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Post #401 · Posted at 2024-04-17 05:11:10am 1.9 weeks ago

Offline Curilang
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Would you be able to add border and center guidelines and make them optional between p1 and p2?

I don't exactly know how to do that, I use GuideLines "by default" (SM config)
Lemon.

Post #402 · Posted at 2024-04-17 05:17:31pm 1.8 weeks ago

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I noticed a small issue. When the theme is enabled, Good's do not break combos, but in Outfox the notes don't disappear. The Outfox setting is HIDENOTE JUDGEMENT, which is TNS_W3 by default and needs to be set to TNS_W4 in order to display properly. This can be changed in settings, but since it's not in the theme's menus you have to disable the theme, change the setting, and then re-enable.

Post #403 · Posted at 2024-04-17 07:03:51pm 1.8 weeks ago

Offline Curilang
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Quote: broidmode
I noticed a small issue. When the theme is enabled, Good's do not break combos, but in Outfox the notes don't disappear. The Outfox setting is HIDENOTE JUDGEMENT, which is TNS_W3 by default and needs to be set to TNS_W4 in order to display properly. This can be changed in settings, but since it's not in the theme's menus you have to disable the theme, change the setting, and then re-enable.

Thanks for reporting this! We're going to check that.
Lemon.

Post #404 · Posted at 2024-04-26 06:50:23am 4.3 days ago

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I noticed a possible issue with this theme's results screen. If this is the A3 theme that yuisin uses in their videos, then the O.K. count and EX Score calculations may be incorrect.

Yuisin video for Starlight in the Snow CDP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P52y2xubdmQ
Results screen: https://i.ibb.co/7N6Rwvz/Capture.png

あお video for Starlight in the Snow CDP on a cab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzHq31M6ynE
Results screen: https://i.ibb.co/jLCKKsw/Capture2.png

The O.K. count in the theme counts the number of hold arrows exactly (26). The cab counts the lines that have one or more hold arrows starts (21) and adds the total shock arrows dodged (71) for a total of 92. The EX Score is off as well because it adds the O.K. judgements and steps by judgment. The yuisin video has a max EX Score of 1353, which is below the real total of 1551 in あお's video if you account for Perfects adding 2 instead of 3.

Post #405 · Posted at 2024-04-26 05:26:15pm 3.8 days ago

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Quote: Landpaddle
I noticed a possible issue with this theme's results screen. If this is the A3 theme that yuisin uses in their videos, then the O.K. count and EX Score calculations may be incorrect.

Yuisin video for Starlight in the Snow CDP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P52y2xubdmQ
Results screen: https://i.ibb.co/7N6Rwvz/Capture.png

あお video for Starlight in the Snow CDP on a cab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzHq31M6ynE
Results screen: https://i.ibb.co/jLCKKsw/Capture2.png

The O.K. count in the theme counts the number of hold arrows exactly (26). The cab counts the lines that have one or more hold arrows starts (21) and adds the total shock arrows dodged (71) for a total of 92. The EX Score is off as well because it adds the O.K. judgements and steps by judgment. The yuisin video has a max EX Score of 1353, which is below the real total of 1551 in あお's video if you account for Perfects adding 2 instead of 3.
I think this is a StepMania issue. Shock Arrows don't exist, they're mines and the noteskin makes them look like Shock Arrows. Mines don't add to combo or grant "O.K.!" like a Freeze does. Also, I'm like 99% sure a jump Freeze in DDR is one "O.K.!" but in StepMania it's two. So you will see a lot of inconsistency from DDR to StepMania around the "O.K.!" judgment and I don't think there is much to be done, a custom scoring.lua file can only do so much and this really boils down to StepMania being a different game being themed to look as much like DDR as possible.
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Post #406 · Posted at 2024-04-26 08:50:00pm 3.7 days ago

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Quote: n00b_saib0t
I think this is a StepMania issue.

Not exactly, StepMania doesn't have Mines Counts to Judgements so, I think mines in StepMania with ShockArrows NoteSkins are just for fun.
Lemon.

Post #407 · Posted at 2024-04-26 08:53:29pm 3.7 days ago

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Quote: n00b_saib0t
I think this is a StepMania issue.

Not exactly, StepMania doesn't have Mines Counts to Judgements so, I think mines in StepMania with ShockArrows NoteSkins are just for fun.
That's exactly what I just described, though. How is that not a StepMania issue? You can't fix that in the theme, so it's a difference between StepMania and DDR.
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