular vote but lost the presidency: Andrew Jackson won the popular vote but lost the election to John Quincy Adams (1824); Samuel J. Tilden won the popular vote but lost the election to Rutherford B. Hayes (1876); Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost the election to Benjamin Harrison (1888); Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George W. Bush (2000).
From Infoplease.com:
Four Presidents won the popular vote but lost the presidency: Andrew Jackson won the popular vote but lost the election to John Quincy Adams (1824); Samuel J. Tilden won the popular vote but lost the election to Rutherford B. Hayes (1876); Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost the election to Benjamin Harrison (1888); Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George W. Bush (2000).
interesting info there, i dont know about the others. i only remember the gore/bush one because of how i was actually around when it happened.
Post #66 · Posted at 2008-11-08 12:04:58pm 15.4 years ago
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Wow, so many screwjobs.
Post #67 · Posted at 2008-11-08 12:07:23pm 15.4 years ago
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I hope you guys know that the African American vote has been EXTREMELY democratic for the past few elections with 89% in 2004, 90% in 2000, and 83% in 1996. The 95% democratic African American vote isn't all that significant considering they only make up about 13% of votes, which is only a 1% increase from last year.
Sources are the exit polls.
EDIT:I was bored so I did some statistics over the past 4 elections. I got a z-score of 2.025 and the probability that z>2.025 is .02, which is significant at the .05 level but not the .01 level. Interpret that as you will; keep in mind though that the African American vote has been increasing pretty steadily over the years. Yes, I checked that too, and it does increase pretty linearly with a correlation of r=.9733 which is pretty damn linear. So, the African American vote went up as expected based on past data.
I miss AP stats
Sources are the exit polls.
EDIT:I was bored so I did some statistics over the past 4 elections. I got a z-score of 2.025 and the probability that z>2.025 is .02, which is significant at the .05 level but not the .01 level. Interpret that as you will; keep in mind though that the African American vote has been increasing pretty steadily over the years. Yes, I checked that too, and it does increase pretty linearly with a correlation of r=.9733 which is pretty damn linear. So, the African American vote went up as expected based on past data.
I miss AP stats